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The result of the vote was announced
as above recorded.

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The SPEAKER pro .tempore (Mr.

MoNuLTy). Will the gentleman from
Texas [Mr. BONInLA] kindly come for-.
ward and lead the House in the Pledge

of Allegiance to our flag.
Mr. BONLA- led the Pledge of Allegiance as follows:

I pledge allegiance to the Flig of the
United States of America, and to the Republ]o for which it stands, one nation under God.
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all

MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE
A message from the Senate by Mr.
Hallen, one of its clerks, announced
that the Senate had passed without
amendment a bill of the House of the
following title:
H.R. 1723. An act to authorize the establishment of a program under which employes" of the Central Intelligence Agency may
be offered separation pay to separate from

service voluntarily to avoid or minlmize the
need for involuntary separations due to
downsizing, reorganiution, transfer of func-

tion, or other similar action, and for other
parposes.

TOUGH CHOICES
(Mr. FAZIO asked and was given permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend his re-

marks.)

Mr. FAZIO. Mr. Speaker, leadership
is about making tough choices. The
eyes of the Nation are on the House of
Representatives today to see if the
change that people demanded last fall
is actually going to take place. When
the President came to office just 4
months ago the deficit had been out of
control for 12 long years. In less than a
month the President presented this
Congress and the American people with
a $500 billion deficit reduction plan, the

May 27, 1993

largest of its kind In the history of our giving meaning to all those speeches
country.
about dealing with the deficlt, and conThe President's plan has over 200 spe- fidence in this institution 'is to deal
cific spending cuts, including $100 bil-. -with the President's plan and to vote
lion reduction in entitlements. The for it,: and once again bring discipline
Congress has added an additional $63 to our fiscal affars.
billion in spending cuts., Three out of
four new tax dollars come from the
richest 6 percent of our Nation's peo-FEAR OF DAWN
ple.
:
(Mr.
EVERETT
asked and was given
It is time for us to give this new
to address .the House for 1
President a chance to get our country permission
out of the ditch and back on -the road minute and to revise and extend his reto a recovery that promises new jobs marks.)
Mr. EVERETT. Mr. Speaker, most
and economic growth.
Give our new President the oppor- Americans thought the days of smoketunity to lead this country back from filled rooms and closed-door, backroom
the deficits of the last decade. He de- deals were a part of our political history. We were to be'living In a time of
serves our help.
political openness 'and inclusion--an-

HOLLYWOOD MAKEUP JOB CANNOT

HIDE TAX INCREASE
(Mr. HASTERT asked and was given
permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)

end to gridlock. This was to be the new

covenant by which all bur politicians
would live.
:
- Unfortunately,. that is not the case.
The Democrats still remain in' dark-

ness, striking bargains and making

deals behind the 'closed doors of the
Mr. HASTERT. Mr. Speaker, appar- Ways and Means Committee.
Fearing the certain storm 'of protest
ently President Clinton's handlers have
from hard-working taxpayers, Demofinally located their makeup person.
Once again, President Clinton has crats turned out the lights on the ugly
tried to change the face of the largest process of raising taxes when the shut
tax increase in American history with out. Republicans by voting against
something called voluntary spending, every Republican proposal with a party
caps In other words, instead of this line vote.
Mr. Speaker, it is time to help Bill
Congress acting, we are going to simply ask the bureaucrats to please not Clinton keep his campaign promises by
spend as much of our money. Good substituting his. tax increases on the
working poor with more spending cuts.
luck.
Mr. Speaker, for President Clinton to To do this, we needed an open rule on
tell the American people he is getting reconciliation. To do this, we needed
our financial house in order when his some sunshine allowed in on the procbudget plan would add more than 32 ess. The losers of Bill Clinton's broken
trillion to the national debt should be
enough to make him blush, 'even covenant, Mr. Speaker, will be hardthrough, the best Hollywood makeup working taxpayers. And, I think those
taxpayers will remember who voted for
job.
higher taxes and who voted against the
largest tax Increase in this Nation's
history.
A MOMENT OF TRUTH
(Mr. TORRICELLI asked and was
given permission to address the House
BILL CLINTON MADE THE TOUGH
for 1 minute and to revise and extend
CHOICES
his remarks.)
(Mr. VISCLOSKY asked and was
Mr. TORRICELLI.
Mr. Speaker, for a
decade we have talked about the Fed- given permission to address the House
eral deficit, we have'debated the Fed- for 1 minute and to revise and extend
eral deficit, we have done everything his remarks.)
Mr. VISCLOSKY. Mr. Speaker, when
but deal with the Federal deficit.
Today Is a moment of truth for this In- Ronald Reagan was sworn into office,
stitution. for this Congress, for this the national debt was $908 billion.
country, because courage Is not meas- When George Bush left office the naured in words. It Is a question of deeds. tional debt had exploded to $4 trillion.
Bill Clinton was elected to change
Either all those speeches and all
those press releases about the deficit this Republican policy of let the kids
meant something, or they did not. pay.
President Clinton has met the chalToday we are going to find out. We are
about to discover whether the prof- lenge and has presented the House with
ligate 1980's were simply an aberration, a historic opportunity to attack the
a time of loss of fiscal discipline, or a deficit through reduced spending.
That is why those who produce milk
permanent change in the ability of this
country and this Congress to govern will be paid $320 million less during the
next 5 years.
ourselves.
That is why tobacco growers will be
0 1130
assessed more in the future.
The only means of restoring conThat is why military retirees will
fidence in this Congress, giving dis- have their COLA's delayed by 4
cipline again to our fiscal affairs, and months

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'Thatis why hospitals and physitcans that guarantees tax increases go for ' bers and moved spending from one fie-.

DMay 27,993

will have their piyments -under Medicare frozen for the.next 2 y.ears.
And that is ,why the Treasury Postal
Subcommttee.on Appropriatlons yeterday voted to eliminate all funding
for two agencies of Government.
The decisions about these spending
cuts weren't easy. These, spending cuts
aren't popular. Butthese spending cuts
need to be made.
Bill Clinton has made the tough
spending choices. Today we must join
him.

LARGEST TAX INCREASE IN
AMERICAN HISTORY
(Mr. KIM asked and was given per-.
mission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. KIM. Mr. Speaker, I will be voting today against the budget bill, because it is the largest tax increase In
American history.
Every sector of society is hit and hit
hard.
This new tax will cost about S226 per
month for millions of retirees on fixed
Incomes. This is a tremendous burden.
Rather than enjoy their retirement,
these, senior citizens are. being forced
into the poorhouse. Under this bill, 85,
percent of Social Security benefits will
be taxed to raise $32 billion to pay for
waste and gross flscal mismanagement
by this Government.
This is outrageous. Our senior citizens did not create this financial mess.
They have been working hard all their
lives contributing revenue.
I urge my-colleagues to vote against
this dangerous tax bill.
TODAY IS tIHE DAY THE' RUBBER
MEETS THE ROAD
(Mr. WISE asked and was given permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. WISE. Mr. Speaker, today is the
day where the rubber meets the road.
It decides whether or not this country
has an economic plan or continues economic drift. It is about deficit reduction, real deficit reduction and real
economic growth, a bill that, after you
strip all of the hoopla out of it, has $250
billion In cuts, more dollars in cuts
than tax increases.
It is a bill, yes, about tax increases
and two-thirds of those falling on those
making over S200,000. And yes, there is
a Btu tax, and If you are making somewhere around S30,000 to $40,000, it will
amount, after 3 years, to about 50 cents
a day. about the price of a cup of coffee. And yes, there are taxes that affect
our industries, but, for instance, in aluminum and coal and natural gas and
the barge fees, we were able to get
those significantly adjusted.
Real spending cuts, Mr. Speaker, a
fair tax burden basically on the upper
incomes, a deficit reduction account

deficit reduction, not for new spending., cal year to: another,' one gimmick after
It is time, Mr. Speaker, to get this another, and the deficit got larger and
economy moving and to pass this'bill. larger. -'
.
... ,.
.-.
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:... , '~People-inithis country.sald what 'they.
wanted was' a-change-. And President
NEED FOR STRONGER TRUCK-Clinton ha'presented-us' with an economic plan to provide for that change.
LOAD RESTRAINT REGULATIONS,
(Mr. QUINN asked and was given'per- ' That- change since the election has
mission to address the, House for 1. brought about the lowest interest rates
minute and to revise and extend his re- In the last 20 years in' this country.
marks.)
Those low Interest rates 'for'the first
Mr. QUINN. Mr. Speaker, I rise today time' have allowed' people to buy a
not to talk about taxes or spending, al- home,- to refinance an .existing. home,
though these are very important is- to better be able to afford their chilsues.
dren's education, to buy. an automobile.
Instead, I rise to speak about Issues and put an -autoworker back to' work.
that are even more important, the is- That is' real. change ' not -symbolic
sues of life and death.
change, not the rhetoric that we have
.There is a dangerous problem on our had over the last 12 years as the RepubNation's -highways, a problem. that licans have continued 'to talk: about
risks peoples' lives, a problem that cost lower deficits but only- sent us larger
four people their lives in Buffalo, NY, and larger deficits. ."
last year.
.
.
'Today the numbers are real. The deftOn October 5, 1992, during the mor-. cit reduction es real and the benefit to
ing rush hour, a flatbed trailer truck, the American people is real:
traveling on the New York State
It's showtlme:
.
' '
Thruway, struck the median' divider, '
.
. '
snapping the chains which secured its
load of four giant coils of steel. ;
' .1140
The steel coils-weighing 20 tons
HANG TOGETHER
each-flew off the .trailer, crushing
(Ms. PRYCE. of Ohio asked and was
three cars, killing four people:..
Since that tragedy last October, 7 given permlssion-to address the House
months ago, heavy metal coils have for 1 minute and to.revise and extend
fallen off trucks on three other occa- her remarks.) ..
Ms. PRYCE of Ohio.' Mr. Speaker,
stons in western New York, and statis-tics indicate similar problems are oc- President Clinton:is urging his' Demo'
cratic 'colleagues to unite-in voting for
curring across the country.
Luckily, no one else has been hurt or the largest tax Increase in history.
killed.
- He uses the old Ben Franklln'adage:
We must hang together, or we will all
But will we be so lucky next time?
Before another person Is -killed,' we hang separately.
need to Improve the way truckers are
Actually, Mr. Speaker, If your Demorequired to secure their loads; we need crat colleagues 'hang together to pass
to protect motorists on our highways.
the largest tax increase in history,
I will go to the Federal Highway Ad- they will certainly hang separately in
ministration to ask for stronger load the next election.
restraint regulations.
Face it, my friends.' The American
Mr. SHrUSTER, the ranking member on people do not want to pay any more
the Public Works and Transportation taxes. They feel they pay enough taxes,
Committee, has offered to help.
and they are right. We need to cut
And. Mr. Speaker, I ask for the help spending first.
of all my colleagues, so that we can
The votes we take today will not be
avoid another deadly tragedy on our soon forgotten by the American voters,
highways.
Both votes on the rule and on final passage will lead to more taxes, higher inflation, and slower economic growth.
IT'S SHOWTIME
Mr. Speaker, there is no reason to
(Mr. MILLER of California asked and hang with the President. He is dead
was given permission to address the wrong. Cut spending first.
House for 1 minute and to-revise and
extend his remarks.)
Mr. MILLER of California. Mr. LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE, NOT THE
LOBBYISTS
Speaker, as they said in the movie,
(Mrs. MEEK asked and was given per"Chorus Line," it's showtime. It is
showtime for the Congress of the Unit- mission to address the House for 1
ed States, for the President of the minute and to revise and extend her reUnited States, and for the people of the marks.)
United States.
Mrs. MEEK. Mr. Speaker, on TuesToday we will determine whether or day, the results of the latest consumer
not we fully understand what the confidence poll were released, and I
American people said to us In Novem- was not surprised. The American peober, and that is that they no longer ple see the gridlock in Washington and
wanted a President who talked about know that the economy is in trouble.
balanced budgets and then sent phony
The economic mess was created over
budgets to the Hill. No longer did they the last 12 years and it will not be corwant a Congress that cooked the num- rected without causing some pain.

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CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE

May.21, 1993

There are games being played with the · pickage, a rightwing group is targeting Republicans. want; you:.to believe that
lives of the people we were sent to. rep- some of us with -a campaign of distor- this plan Is only about the greatest tax
in this ountry '.' .
-increase
resent. It is the vain hope of some to tions. destroy President Clinton so that they'-. , The group- is called Cltisens for a : But guess what thisPlanlaslrlo the
Economy, and it is running ads greatest deficit.reduction. plzi thatwe
- 'Sound
can regain.the White House. '
. have ever seen in history. They do Jot
- They are willing- to destroy'the eeo- in my district opposing the Btu tax..
PeopleAn my State know this group want you tolnow about tht.: nomio lives of millions of Americans in
But guess -what", that is what It. is,
well, because 2 years ago It bankrolled
their lust for power.
Americans thought that the decade a term limit initiative that was so ex-, and that is what I .amgoing to'vote on
today. Mr. 'Speaker,: and- we are going
of greed had been ended last November, - treme the voters rejected It.
Most of its money comes from. the ,to pass the plan.
but they were' wrong. The purveyors of'
_
greed have counterattacked 'and are Koch brothers, two of the world's richwilling to bring down the American. est men, who have a big interest inANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER
economy to preserve their ill gotten guess what-big oil.
PRO TEMPORE
The chairman of Citizens for a Sound
.
gains.
The SPEAKER pro tempore .(Mr.
We will-never know how many tens of Economy is Jim Miller, who- doubled
millions of dollars are being spent to the national debt when he was Ronald McNuLTY). The Chair would remind our
guests in the gallery: that we are dedefeat the President's prograin. We Reagan's budgetdlrector.
Taking advice on deficit reduction lighted to have you with us, but you
have heard that advertisements have
been'prepared to flow from Washington from Jim Miller and the Koch brothers are to refrain from responding either
to certain congressional districts. The is like taking tax advice from Leona positively or negatively to statements
madeby Members ol the foor.
names of the front groups will sound Helmsley.'
I do not like the Btu tax, and neither
like Ice cream and apple pie, but the,
money comes from the purveyors of do a lot of my constituents. We would
PENDINGFIRST
.CUT
greed. Their identities will be hidden not need that tax If-Jim Miller and his
and their financial interests will never .friends had done their jobs when they
were in charge.
reach the light of day.
But now we can either do nothing permission to address the House for 1
IS it any wonder that the American
. and let the deficit get worse, or we can minute and to revise and extend his reconsumer has lost confidence?
marks.)
I will stand up for the American start fixing It.
Mr DUNCAN. Mr. Speaker. today we
I came to Congress to fix the mesas
-consumer. I will oppose the purveyors
- And I do not need billionaire special will.vote on the largesttax Increase in
of greed and their army of mercenaries.
Anerlcan history. The Congressional
I will vote "for the President's pro- interests telling me how to do that.
Budget Office, .hich is controlled by
gram. I will vote for the American peothese ~tax
mocr,
estimates
the
pie and against the purveyors of greed.
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$1,200'per
(Mr. DOOLITL-E asked and was
Anyone who thinks only the wealthy
TRAVEL AND TAXES
given permission to address the Housee
(Mr. LINDER asked and was given for 1 minute and to revise and extend will pay Is living in a dream world.
Taxes always come back to the middle
permission to address the House for 1 his remarks.)
and lower middle income people.
yes
Speaker.
Mr.
DOOLI'ILE.
reMr.
his
minute and to revise and extend
The President said- during his camIt's showtime: massive tax increases on
marks.)
Mr. LINDER. Mr. Speaker,' well, It- senior citizens and-on the middle class; paign that he was going to raise taxes
looks like Travelgate has become the an energy tax that cost 600,000 jobs; only on those making over $200,000 a
big story on the Nation's headlines. new Federal social welfare spending ,year. The truth is these taxes are going
President Clinton has decided to have programs; $1 trillion In additional cu- to hit everybody regardless of income,
his chief of staff Investigate what real- mulative debt; gimmicks, glitz, and let because prices will go up ,on.every-.
thing.
the good times roll.
ly happened.
A newscaster for channel 6 here this
Yes, It's showtime.
I wish the White House would spend
morning said the so-called midnight
more time investigating what their tax
compromise from last night is really
package will do to American families.
LET US PASS THE PLAN
just a face-saving measure for conservThey should examine how the Btu tax
will hit poor and middle class families
(Mr. TUCKER asked and was given ative Democrats. He said it is really
the hardest.
permission to address the House for 1 meaningless. He said no one knows
They should reconsider how their So- minute and to revise and extend his re- what the proposed spending targets
really mean. It is a charade, a hoax.
cial Security tax will hurt senior citi- marks.)
zens. They should ask themselves why
Mr. TUCKERMr. Speaker, yes, It is The President's package has no spendthey haven't listened to American pub- showtime, and guess who gave us the ing cuts, and, in fact, increases spendoriginal showtime. Well, let us see, ing during the first 2 years.
lic opinion, and cut spending first.
The cuts in years 4 and 5 will never
When the President gets his travel what Hollywood actor ascended to the
see the light of day until and unless
office back together, he should con- Presidency?
sider a trip to middle America. There,
I think It was the Republican Party more conservatives are elected to the
the people will tell him to cut spending that'was the original creator of show- Congress.
People in my district, Democrats,
time in the 1980's. That is right, Mr.
first.
I urge my colleagues to vote against Speaker, they showed us how the rich Republicans, and Independents, are
the reconciliation rule and the final could get richer and the poor could get saying cut spending flrst.
bill. We do not need more taxes or poorer. But guess what, now the real
showtime has got to come to bear, and
more spending.
A HISTORIC CHANGE
that Is the time we find that the rich
(Mr. SLATTERY asked and was given
are going to have to ante up, because
JUST SAY NO TO SPECIAL
in this plan, Mr. Speaker, 66 percent of permission to address the House for I
INTERESTS
all the taxes are on those people mak- minute and to revise and extend his re(Mr. KREIDLER asked and was given ing $200,000 a year or more, 75 percent marks.)
Mr. SLATTERY. Mr. Speaker, nearly
permission to address the House for 1 of all new revenues are going to go on
minute and to revise and extend his re- those persons making $100,000 a year or 50 cents of every dollar that the American taxpayers send to Washington is
more.
marks.)
It is showtime, all right, and It is spent on entitlement programs, and
Mr. KREIDLER. Mr. Speaker, as we
prepare to vote on the deficit reduction time to fish or cut bait, because the anyone who knows anything about the

May 27, -1993

'CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE.

arithmetic of our budget. understands'
that we are not going to solve our deftclt problem until we get these entitlement programs under control.
This part of our deficit has been on
autopilot for 20 years,- and last night,
about 1 o'clock in .the morning,'. we
were able to come to a very difficult
compromise on an effort to cap entitlement spending for the first time in our
Nation's -history.
I believe this to be a historic change
in our budget process. Our colleagues,
the gentleman from Minnesota [Mr.
PENNY], and the gentleman from Texas
[Mr. STDOLIm], and the gentleman'
from South Carolina [Mr. SPRATr], deserve a lot of credit for negotiating the
toughest entitlement cap that we can
possibly get through this Congress.
I think this particular provision in
the package is definitely worthy of ev-.
eryone's support, and I urge my colleagues to support the reconciliation
package today.
Please, look at the entitlement cap
and understand what a historic change
this is. We are taking entitlements off
of autopilot, and it is worthy of our
support..

. iMr' BISHOP. Mr. Speaker, the Budg:et Reconciliation Act is- about hard
choices. It's-hard to ignore our sagging
economy and-the Federal deficit. It's
also hard.to leave our children with littie or no means to accessible, affordable health care, and hundreds of thousands of Americans without jobs. And
it's hard to support an energy tax that
would- raise production costs on our
farmers, and we've cut the burden in
half by exempting on-farm use of gasoline and diesel from the energy tax.
But it's time to face the hard facts. We
must put American back to work.
IWe cannot continue to wait, and
hope, that change will come. This plan
is the largest deflcit-reduction package
in the history of the Republic. It reduoes our Federal deficit by $496 billion
over the next 5 years. It helps fund Jobs
programs and job training for our citizens, and assumes full funding for Head
Start, a- very important educational
program for.our children. And it does
out spending.
There is no easy way out, Mr. Speaker. It's time to make the tough decisions. Let's jumpstart our economy
and let's make the right choice by voting. for the Budget Reconciliation Act.

BUDGET RECONCILIATION A HARD
SELL
(Mr. POMBO asked and was given
'permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. POMB0.' Mr. Speaker, as a farmer, I know that the budget reconciliation is going to be hard to sell, especially to our Nation's-farmers.
The plain. simple truth is that the
budget reconciliation cuts nearly $3
billion from farm programs while, at
the same time, increases and expands
the Food Stamp Program by over $7
billion. Those are the facts that--the
supporters of this budget need to explain.
For me, it is easy. I voted against the
budget. I wanted to see that needed
cuts were made, but made fairly, rather than by heaping the burden even
higher on farmers.
For my Democrat colleagues, however, I can only wish you luck. I want
to see you go and visit a farmer in your
district, put your foot up on the bumper of his truck, and tell him why the
money being out from crop insurance is
better spent by expanding the Food
Stamp Program. Or explain to him the
equity of the Btu or estate taxes. I
would like to be there when you try.
But let me give you a word of warning:
Do not do it near a running combine.

T- E CLINTON TAX PLAN
(Mr. GOODLATTE asked and was
given permission to address the House
for 1 minute and to revise and extend
his remarks.)
:Mr: GOODLATTE.
Mr. Speaker,
today is the day we answer a fundamental question: Are American famlies and businesses undertaxed? Or.
does the Federal Government just
spend too much? I think we all know
the answer to this question.
Day after day, I talk to folks across
my Sixth District of Virginia and they
tell me how the tax burden is eating
into their already tight family budgets.
A vote for President Clinton's S360 billion tax boondoggle is a slap in the face
to every one of these families. They
work hard to earn a living, to buy the
groceries, pay for new school clothes
for the kids, and cover the insurance
payments and mortgage. They deserve
better.
I ask each Member of the House to
ask himself or herself a question: Will
our Nation be better off in 4 years if we
pass these huge new tax increases?
I heard the President calling this a
deficit-reduction tax increase. That's
like a spring snowstorm. You can see it
coming down, but it just does not
stick. This money that President Cllnton is trying to dig out of the pockets
of America's families and businesses
will be wasted on expensive new GovO 1150
ernment pork-barrel programs which
do nothing more than provide jobs for
SUPPORTING THE
Washington, DC, bureaucrats. The
RECONCILIATION ACT
President likes to create a Government
(Mr. BISHOP asked and was given program to solve every problem but as
permission to address the House for 1 former President Reagan put It so well.
minute and to revise and extend his re- "Government does not solve problems.
marks.)
It subsidizes them."

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:PASS THE RECONCILIATION 'BTIL

:(Mr. RICHARDSON as"ednd wasn
given permission to address the House
for-l minute and'to reviue and-extend
his remarks.)
-

Mr.. RICHARDSON.-Mr.Speaker, this

is the biggest vote of. the decade. Are
we going to vote simply as Democrats
or Republicans, or as' Americans wanting to give the President a chance to
govern?

This economic plan has pain for ev-.

eryone. There are hundreds of reasons
to vote against it. But fundamentally
it is not about spending cuts or deficit
reduction; it is about whether we as a.
nation can govern and eliminate the
gridlock of the last 12 years.
Mr. Speaker, this is It. Today we will
vote on and pass the President's reconciliation bill-a bill that cuts the
deficit, restores faith and fairness in
Government, and sets a positive oourse
for this country.
Let me-restate some of the facts:
This plan is the most aggressive deftclt-cutting plan we have ever seen. -It
cuts:the deficit by $500 billion over 5
years.
This plan is fair-the heaviest burden
is shouldered by': those' who can and
should pay-the. wealthlest of Americans.:In fact, the vast Fmajority of the
tax increase-will be paid by those making over $200,000 per year..'

This plan reminds us of the reason

America voted for Bill Clinton. It calls
for shared sacrifice and is based on
honesty-not the smoke and mirrors of
the last 12 yearsa Most of all, it demonstrates the. courage needed to make
the tough cuts.
Mr. Speaker, this is our moment of
truth, our tlme to stand and deliver for
the American people. Today America
will see-gridlock is dead.
THE BILL CLINTON TAX BILL: GiVING CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS
DUE
(Mr. BONILLA asked and was given
permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Speaker, Americans naturally take pride in what they
make. When Henry Ford started his car
company he named it after himself.
When a man named Amos perfected his
cookie recipe, he named his treat after
himself, "Famous Amos."
Hard-working people all over this
great country take pride in their work
and want their names on it. Craftsmen
and artists autograph their creations.
Lawmakers put their names on bills. If
you take pride in your work you should
take credit.
And If the President takes pride in
his work he should put his name on his
creation. If his tax proposal passes It
should be passed on as the Bill Clinton
tax. So, when struggling families open
their utility bill they can see clearly
the Bill Clinton energy tax added to
the statement.

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:CONGRESSIONAL RECORD.-HOUSE
Or'when that elderly.couple receives ad I' think they. understand now-the'
a smaller Social Security check, they way to solve the problem of the deficits
will know that it was the Bill Clinton and get to a balanced budget is to cut

.Socal

Security. tax that will

force

;
them to'do With less. - -.
If the President truly believes in his'proposals he should' proudly name the
taxes after himself. Even Dr. Frankenstein had his monster.
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IT'S ABOUT JOBS, CONGRESS, NOT

the spending, not increase the taxes

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THE BUDGET RESOLUTION

:;May 27, 1993
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IN SUPPORT OF PRESIDENT'S

-DEFICTREDUCTION

PACKAGE

(Ms: MCKINNEY asked and was given
permission t addressthe House for 1
minute and to revise and extend her re-

' ' .'.
(Mr.
'
CLYBURN -asked- and was given 'marks.)'
permieaionto address the House for 1 - Ms. McKINNEY. Mr. Speaker, I 'lee
minute and to revise and extend his re- In support' of this -deficit reduction
package.' This package addresses the
marks.)
i-

Mr. CLYBURN. Mr. Speaker, today,

twin deficits that plague the'people of

-A3BO'UT T.AES
'Mr. Spe~aker.we will vote on the Presi- .Georgia's 11th Congressional District..
(Mr. TRAFICANT asked and 'was dent's 1994 budget.
This package reduces the budget defiThe-action we take today will have a cit that threatens the future of- our
given permission to address the House
for 1 minute and to revise and extend resounding effect on the lives of the children. Children are especially spared
American people regardless of the. out- cuts In entitlement spending. Spending
his remarks.)
'Mr.. TRAFICANT. Mr. Speaker, an-- come.
i-s shifted to essential programs for
other 6-year plan for America, new - -The passage of this budget will begin children and families, groups that lost
record taxes on American workers and a' road toward economic stability, ground during the last 12 years. Full
companies.
Meanwhile, -healthier and better nourished chil- "funding of Head Start, full funding of
American
American subsidiaries overseas once dren, and more meaningful job oppor- the Mickey Leland Hunger Prevention
again escape the Tax Code. Now figure tunltles, to name Just a-few of its bene- Act, full funding of WIC, full funding of
this out: If you sIf y in.America you fits. '
A
childhood immuniuztions.
The earned income tax credit assures
are taxed; 'If you move overseas, you - For the last week or so the word en-

get tax breaks. '
·"
I am opposed to this madness.
In addition, we are going to open up
the borders with Mexico-wow. I pre-

titlement has been brandished about as that this country's children of working
though it were some Fascist buzz word parents will not be' raised in-poverty.
to warn those in support of the .pro- Georgia families received a total of
grams that our lives would be held in 425 million from the earned'income

bondage If those services were not
capped.
Well, for me, the world entitlement
means to enable, qualify, and allow.
The provisions in'this budget will enable Americans to gain more control of
their lives.President's
It . will qualify them for resources
_needed to become more productive citzens.
It will Instill n our people dignity
THE LARG-EST TAX INCREASE IN
HISTORY, AND NO AMENDMENTS and pride in a government that works
lfor them and not against them.
~A~Er
Mo
oLZOD
And that, Mr. Speaker, is something
-(Mr. MoCOLLUM asked and was
given permission to address the House to which we all are entitled, and Presifor 1 minute and to revise and extend dent Clinton's budget will start that
his remarks.)
process.
Mr. MoCOLLUM. Mr. Speaker, early
this morning the Democrat leadership
REBELLION IS A GOOD THING
exhibited the arrogance of power which
makes congressional term limits such
(Mr. BAKER of California asked and
a compelling cause. They decided to was given permission to address the
make a deal In order to pass the largest House for 1 minute and to revise and
tax increase in history, and the deal extend his remarks.)
Mr. BAKER of California. Mr. Speakwas over a rule that will come out here
today that will not allow us to offer er, President Clinton admires Thomas
amendments or even their Members to Jefferson. Well, Jefferson said "a little
offer amendments that would alter the 'rebellion nd'v and then is a good
face of the energy tax or remove it, et thing." And today, it's an especially
cetera Only one substitute is allowed; good thing for the American taxpayers.
Because right now, President Clinton
ours granted by only one. I think that
kind of arrogance is going to get to has a rebellion on his hands. Not just
them. The fact of the matter is that we Republicans, but members of his own
are dealing with not only the largest Democrat Party, are saying the liberal
-tax increase in history but we are deal- Clinton program of tax and spend is uning with the fact that this bill out here popular among the people and a recipe
today will not have any reductions in for economic disaster in this country.
spending for the first 2 years. And when The energy tax will cost our recovering
we get down the pike, assuming that it economy 500,000 jobs; the tax on Social
works-and I do not believe the math Security benefits will bring pain to
will work-assuming it does, at the end America's seniors; the income tax bill
of 5 years we will have added $1 trillion will steal capital needed to create jobs
to the debt, from $4.5 trillion to $5.5 and expand business.
A rebellion against the Clinton protrillion, and still have $200 billion in
deficits; nowhere near a balanced budg- gram of tax increases and new spending
et.
is a good thing, Mr. Speaker. It is a
I submit, my colleagues, what the good thing for the country and good for
American people will understand more the American taxpayer.
Cut spending first.
after the pain than they do even nowdict jobs and investment going to Mexico like Olympic-sprinters. In return,
we will get a used Ford pickup, 2 tons
of heroin, and 3 baseball players, to be
..
named later.
I am voting "no," -dammit; It is
about jobs, Congress, not about taxes.
The American people are taxed-off.

tax credit last year.-We expect to recelve an-,additional S2
million from
the expanded earned income tax credit.
- ' The budget is not jut -'political document. It 1i also a-moral statement of
our national priorities.
budget
s that government should no longer serve the
needs of a few of us at the expense of
.Clinton's
Mr. Spthe
of usrest
Mbudget is good and it is good for Geor
ga. It is good for this country.
NO TRUST AND CONFENCE IN
AND CONFIDENCE IN
(Mr. ROTH asked and.was given permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. ROTH. Mr. Speaker, around the
country people are asking why is the
Clinton administration such a disaster
after only 130 days. His negatives are
higher than his positives.
Well, as a previous speaker said, everyone looks at Thomas Jefferson in
the Clinton administration. Thomas
Jefferson said that a President can
only be successful If the people have
trust and confidence in him.
Well, here is what President Clinton
said about Social Security, which is
being taxed in this bill today, 9½ million Social Security recipients are
being taxed to the tune of 329 billion.
Here is what Clinton said in September of last year:
We are not going to fool with Social Security. It is sound and I am going to keep It
that way. You can take it to the bank.
That was his quote.
Today we are voting on a $29 billion
tax on senior citizens.
You see, there is no trust and confidence. Another broken campaign
promise.

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CCONGRESSIONAL RECORD--HOUSE

You cannot go around and tell people
whatever they want to hear and then
when you are In office do whatever you
'feel like.and break every promise. That
in why this country is in trouble and
that is why the Clinton administration
is in trouble. There is no trust and oonfidence in this administration, and
rightly so.
GIVE THE PRESIDENT A CHANCE
(Mr. GLICKMAN asked and was given
permission to address the House for'l
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)

Mr. GLICKMAN. Mr. Speaker, in 1981

as a third term Member of Congress, I
listened to -Ronald Reagan ask the
American people and this Congress to
give him a chance, to give his program,
which. I might add was very complicated and very controverslal, a
chance. I voted for his tax reduction
bill. I was one of about 50 Democratic

Members of Congress who- voted for
Reagan's tax bill, not because It was

perfect; but because It offered a chance
and he, the new President asked for it.
Now our new President has asked us

for the same chance, a chanoe to re-

duoe the deficit dramatically and to do
it with fairness, equity, growth, and
jobs.
Yes, It is controversial. Yes, It may
have some problems with it, as did the
Reagan program, but he has asked for
our help. He has asked us to give him
a chance.
Americans do not like excessive partisanahip. I am sorry that no Republlcan in the House, like nearly 50
Democrats in 1981, but not one Republiean chooses to give our President the
same chance that I and the nearly onefifth of the Democrats of the House did
for President Reagan in 1981.
Mr. Speaker, I believe Americans are
fair and I believe that today they will
applaud our efforts to give Bill Clinton
a chance to make America a better
place.
THE PRESIDENT'S TAX DEAL
(Mr. SAM JOHNSON of Texas asked
and was given permission to address
the House for 1 minute and to revise
and extend his remarks.)
Mr. SAM JOHNSON of Texas. Mr.
Speaker, when the American people got
up this morning, they turned on the
news to hear that the President had finally made a -'deal" with.the Congress
on his middle-class tax increase.
The American people need to know
that this deal was struck at 4 a m. this
morning behind closed doors, and the
only deal made was how big the tax increase is going to be on working Americans.
This is not a good deal for American
taxpayers. It Is a raw deal.
It is still 1322 billion of tax increases
over 6 years with no real deficit reduotion.
It contains 20 times tax increases as
spending cuts In the first year, and six

times tax increase. over spending cuts,
over the next 6-yes.
.the
Where is the fiscal responsibility
that Mr. 'Clinton claimed to have dur-.
ing his campaign? Mr; Speaker, I hope the people across
this Nation watching right now will
call their Representatives in Washing-'
ton and tell them to vote no on this
middle-of-the-night thievery.
EXCELLETNCE IN EDUCATION IN
KENTUCKY
(Mr. MAZZOLI asked and was given
permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. MAZZOLL Mr. Speaker, there
are many good-faith differences among
and between us on how best to restore
America's economico health and these
will be debated today, but there is no
difference among us or between us on
revering nd honoring States and localities and schools which distinguish
themselves in education programs andwhich achieve excellence in those programs.
In a few moments I will be joining
Louisville Mayor Jerry Abramson and
county judge executive of Jefferson
County, David Armstrong, at ceremonies in which the city of Louisville
and the' county of Jefferson will be
jointly, honored as a community of excellence In education.
On tomorrow the Federal Department of Education will announce that
six Kentucky schools, including two
from my district, St. Xavier High
School, my alma mater, and Assumption Academy, will be designated as
blue ribbon schools, schools of high
achievement in education.
Mr. Speaker, in Kentucky, in Lounisville, in Jefferson County, education is
important. Education is put on a high
pedestal, and education in our communities is marked by excellence.

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the community as a whole who made
Tarpon Springs war memorial possible. In this way we might always remember how blessed we are in the modern world to live in a free society, nor
forget that this blessing is due' to the
sacrifices of our friends, relatives,
neighbors, and countrymen who served
us-all when duty called.
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STOCK MARKET SUPPORTS

DEFICIT -REDUCTION
(Mr. KOPETSKI asked and was given
permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. KOPETSKI. Mr. Speaker, the
number one problem facing the United
States today is the Federal deficit, $4
trillion, $3 trillion of which has grown
in the last 12 years under the Republclan'rule in the White House.
This Is a tough political vote today,
no doubt about It, but I do not understand why you folks do not admit there
is S20 billion of spending cuts. Yes, there are tax increases there,
and we asked the wealthiest in this
country to pay a little bit more. We
asked the -top corporations in this
country to pay a little bit more.
Republicans like to say this is bad
for business. On the eve of this vote,
the stock market -had Its greatest
record level in the history of this country. You want good evidence of how
good this is for business? Ask the stock
market. Do not ask the self-proclalmed
business experts on the Republican side
of the aisle. Ask those who are involved with the economy at the stock
market. Record highs at the:stock
market on the eve of this vote.
Right now the market is up. The
market is up and that is because they
understand this is a true deficit reduotion package which means lower interest rates for this country, which will
put money into the pockets of every
business person, money into the pockTARPON SPRINGS WAR MEMORIAL ets of every consumer in this Nation,
(Mr. BILIRAKIS asked and was given record highs at the stock market. That
permission to address the House for 1 is the best evidence that this is good
minute and to revise and extend his re- -for business in America
marks.)
Mr. BILIRAIS. Mr. Speaker, several
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years ago, two Vietnam veterans, RobWHAT WAS BILL THINKING?
ert Renneke and Dr. Fred Roever, in
my district proposed building a memo(Mr. INHOFE asked and was given
rial to honor those killed, or-yet miss- permission to address the House for 1
ing in action, who hailed from the local minute and to revise and extend his rearea Like so many other memorial marks.)
projects. this one was ridiculed by
Mr. INHOFE. Mr. Speaker, in the last
some who contended it was a waste of 2 weeks, we have all asked ourselves
time and money. However, I am pleased the question, "What was Bill thinkto say that the monument's supporters ing?", when we read about Travelgate
persevered and in 1992, the city of Tar- and Hair Force One. Well, I think we
pon Springs, FL, held a dedication need to ask that question again.
ceremony for this important memorial.
On May 20, the White House anAlthough the memorial started with nounced that the President has named
the purpose of recognizing our great his former Tennessee campaign chairVietnam veterans, it soon expanded to man, Jim Hall, to replace Christopher
Include those from the area who served Hart on the National Transportation
and gave their lives in all wars.
Safety Board. Mr. Hall is a lawyer and
And so I take to the floor today to a real estate developer and has worked
salute Messr. Renneke and Roever and on the staffs of former Senators Albert

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Gore, Sr. and Edmund Muskie as well
as Clinton's Tennessee campaign manager.
What makes this all the more troubling, is that Mr. Hall will be replacing
an 'extremely
well-ualified board
member; Chris Hart.
Mr. Hart is an instrument-rated pilot
with certificates in commercial, singleand multi-engine aircraft. He has a
master's degree in aerospace engineering and has conducted research on heltcopters.
A magna cum laude graduate of
Princeton University with a juris doctor degree from Harvard Law School,
Chris Hart Is exactly the kind of person
we need on the'safety board. -But I have got to ask "what was Bill
thinling" when he decided to replace
an aerospace engineer with a real estate developer on the National Transportation Safety Board? Why, Mr.
President, would you remove the most
qualified person from the safety board?
Oh, by the way, Chris Hart, the most
qualified member of' the NTSB who
President Clinton has replaced Is an
African-American.

ONGRESSIONAL RECORD--HOUS FE
.from the cameras and the public, the
power brokers of the Democratic Party
got together and cut just enough deals
to buy Just enough votes to save Bill
Clinton's tax plan.
- Look at the rule. It magically enacts
seven amendments that will never have
to be debated in the light of day. But it
denies the Republicans the opportunity
to offer or debate, in 'public, any
amendments except for one substitute.
That is not Democracy.
That is the arrogance of the Democrat majority.
GERMANY TURNS TO CAPITALISM
WHILE THE UNITED STATES
LEANS TOWARD BIGGER GOVERNMENT
(Mr. WALSH asked and was given
permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. WALSH. Mr. Speaker, two great
nations are at the crossroads of their
economic future. We all know how flat,
our economic growth is In the United
States. The Clinton administration has
chosen the path of increasing individual and business taxes, Increasing energy taxes, increased Government
spending.
Germany, on the other hand, faced
with higher inflation, higher wage
rates, higher unemployment, and the
assimilation of the former Socialist
East Germany has chosen instead to
slash' government spending, .cut business taxes, and reduce regulations. I
think the Germans have got it right.
They have decided to turn their economy looseand allow the genius of capItallism to work. We on the other hand
are headed toward bigger government,
-bigger deficits, 'and bigger problems
down the road.

May 27, 1993

No wonder -that with tax numbers
like those, President Clinton sets another new low with every poll taken. I
urge my Democrat colleagues to .pay
attention to the American people and
reject more taxing and spending -or
they may'see another frightening number -1994.
THE SAGA OF A 8UMMER JOB
(Mr. KINGSTON asked and was given
permission to address the House for 1
minute, and to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. KINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, we
spent a lot of time In the past couple of
days talking about jobs, particularly
summer jobs. Here is an interesting
story about a summer job and our helpthe-little-man Government. It is a
story about 14-year-old Tommy McCoy
from Savannah, GA.
Tommy was the batboy for the Savannah Cardinals. He was competent,
he did a great job, and he was a hustler. He was popular with the members'
of the team, and everyone liked him.
lie did such a good job that 'the newspaper wrote an article specifically
about Tommy .
Well, what happened? Among the
thousands of readers was a Department
of Labor employee who did the bureaucratic thing and turned Tommy In for
violating section 570.35 '.of the child
labor laws which says that 14-year-olds
cannot work past 9 p.m: even if their
parents say it is OK, even if their
grades are good, even if they are out of
school for the summer.
So Tommy McCoy got fired by this
compassionate Government of ours.
Mr. Speaker, I have written to Labor
Secretary Reich and asked him to reexamine this rigid, unreasonable rule,
and I ask the Members,of the House to
join me In this effort and ask the Department of Labor to make a waiver
for kids who are doing the right thing,
who are showing Initiative, and who
have a summer job which was not provided by the Government.
Mr. Speaker, I think if we do that, we
will be doing something for summer
jobs.

SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT
ON THE RECONCILIATION BILL
(Mr. LEVIN asked and was given permission to address the House for 1
minute, and to revise and-extend his
remarks.)
Mr. LEVIN. Mr. Speaker, thedebate
today"has just begun, and already' the
air is filled with misstatements. '
The largest tax increase in history?
That Is simply wrong. In 1993 dollars,
the TEFRA bill of 1982 was S58 billion
larger than this. That is the fact. The
1982 bill was supported actively by Senator DOLs and signed by President,
Reagan. That is right, it was $58 billion
larger than this one. -,
Second, they say this is six times
taxes versus cuts. That is simply not
true. This bill cuts spending first, and THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION'S
FRIGHTENING NUMBERS
we guarantee it.
Mr. Speaker, those Members who
(Mr. SMITH of Texas asked and was
come after me whose policies created given permission to address the House
most of the national debt of $4.5 tril- for 1 minute and to revise and extend
lion have no standing to lecture Amer- his remarks.)
ica about deficit reduction.
Mr. SMITH of Texas. Mr. Speaker,
the Clinton administration has been
racking up some pretty frightening
A RETURN TO OLD-FASHIONED
SURVEYS SHOW PUBLIC
numbers lately. According to TuesBACK ROOM POLITICS
OPPOSITION TO THE BTU TAX
day's USA Today/CNN Gallup Poll only
(Mr. BUNNING asked and was given 23 percent of Americans are saying
(Mr. HUTCHINSON asked and was
permission to address the House for 1 that the Clinton administration's eco- given permission to address the House
minute and to revise and extend his re- nomic plan should be passed as is, for 1 minute, and to revise and extend
marks.)
while 68 percent-over two-thirds of his remarks.)
Mr. BUNNING. Mr. Speaker, I'm mad Americans-say that the plan should
Mr. HUTCHINSON. Mr. Speaker, the
enough to fight and anyone who be- either be greatly modified or rejected. proposed Btu tax is both hidden and relieves in democracy ought to be just as
As bad as President Clinton's num- gressive.
angry.
bers are, they ain't nothing compared
This stealth tax is deliberately hidWhat is going on today isn't the to the tax and spending numbers he is den, and it will be passed on to harddemocratic process at all. This is a inflicting on the American people. working Americans through higher
rollback to old fashioned, back room Numbers like $43 billion In new taxes prices on everything from lettuce to
politics.
next year, $322 billion in new taxes Levis, and since middle America spends
Nobody really knows what happened over the next 5 years, 600,000 in lost a greater percentage of their income on
last night at 2 a.m. But it sure looks jobs from an energy tax that will cost food, clothes, and haircuts .than the
like deals were cut.
every family $475, and an increase in wealthy, then a greater percentage of
In the dark of night, In a back room Social Security benefits that will be their Income will go to this stealth enoutside the Rules Committee, away taxed.
ergy tax.

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May 27, 1993

THE MIDDLE CLASS ENERGY TAX
WILL HURT AMERICA
(Mr. TORKIIJDSEN asked and was
given permission to address -the House
for 1 minute.)
-Mr. TORKILDSEN." Mr. Speaker. I
rise today in opposition to the proposed Btu tax which President Clinton
wants to impose on the American people.
During the campaign, candidate Clinton pronised not'to make the middle
class pay for his programs. Well, this
Btu tax will make the middle 'class pay
and pay and' pay; The energy tax -will
cost $70 billion, mostly from the middle class.
And the middle class will pay more
than just-the tax on gasoline and other
energy. Everyone will pay more, even
the poor,. when the price of a' loaf of
bread and a gallon of milk goes up.
I applaud the bipartisan effort In the
Senate to remove the middle-class energy tax. The Senate knows- that we
need to out spending first and the
American people want as to out spending first. Hopefully the MHouse of Representatives will get the message, too.Mr. President, $400-a year in new energy taxes may only be a couple of
haircuts for you, but to a family In
America It means a whole lot more.

:Think' of how --angry they will be
when they discover that-, Congress
-foundit easier to rob taxpayers pocketbooks than out Government spending.
.. And think -how they 're going to
react when they get stuck with a $500
.per yearenergy-tax.Now, I- know my Democratic colleague: don't thinl that is a lot of
money." After all, $500 only buy. two
Clinton-haircuta.:
But for average Americans, today's
Btu tax alone will be devastating. And
it will be especially devastating to the.
600.000 -Americans that are going to
lose their jobs because of t. ,Mr. Speaker, I remind my, Demo-

cratio colleagues that the voters won't
-forget. Ask George Bush who agreed to
a'tax hike in 1990.
If you think you are going- to have a
tough time explaining this vote to yourfellow Democrats in the Senate, just
think how tough a time you are going
have with your own constituents in November 1994.

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get a copy.so they can get -the -faoti
They-.'certaiiily' won't get tom-. the
other side of the aisle.
-. Contrary .to the 'remarks of as pr'viobusspeaker, this is, not showtime
today. This Is thesame obld thing: more
-,taxes,, more -'spending,

more regula-

tions,- more :defloit, more debt, both
.'ersonal and 'Federal;, interest .rates
going up, inflation going up.
I will trail off on what is going down:
investment going down, productivity
going down, hard work going down,
savings going down.
THOUGHTS ON THE
RECONCILIATION BILLrT
.(Mr. SCHIFF asked :and' was -given
permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)

Mr. SCHIFF. Mr. Speaker,-we have
heard a great deal of good-sounding
rhetoric, particularly from the other
side of the aisle, that the purpose Of today's bill is indeed to address the deficit. But normally, over the last number
VACATING- OF SPECIAL" ORDER of weeks, we have .heard the' adminisAND - REINSTATEMENT OF SPE- tration's plan,, their plan has been to
CIAL ORDER

Mr. DORNAN. Mr. Speaker,' I ask
unanimous consent to vacate my 60minute -special order tonight and, in
lieu thereof, be permitted to address
the.House for 5 minutes so I can address El Presidente's problem with our
military culture and-why he is in the
face. of our military to speak at West
Point' over the weekend. Some Members have used the term, they are not
pronouncing It correctly, It Is called
showtimne. And this is showtime.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there
objection to the request of the gentleman from California?
There was no objection.

BROKEN CAMPAIGN PROMISES
(Mr. DORNAN asked and was given
ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAK- permission to address the House for 1
ER PRO TEMPORE
minute.)
Mr. DORNAN. Mr. Speaker, I would
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr.
McNuLTY). Members are reminded that like to discuss the rhetorical question
they should address their remarks to asked, with all America listening by
the Chair.
DAN
the gentleman prom Kansa,
GLICKMAN, my good friend.
The gentleman asks why there are no
ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER Republicans supporting the Clinton tax
PRO TEMPORE
hike when 50 Democrats, including the
(Mr. GRAMS asked and was given gentleman from Kansas, supported
permission to address the House for 1 Ronald Reagan In his first year?
It is simply this: President Ronald
minute.)
Mr. GRAMS. Mr. Speaker, It's been Reagan was keeping every one of his
so long since the Republicans have con- campaign promises, and Presidents
trolled this House that many people Clinton is breaking every one of his
may have given up hope that it would campaign promises. Anybody have any
trouble with that analysis? It Is very
ever happen.
Well, Mr. Speaker, there is hope simple. Indeed, doesn't anybody else
again. And we can thank President find it amusing that we will soon be deClinton, and the Democratic leader- bating a reconciliation bill that cannot
be reconciled with any of Clinton's
ship.
After all, just think how angry the campaign promises?
Here is the hottest document on the
American people are going to be when
House Democrats vote today to stick Hill. It is called the Clinton tax bill,
them with the largest tax Increase in updated resource materials for Republican Members. I urge all Americans to
American history.
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CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE

Mr. Speaker, the energy' tax was de
signed in this hidden manner becouse
they do not want people to see It, but
I guarantee they-will feel lt. A recent.
,WalUStreet.Journal poll indicated that.
'more than 0' peroent of the publlo_op-poses the'proposed energy tax It is rid-.
died with :exemptions, and' before' all
the deals are cut, it.is going to resem.
ble a lace dolly.
Mr.-Speaker, I urge my colleagues to
defend their constituents from this
huge tax increase.

address the deficit "and."

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And words have always been added.
after "address the deficit.' and -they
have always been good-soundink words
like "'get the economy .moving again"
or "increase the number of jobs.".'
But the word. "and" is their euphemism for new spending ideas. After all,
the very first proposal from the administration' to reach Congress was -for the
more deficit spending.
Now they tell us that we can have
confidence that this bill will -indeed
raise revenue to go to the deficlt. What
do. they provide? '
They provide such things like a trust
fund to address the deficit, a trust
fund.
Do my colleagues know we already
have a trust fund for the excessive revenues received from Social Security?
And where is that money today? Is that
money down the street in a bank? Of
course, it is not. That money has been
spent by the Congress, and Congress
has returned, in its place, an IOU, a
giant Treasury bill.
That is exactly what can happen with
the revenue raised through increased
taxes in a deficit trust fund.
Congress puts it in the books, bornot there
rows it,. spends it, and it s18
any more.
I suggest we should not have confidence that there will be any differences here.
TERM LIMITS
(Mr. HUFFINGTON asked and was
given permission to address the House
for 1 minute and to revise and extend
his remarks.)
Mr. HUFFINGTON. Mr. Speaker, this
bill is a sham. According to the Congressional Monitor, this S343 billion
measure would bring In $275 billion in
new revenues, that is, taxes, and man-

-date- 38-billion in spending - tte$S4 of
.taxes, Slof cuts There is not 1 of real
deficit reduction. None -at'alL. There
-are no-net spending cuts in-the-first-2
-years'All potential
are
wavin
In the
-third year-and beyond. Wht s the soBution to:this travesty? Term limits_pure and simple. Until we get rid of the
.professional- polticianso, We-wfil never
be able to stop the spenders.. - .On this very day, the -'Democratic
Congress -will pass the largest tax Increase in history, the front page headline:in Roll Call stated "Foley. to-Sue
to Try and-Kill- Term Limits". Mr.
Speaker, the American people are votinj for term limit-2 to L Mr. Speak-.
er, -it's time to listen to what the
American people want, citizen poHlti-cians not professional politicians.
THINK ABOUT YOUR VOTE

(Ms. DUNN asked and-was given -per
mission to address the House for 1
minute-and to revise and extend her re'markls.)

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May 27, 1993
want-ilower taxes. They'-do- not want concerned 'about -the', manufacturing
-les*reedom. They want' more freedom. sector of our economy.
That s-what they are asking for. - - - The President said he- was going to
-.IMr.. Speaker, they ant-change, abso- Stake-a. laser beam- to the economy. -He
lutely,- but' they 'want'-the kind . of certainly did. He took a-laser beam and
change that the President was elected the photon torpedoes and he fust blastfor. They want -the' kind, of change that ed the Mon Valley in my district, and
-the President promised a lot of blue collar workers in western
- ...
. In my town meetings last week, they Pennsylvania who rely on manufactursaid, "Cut spending' first; don't'raise ing and production Jobs to-be able to
taxes."
'
earn a living and put-food on the table.
What-is the bottom line here' The That is what this energy tax is going to
bottom'line is that the President gets do. That is what the inland waterway
eveiyrthing that he asked for. He will user tax is going to do to the Mon ValIncrease the national debt by over 31' ley and -the Mon. River communities
trillion In the next 4 years.
that I represent.
iJust for everyone's information. that .This is wrong, Mr.- President. Mr.
is the samn amount of money that the President, you came to the Mon Valley
debt increased during Ronald Reagan's 'during your election, you came to
first term. the same amount that the McKeesport. You stood in John F. Kendebt increased during Ronald Reagan's nedy Square, and the throngs said they
seoond term, the same amount that the wanted some change. They did not
debt increased during George Bush's 4 want you to.destroy their town. They
years in office.
did not want you to ruin their neigh.Nothing has changed.
borhoods.
When you come back next time, Mr.
President, to John F. Kennedy Square,
IN SUPPORT OF PRESIDENT CLIN- there will not be anybody there.
TON'S BUDGET RECONCILIATION

cian has ever lost an election by voting
against a-tax-ncrease. But plenty have , AMENDMENT
lost by voting'to raise taxes..: -' !
:.:(Mr. RUSH asked and was given perI hope my friends on the other side of miussgn
.the House for 1
the aisle keep that in mind:as we vote minute:toand toaddress
revise and extend his reon-the reconciliation rule. A" vote for marks.) .
- the reconciliation rule is a vote for the
Mr.. RUSHL Mr. Speaker, I rise.this
largest'tax'increase In history.
to urgenmy colleagues in the
The President and his allies in the morning
to have courage. The courage to
-House complained endlessly' about how House
bad the last 12 years have been. Well, lead.
.When you get right down to it, the
Mr. 'Speaker, during the Reagan-Bush fundamental
issue we are confronted
era, our country-enjoyed an economic with
today is: Will the Democrats have
boom unprecedented in our history. We the courage,
and the guts, to govern
whipped inflation and we tamed interest rates. The era came to an end be- this country? Are we fit to lead?
I say emphatically.that we can govcause. the Democratic Congress forced
effectively. And our vote today in
President Bush to raise taxes, The re- ern
cession from that tax increase lingers support of the President's plan will
demonstrate that.
still today.
When I cast my vote for this -bill
And now, the Democrats, led by
President Clinton, want to raise even today I will be adding my voice in supmore taxes. This is like pulling the port of the President's economic agenplug on a patient who is slowly making da That agenda puts a sieable dent in
the Republican-generated deficit. The
a recovery.
Mr. Speaker, I urge my Democratic working poor are helped, the middle
colleagues to think clearly about their class are given a break, and it begins to
vote on the reconciliation rule and on right the wrong-headed policies of
final passage. It Just may be the most failed Repubijcan Presidents which
have left thousands of hard-working
Important vote of your career.
men, women, and young people suffering for too long.
Let us give the President we helped
A FLAWED VISION OF CHANGE
(Mr. HOKE asked and was given per- to put in office the chance to lead this
mission to address the House for 1 country.
minute.)
Mr. HOKE. Mr. Speaker, this budget
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reconciliation that we are being asked
ENERGY TAX DESTRUCTIVE TO
to support today and to vote on reWESTERN PENNSYLVANIA
flects the deeply flawed vision of
change for America that President
(Mr. SANTORUM asked and was
Clinton has. He clearly has misunder- given permission to address the House
stood and completely misinterpreted for 1 minute and to revise and extend
what the people want.
his remarks.)
I had the opportunity last weekend
Mr. SANTORUM. Mr. Speaker, I
to listen to the people of northeastern heard the gentleman from Ohio [Mr.
Ohio and find out what they want.
TRAFICANT] come up and talk. His disWhat they want is not bigger Govern- trict is very much like mine. It is a
ment. They want less Government. blue collar, working class, heavy manThey do not want higher taxes. They ufacturing district where we are very

ANNOUNCEMENT BY- TE SPEAKER
PRO. TEMPORE
The SPEAKER pro temporer (Mr.
McNuLTY). Members are reminded to
address their remarks to the Chair.
TODAY THE CLNTrON
P 'ICPOCKETINGBEGINS
(Mr. SMITH of New Jersey asked and
was given permission- to address the
House for 1 minute and to revise and
extend his remarks:)
Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr.
Speaker, the Democratic leadership
has done It again. The rule we will consider today precludes the consideration
of several significant amendments, including a vital amendment to protect
Social Security recipients.
Last night, I Joined the gentleman
from Wisconsin [Mr. ROTS] and the
gentleman from Illinois [Mr. HASTERT]

in asking the Committee on Rules to
permit consideration of an amendment
to strike the provision in the bill which
imposes a new onerous tax on our older
Americans. The Roth amendment is
fair, and It would have given each and
every one of us a chance to protect
older Americans. Now more than 9 million seniors are going to get whacked.

Mr. Speaker, Mr. Clinton made many
promises during the campaign. Sadly,
he has broken many of those promises,
and the trust deficit, as David Broder
has coined it, is so bad that we do not
know from one day to the next whether
or not Mr. Clinton is going to keep this

promise or keep that promise, he has
broken so many.
Instead of a tax cut for the middle
class, the middle class is going to get a
tax increase. Make no mistake about
It, Mr. Speaker. the tax hike Mr. Clinton wants to impose on all Americans,
especially the middle class, will hurt

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Mr. Speaker, where are our prior,HARDEST .-(Mr. YOUNG of Alaska asked and was Ities? The President told us reducing
.given permission to address the House the deficit was a top priority, but he
.for 1 minute and to revise and extend offers the American people a plan and

-his remarks.) -

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Mr. YOUNG of Alaska. Mr. Speaker,
virtually. all Alaskans agree that the
Federal deficit and- national debt are
major problemL which must be addressed immediately. - :
-It is our job, and the President's job,
to focus on how we :can best solve the
problem,.
President Clinton'has chosen to addrem the issue with a tax and spend
.
program.
I disagree with this approach because
It will .not accomplish what he has
promised

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hard-working lfmilieesand will :cripple: eam .Administration' aection?7a~. loan
-jobs.
:-.- :.
program has been without funding for
-- Mr. -Bush had -said during the cam-. -several weeks; -this: House -ends up
:paign "Watch out..he.-s
ooming. for',wanting to plant trees. That' money
.your-- wallet." ' -Today -the-:Clinton -.could haie leveraged almost 300 -mil-:
-. ' :lion in additional lending to job-creat'plokpocketlng begins.
,.
_. . .. .ng. mallbusnesses throughout the 7i
BOULD
loan
and yet we end up want-*HE U -'-X
EEIT:ALABKA
.THE BTU TAX WOULD HIT ALASKA Ing toprogram,
plant trees.

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Today, we are considering a plan to
establish a Btu tax, a new tax which is
not only unfair, but also unwise.
My main concern is that this new tax
would be extremely unfaiito Alaskans
as we will be taxed more per capitathan any other State in the Nation.
This is not an equitable tax, it is the
equivalent of a sin tax bn Alaskans be-

imposes the largest tax Increase in the

history of our country, and then increases our debt from 4.1 trillion to
over $6 trillion in the next 5 years.
.The President says he wants to cre.aate jobs, but he offers the American
people -' plan that guts their defense
-budget and puts millions of Americans
out' of work. The President's Btu tax
proposal will Impose $71 billion in new
:taxes on the American people over the
next 5 years, and eliminates 400,000 to
600.000 jobs in the process.
In New Hampshire alone, the National Tax Foundation in my district

says that.we will lose 1,047 jobs and in
the Second District 1,060 jobs, a total
of 2,107 jobs..
This is'bad iusiness. We ought to cut
-.spending first, and have less taxes and
smaller government. 'That is the way
we do it in New Hampshire. That is the
way we ought to do it in the -United
States.

cause we live in the'coldest climate
and we have a major reliance: on air
THE BTU TAX TARGE': RURAL
and sea transportation because of our
AMERICA
location and great size.
(Mr. CLINGER asked and was given
I have reviewed-studies which estimate the national -average cost of the -permission to address the House for 1
Btu tax to be $471 for a family of four. minute and to revise and extend his reThis is a large tax for any family.
marks.)
Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, I rise
But It gets worse. The studies also
estimate the average cost of the Btu today in strong and adamant oppositax for an Alaskan family will be over tion to the proposed Btu energy tax.
S1,500, almost 400 percent higher than . Since President Clinton unveiled his
the national average.
program In February, countless letters
Because of this gross inequity and have flooded my office from rural conmy firm opposition to continued efforts stituents opposed to the energy tax.
by the President to raise taxes, I will Working. poor constituents and elderly
not support this proposal.
folks on fixed incomes have written
This is not good government, just me, scared that the Btu tax will eat up
more government fueled by increased their disposable Income. I've spent
taxes.
hours meeting with farmers, small
We should be cutting Government businessmen, and residents from rural
spending, not creating a Btu tax.
Pennsylvania who have related how
Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to this energy tax would adversely affect
join me In opposing this ill-conceived them.
proposal.
After reading articles and white papers, hearing testimony from experts,
and listening to my constituents,
THE CLINTON TAX AND SPEND
there's no doubt in my mind that this
PACKAGE
Ill-conceived tax is a threat to the
(Mr. ZELIFF asked and was given well-being of individual taxpayers, empermission to address the House for 1 ployers, and the economy as a whole.
minute and to revise and extend his re- While yielding little significant envimarks.)
ronmental benefit, this broad-based enMr. ZELTIFF. Mr. Speaker, money ergy tax will act as a drag on our slugdoes not grow on trees. Jobs do not gish economy, forcing more people out
grow on trees, either. The House de- of work and actually reducing tax revecided in its wisdom last night to take nues-the opposite of what the tax is
away money from our valuable SBA intended to do.
In my congressional district, the tax
Program, and it approved 514 million
for a tree planting program. When will weaken the rural area's tenuous
needed programs like the Small Busl- economic base. Spanning 17 counties,

-my -district -is: the approximnate-gee
graphic size ofConnecticut with a very

low- -population

density. . Farming,

.which, -s 'very : energy .intenaive, .re'mains aintegral part of the local economy.-- Small: businesses-whose profit
margins are slim-provide most.of the
area's job growth as Is the case nationwide; But. the bread' and- butter high
wage, high skill jobs are in manufac..turing which is-already overburdened
by excessive State and :Federal taxes.
The antigrowth Btu -tax will kill jobs
in all of these -industries, leaving our
rural economy even more unstable.

On top of this, because of the tax's

regressiveness and my distrtlt's demographic and geographic characteristics,
my constituents will be hit unusually
hard by Btu tax. As. one Pennsylvanlan
told me, "The Btu tax has the Fifth
Congressional District in its crosshairs" and President Clinton is ready
to pull the trigger.
The Clinton administration -has insisted that the Btu tax Is.regionally
fair, but nothing could be further from
the truth. Just because a more onerous
inequitable tax could have been devised
does not mean this one is fair..No one.
can deny that this tax will fall heaviest
on rural America. Rural residents must
travel greater distances to . work,
-school, the grocery store,. and the -doctor's office. They are entirely dependent on automobiles since they do not
have the luxury of opting for mass
transit like their urban:counterpartse.
In day-to-day activities, rural residents
are forced.'to consume' more energy.
and :the energy tax will penalize them
on the basis of where they live.
Mr. Speaker. President Clinton's Btu
tax will be devastating to rural economies across America, and I urge my
colleagues to join me in opposing this
destructive tax.

AMERICA REJECTS TAX-ANDSPEND AGENDA
(Mr. MILLER of Florida asked and
was given permission to address the
House for 1 minute and to revise and
extend his remarks.)
Mr. MILLER of Florida. Mr. Speaker,
In the 1992 election cycle, the American
people thought they were voting for
change. Candidate Clinton promised
real spending cuts, real deficit reduction, and a middle-class tax cut. Candidate Clinton promised to grow the
economy and create new jobs.
Unfortunately,
something crucial
was lost in the transition from campaigning to governing. Instead of honest change, President Clinton is offering the American people more of the
same-tax, borrow, and spend.
Instead of honest spending cuts, the
President is proposing $172 billion in
higher spending. Instead of halving the
deficit over 4 years, the President's
plan will create 31 trillion in new debt_
Instead of a middle-class tax cut, the
President is proposing the largest tax
increase in. history, totaling $273 billion. Instead of growing the economy,

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the President's plan will grow the Fed; try wes around $74 billo By '1906 it ply define this Congress.-It wllV-define
oral Government' anddestroy American -had risen to over 3200 -billion.- and by this country. On ths .vote hangs our futhe end' of the 12 years of the Regn- ture, and -on ths-vote.ewill stake our
jobs. a;
Despite the-; President's .appeallng. Bush- dministrations, it was' over S300 -reputation, It will-be. themeuasure -of
-:
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rhetoric of downsizing government and blllion.' our-'courage 'and the geattest test of
· . e., ,;- .. :cutting waste, there.Is very little in -In 190 the entire natlonal indebted- our will.. -:
For 12 years,our, Nation's leaders
terms of real spending rstrLAint in -the nesw of this country that was accumulated over a-200-year period was ap- have run from.our -problems,'The day
Clinton program.:
'he American people have looked be- proximately $1 trillion.- At the end of has finally -'come ,when iwe how- the
yond the -President's appealingthetorlo -the leagan-Bush era it was 34 trillion, American people that we will not conof change to find more of the same- 33 trillion more than when it started tinue to turn our backs on the chal-'
lenges: before .u-that we will -stand
hiher taxes -higher spending, and out.
higher deficits. This frustraton is re- .This Congress during that period, and fight. And if wedo not show them
flected in a new CNN/USA Today poll. -only with one exception, voted less of a that we can govern, that'we will make
The President's job approval rating ha- deficit than was sent over by the ad- the tough cholces to fix what Is wrong,
then the ·American people-wll -:turn'
hit a new low, with 44 percent apwrov- ministration.
Ladies and gentlemen, the deficit fig- their backs on us
... ing his job performance and 46 percent
ures during -the 1980's ar the proof of
Without publi confidence in the indisapproving.
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The message is clear. The people the pudding as to why we find our- tegrity of Government :we cannot govwant the Congress to reject the Pred-' selves In this tight-financial position ern. If the people lose With in democdent's tax-and-spend agenda, and to cut today.: We now-have a President who racy-and they, are dangerously closespending first. And they are wathing. has advocated and pushed forward the then all we stand for is lost. That is the
largest budget deficit reduction in the choice we make here today.,-;
:
history of the country. We must supThe cholioe. we ae bteing'asked to
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port it.
make. are painful. No one wants to
raise taxes, and I -have- fought hard
VOTE "NO" ON BUDGET
,but this; package asks
RECONCILIATION
AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE LOSERS against -them,their fair share, and
: WITH PASSAGE OF .TAX IN- the wealthy to pay
(Mr. CUNNINGHAM asked and.ws
provides hilf.a trlliHgn dollars in defi-given petrmision to addres ,the House
cit reduction, half a trillion dollarsto
for 1 minute and to revise and- extend
'(Mr. MAC TLEY asked and was ease the mortgage on our children's fuhis remarks.)
given permlssion to address the -House
- i.
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Mr. Speaker, no fot I minute. and to revise and extend ture;Mr. Speaker'-I urge- my colleagues to
nation in history has ever taxed Itself hiaremarks.)
strengthen this body, to show.that we
into eoonomio recovery. In 199, only 33
Mir. MACHTLEY. Mr. Speaker, here can govern, to-lookl to the future. I
Republioans voted for President Bush's is what bothers me about this tax-and- urge them to vote for-this bill.'
tax increae, and most of them are pain which we are going to address
sorry for that today.
today: If the President's tax bill wins,
With an 82-vote dvantage in the the ultimate loser will be the American
,SETTLEMENT OF PENDING TRADE
House. something is wrong when the people. '
CASES ON FLAT-ROLLED STEEL
other side of the aisle cannot pass it.
One of the worst aspects of this pro-

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On the plane, several of my colleagues

posal is the new energy, Btu tax that

ings, Democratic constituents, said,
"Don't raise our taxes or you're not
coming back." Two minutes ago in the aisle another
Democratic Member friend of mine
said, "DUKE, rve got a call from AL
GoRE four different times trying to
pressure me to vote for this thing."
If you have to whip It that hard in
the House, something is wrong.
In 1988 there was a flat tax, GrammRudman which did not solve the problem. In 1990 caps were supposed to have
started. Since 1940. spending has increased $1.59.
The American people do not believe
if you increase taxes and cut later that
that there is no tax on the middle
class. Well. Mr. Speaker, you have the
Btu tax, the gas tax, sales tax, and people do not believe it.
I would ask my colleagues on the
other side not to support the budget.

comes.
The bottom line is that this energy,
,Btu tax falls the basic test of good government, the test of fairness. That was
the President's test.
We. will all pay more taxes to help reduce our deficit, but those who can
least afford to pay more money are
going to be asked to pay more under
this test.
-The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that the.middle class spent 7 percent of their income on energy in 1991.
At the same time, the poorest one-fifth
of Americans spent 22 percent of their
income on energy expenses. To make
this Imbalance even greater'is neither
fair nor right.
Moreover, the energy tax has an adverse impact on areas of this country
that is unfair. In my State it will cost
each family an additional M300.
Let us ax this tax and make this
country fair.

PASS THE LARGEST BUDGET
DEFICIT REDUCTION IN HISTORY
(Mr. DERRICK asked and was given
permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise-knd extend his remarks.)
Mr. DERRICK. Mr. Speaker, In 1980
the annual Federal deficit of this coun-

BUDGET RECONCILIATION
(Ms. DELAURO asked and was given
permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
Ms. DsLAURO. Mr. Speaker, today
we will cast the most important vote of
this Congress. This vote will not sim-

from the other side of the aisle said will especially hit those on lower intheir constituents in townhall meet- comes and those people on fixed in-

it is going to work. The President says

PRODUCTS

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(Mr. REGULA asked and was given
permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and.extend his remarks.)

Mr. REGULA. Mr. Speaker, today the

majority party is prepared to pass the
President's Btu tax. This tax will cost
Ohio 24.000 jobs and 31.3 billion in economic activity. The tax will be dev-

astating to the quality of opportunity

for Ohio citizens. Also I want to discuss
another subject that threatens steel
and steel-related jobs in Ohio and
throughout the United States.
Ten foreign governments have filed
proposals to the U.S. Department of
Commerce requesting a settlement of
34 pending trade cases on flat-rolled
steel products The cases are part of a
total of 84 actions now pending before
Commerce and the ITC involving over
S2.2 billion in product value. It is the
largest legal action ever taken under
U.S. trade law.
If successful In obtaining the proposed suspension agreements, our trading partners and their companies, will
be able to trade an admission of guilt
for a suspension agreement that exempts them from punitive duties that
would otherwise be leveled on the unfairly traded products. The agreements
would essentially create steel quotas
which we found were largely unsuccessful in the 1980s for stopping subsidies
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Quotas do not work and neither will
the suspension agreements The problem with world steel trade is structural
overcapacity. This problem can only be
resolved through the. use of our trade
laws to address the immediate symptoms, which are dumping and subsidies.
A permanent reolution will be found
in the suooesful conclusion of the multilateral steel accord and GATT
Urugay round.
I encourage the administration to' let
the process go forward and refuse outside settlements. To do otherwise will
further dimlnish the effectiveness of
these laws and compromise ongoing negotlations for an International agreement on steel trade set to resume next
month in Geneva

These are real and painful cuts, and
they are being made despite 12 years of
cuts that in many instances have al-.
ready gone too deep.
Those on the other side completely
Ignore this fact.
They Ignore or minimize the cuts
made by this bill. Instead, they pretend
this is a bill that only raises revenues.
Not only are they wrong, Mr. Speaker, but I will predict that within a
month, those on the other side who
argue today that the cuts in this bill
don't go far enough will be back here
complaining that they go too deep.
They'll be back up here in-about a
month to say they didn't favor these
outs. They didn't think these cuts were
going to be made in that area.

free up the vital capital that is being
siphoned away by deficit spending so
that the market can invest In new Industries and new growth. That is our
children's future.
When I got elected to Congress"'
vowed to listen to my oonstituents and
then to lead. I have spent months listening in public forums,- In front of
markets and -shipping malls, in my offloe, and to the intelligent Ideas in my
mail box.

CUTTING SPENDING
(Mr. McDERMOTT asked and was
given permission to address the House
for 1 minute and to revise and extend
his remarks.)
Mr. McDERMOTT. Mr. Speaker, on
February 17 the President came into
this Hall and told the American people
we have to do three things: stimulate
the economy; increase revenues; and
out government spending.

DIMPACT OF THE ENERGY TAX
(Mr. ROYCE asked and was given permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend his re-.
marks.)
Mr. ROYCE. Mr. Speaker, I just received an estimate from the Tax Foundation on the effects of President Clinton's tax plan on California. According
to Dr. Arthur Hall, the senior economist at the Tax Foundation, he says
thae if the President's new energy tax
is enacted it will cost the Nation
463,000 jobs. For California alone, the
job loss will be 4,000 jobs.
Mr. Speaker, the President Is promoting this plan as a job creation, economic stimulus plan But according to
the Tax Foundation. it will be a jobdestroying plan.
Mr. Speaker, we cannot afford this
kind of help. This new tax attacks the
very engine on economic growth. in our
economy. It attacks small business and
It attacks the consumer.
O 120
Past experience shows that it will
just go to fuel new Government spend-

LET US GET ON WITH JOBS FOR

On March 19. this body approved the

stimulus package.
Today, after 12 years of deep and
painful reductions which cut the muscle out of many Federal programs, we
are considering legislation to cut
spending even further.
.
In many of the rograms we'll cut
today, there is precious little left to
cut. Presidents Reagan and Bush already cut them to the bone.
But we'll cut them because we know
we have to bite the bullet and reduoe
the deficit
Now, some of us progressive Democrats have probably made a mistake,
here. We haven't made enough noise
about the real cuts being made today.
We've allowed those on the other side
to clamor on and on about revenue increases as If there weren't any signiflcant cuts In this bill. But there are lots
of them.
In our desire to be responsible, we are
making cuts in this legislation which
the American people are really going
to feel, especially when the appropriations bills move out of here over the
next 3 months.
The $50 billion we're cutting out of
Medicare in this bill today is going to
have an Impact on senior citizens, and
on small and large businesses.
The Federal Government will save
$50 billion, but we are shifting-make
no mistake about It, that's what we're
doing-we are simply shifting that cost
onto the private sector. They are going
to pay for that.
Every Member of this body will see
these kinds of cuts, not Just across the
Nation, but back home in their own
district. In my area we'll see cuts in
the Bonneville Power Adminietration,
cuts in electric power that are going to
be devastating to our economy.

ing. That is the one thing that Con-

grss always Increases, spending. New
social spending goes up every year,
year after year.
I ask my colleagues to vote "no" on
this bill.
NOW IS THE TIME TO MAKE HARD
CHOICES
(Ms. HARMAN asked and was given
permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend her remarks.)
Ms. HARMAN. Mr. Speaker, I conditioned my support of this rule and the
reconciliation package on the addition
of effective enforcement mechanisms
to assure all revenues go directly and
only to deficit reduction.
This bill includes the deficit reduction trust fund and a hard freeze on all
discretionary spending for 5 years This
bill will achieve the largest deficit reduction In history.
Getting the deficit monster under
control is critical to retain and build
high-skilled, high-wage jobs. We must

Now is the time to lead, to make the

hard choices I was elected to make.
I rise in support of this rule and this
package which provide the real and
substantial deficit reduction my constituents and our country are demand-.
ing.

YOUNG AME.RICANS (MLs. PELOi asked-and was given
permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend her remarks.)

Ms. PELOSL Mr. Speaker, this past
weekend I had the opportunity to at,tend my own daughter's graduation
from law school. I have another getting
her master's degree This is a mother
bragging up here this year.
But our colleagues will be attending
graduations in the weeks ahead, either
personally or in their official capac
ities, and when they do, they will see a
new phenomenon that I do not think I
saw -present- in" graduations in yeas
gone by. and that is there to almost a

lever of despair among these graduates
because of the lack of prospects for
jobs when they get out of school.
We all know that graduations are
called commencements. We were told
when we were in school commencement
that It was the beginning. It may have
seemed like the end to our education,
formal education, but It was the oommencement of the new life, the new beginning as we went out into the world.
For these graduates, graduating in
May and June 193, the new beginning
is a dismal one, and for their families
it is as well, because we have been having what is called the jobless recovery
In our country.
How much is it going to take? When
will the Republicans get the message
that we need to reduce the deficit, reduce the cost of capital, so that small
businesses can create jobs and give
hope to these new graduates? I urge my
colleagues to support the President's
package today so that we can get on
with the jobe for young Americans. It
is about reducing the deficit. It is
about governing our country.

(Mr. BACHUS of Alabama asked and
was given permission to address the
House for 1 minute and to revive and
extend his remarks.)
[Mr. BACHUS of Alabama addressed
the House. His remarks will appear
hereafter in the Extensions of Remarks.]

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SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT'S
ECONOMIC PLAN
(Mr. JOHNSON of South Dakota
,asked and was given permission to adlress the House for 1 minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. JOHNSON of South Dakota. Mr.
Speaker, there are components of the
Clinton, plan which are not acceptable
to me, but based on the rhetoric this
morning, I think we need to put some
things In perspective.
There is one alternative before us put
together by the minority In the House
of Representatives. For all the crocodile tears about protecting the middle
class, oddly enough, over 75 percent of
the tax benefits of that plan goes to
the very wealthy and to corporations
while, at the same time, reducing the
deficit $140 billion less than what
President Clinton's plan does, and
while at the same time not itemizing
where those cuts would be. It is one of
those feel-good kinds of proposals that
we have had, the political demagogues
talking about too often in the past.
At least you could say this for President Clinton: He is specific' about his
plan. It reduces the deficit more'than
any other plan in American history,
and he is dealing'with the American
public as adults.
The other proposal we hear about is
the Ross Perot proposal.' It has some
positive qualities, but 362 billion more
in taxes than what President Clinton is
talking about.
If you do not like a 7.5-cent gas tax,
try a 50-cent gas tax while at the same
time reducing the deficit less than
President Qlinton's plan does.
We have always had a lot of people
sitting In the bleachers complaining
aboit the people on the floor who are
actually playing the game. It is time to
get down and play the game ourselves
with bipartisan support Instead of this
kind of wrangling.
MANY AMERICANS "RICH" UNDER
PRESIDENT'S DEFINITION
(Mr. HERGER asked and was given
permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. HERGER. Mr. Speaker, in just 6
months the President has managed to
make the whole country rich. No. he
has not changed the Nation's living
standards one lota, but he has changed
the definition of "rich." In last year's
campaign, only the rich were going to
pay candidate Clinton's new taxes; the
rich were defined as making $200,000.
President-elect Clinton still said only
the rich would pay his taxes, but the
rich only had to make $100,000.
Now in office, President Bill Clinton
says people making as little as 325,000
are rich enough to pay his Social Security tax. But $26,000 still excluded too
many people from being rich enough to
pay President Clinton's taxes, so he decided that everyone who has the money
to buy a gallon of gas, a 40-watt light

bulb, a lump of coal, or a kilowatt of
electricity is rich enough to:pay his energy tax.-Regrettably, this whole chaiade just goes to 'prove that when
President Clinton soaks the rich everyone takes a bath.
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REPUBICANS OFFER TE SAME
OLD PROMISES
(Mr. OBEY asked and was given permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, what we are
hearing from this side of the .asle
today is what I call the SOS message,
or same old stuff; or the SOP message,
same old promises. -This is the same
crowd who told us in 1981 that if we
just .adoited President Reagan's budget, tbat somehow we would get to zero
-deficits in 4 years. Instead, we wound
up with 5200 billion deficits as far as
the eye can see. This is the same crowd
that followed economic policies which
doubled the income of the rich from
S300,000 a year on-average to S600,000,
while everybody else in the country
was losing ground. After 12 long years
·of failed promises, missed targets, protecting the rich, 'is it not finally time
that 'we depart from that message of
the past and. give this President a
chance to bring this economy back to
its senses and to produce the kind of
economic growth we need to give people a chance to make a decent living in
this country again?
:The President deserves this chance;
stand aside and give it to him.

"May 27, 1993

the independent -economic consulting
firm DRI/McOraw-Hill..
' -In addition, Northwest Airlines and
its 24,000 Minnesota jobs will be put in
-serious jeopardy by the newr energy
tax.
The energy tax is a big hit on the
middle class. The average: fanilly of
four will see its energy bill go up by
$425 a year, 'according-to
the nonpartisan Tax Foundation.
Middle-income families will be: hit:
the hardest-just because the President
and Congress refuse to cut spending.
Mr. Speaker, we need to out spending
first, and that's exactly what the KaL
sich Republican plan does. It reduces
the budget deficit by $352 billion in
spending cuts over the next 5 yearswithout increasing taxes.
Congress muSt'say "no" to the largest tax increase in American history
and say no to the energy tax which will
kill American jobs.
Congress must Cut -spending first.
Say "yes" to the Kasich substitute.
ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER:
PRO TEMPORE
; '.
The SPEAKER' pro tempoers - (Mr.McNULTYrr). The Chair' arnounces that
by mutual agreement with the leadership on both sides of the 'aisle, the
Chair will limit to 13 the additional 1minutes on each side.

LOWER INTEREST RATES MEAN
LOWERED DEFICITS
(Mr. SKAGGS asked and was given
permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. SKAGGS. Mr. Speaker, I have
only been here 6 years before this one.
I feel like I am living a Lewis Carroll
novel. If it had not'been for the sham,
the fraud budgets submitted to this
body In the preceding 12 years, we
would not be In the fix we are in right
now.
Let us look at the hard economics of
just one little piece of this proposition:
There are $14 trillion in debt held publicly and privately in this country. If
you assume only four-tenths of 1 percent in interest rate drop because of finally getting serious about the deficit,
we will more than cover all of the tax
increases by savings in interest over
the next 5 years.
But that four-tenths is one-half, onehalf of what we have already realized
in interest rate reductions because this
country Is counting, finally, on something serious being done on the deficit.
That is our responsibility today.

BUDGET RECONCILIATION BILL
(Mr. RAMSTAD asked and' was given
permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise-and extend his remarks.)
Mr. RAMSTAD. Mr. Speaker, I rise in
strong support of the Kasich Republican plan. The two choices today are
clear.
The Republican plan cuts spending
first-the Democrat plan taxes people
first.
The Democrat plan imposes the largest tax increase in American history$355 billion over 5 years. Tax increases
represent 81 percent of the Democrat
package, which will raise the national
debt $1.5 trillion over the next 5
years-according to their own figures.
The Democrat plan will increase the
deficit, destroy jobs, and stifle the
economy just as it is struggling to recover.
The energy tax alone will cost 8,500
jobs in my home State of Minnesota,
LET US DEFEAT THE RULE ON
and almost 1.000 jobs in my Third DisRECONCILIATION
trict; 610,000 Jobs will be lost nationally
(Mr. SOLOMON asked and was given
because of the energy tax, according to
the National Association of Manufac- permission to address the House for 1
turers [NAM]. And the energy tax will minute.)
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker and my
cut gross domestic product [GDP] by at
least $30 billion each year, according to Democratic colleagues, during a mara-

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thon nules meeting last evening,:-i7 TIM -FOR'A R
CHANGE,:CUT :
hours and ending' at 4 am., this morn-. :SPENDING, DON'T RAISE TAXES
AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT'
ing, if I look a little tired;':scores and '.
STEARNS
ked and was given
SPENDING CUT FIRST
scores of Democrats and Republican-,'permison-to address the House for 1
(Mr.
PORTER
asked and. was given
: pleaded, pleaded for .the right to come- minute and to revise and extend his re- - ermission to address
tlhe House for 1.to this floor. and offer amendments' mirks.)
ninute and to revise and extendl-s rethat would knock out the Btu' tax, .Mr.
STEARNS. Mr. Speaker, PresLarks.)
would knock out the Social :Security dent Clinton is trying-to sell the Amer-.
Mr.' PORTER. Mr. - Speaker, the
tax. And,. my colleagues, -you -were.` icin people the largest tax increase.in Lmerican people have -sent a loud,
gagged, all'ofyou, by'ydur Speaker and our Nation's history by-telling them clear message:. Cut spending flrst, -but:
your' Rules Committee.. You. cannot someone else will pay the bill.
f you are going to make us pay more.
He._has used the phony family eoo- t axes, at the very least, guarantee to
'
'
offer any.
Members, you can spit out
ut th
that
.nomlo income standard which counts uu that every penny we pay goes to reyou can come to this floor, and you can employer health care coverage and dduce the 'deficit, not for Increased
do what this organization says the Na-. pension' contributions and the infa- spending.
'
tional Committee to reserve'8cOl
mous imputed rent on the family home
But, Mr.. Speaker,. you just do not get
Security, it urges you to come to the as -ncome, .'to magically turn middle- ilt. Your budget reconciliation package
floor and defeat the previous question, class Americans into wealthy 'Ameri- dioes just' the opposite. It- raises 32 of
ecaims that thee newly lew taxes for every S1 in spending cuts,
and you can then vote for'that amend- aen
ment you'ade
upstairs and asked
Then. he claims that theose newly · n neaning that most of the new tax revement
yor.
u arwealthy
Americans will bear the brunt nnue will, in fact, go for new spending,
for. ,.8..
-hambe
~t
of his tax- increase-75 percent accord- n
The U.S..Chamber 6f Commerce urges ing to the 'distinguished majority lead- lot deficit reduction.
JI' offered ai taxpayer .protectlon
you to defeat the previous question so 'erthi week.
xmendment
would require that
that you can come to this floor and
The Democrats changed the formula e,ach'year thethat
deficit come down by an
vote for your amendment.wipe out that used presently to:compute wealth so ' umount not' less than the new taxes
onerous Btu tax.
.
- they can issue the fallacious statement collected or the taxes are repealed,
The Wall Street Journal goes on to on' the House floor in'this debate. In .aautomatically and immediately.
say,..
:
fact, middle-income people will be conNo deficit reduction, -po new taxes.
The point is that Members shouldn't be . dered rich and are going to be taxed. ' lut, your Rules Committee refused to
able to claim that they oppose parts of the
The. vote today creates newa entitle- aallo* the House to vote on this sentax bill but were helpless to amend'it. A vote 'ments. does not eliminate a single Fed- .aible amendment;-'
for the closed rus is a vote for the largest. eral program, and places.an extremely
Mr. Speaker, you'have sent a mestax increase in American hitory. - .
regressive Btu tax on every American aage back to the American people andBe men and women,- come .down to'. History has shown that for S1 in new I hope they are hearing it. loud and
this floor and stand up for your 585,000' taxes, Congress spends $1.59, 'S237 in clear. You are going to be saddled with
constituents and vote "no" on the rule.. 1990. -We will never tax our way out of hhuge permanent tax increases and 4
Let us do what the American people the deficit. We have to cut spending y'ears from now the deficit will be largwant us to do.
first or we will never break out of the er than ever.
cycle of debt.
WE HAVE MADE THE TOUGH
CHOICES
(Mrs. KENNELLY asked and was
given permission to address the House
for 1 minute and to revise and extend
her remarks.)
Mrs. K-ENNELLY. Mr. Speaker, this
women has come down to the floor and,
like the gentleman before me, she is
part of the process. The President
made a plan, he made the tough
choices, be presented the plan to us.
That plan went to the Committee on
the Budget, where the tough choices
were made.
Then the budget resolution, some
thought that was a tough vote, but
they had to make it, and they made it.
Now we.are here in the budget reconciliation; many choices having been
made, the process has reached the
point where we can take a vote so that
we can go forward in this country.
It is deficit reduction, it is Investment In the country. The Btu, none of
us likes to raise taxes; but the Btu,
across the board, is as fair a tax as
many we looked at; the carbon tax, the
hydro tax, the oil import tax; much
fairer.
Does any of us like taxes? No. But we
are here today to break gridlock, to go
forward, to show that we in the Congress can govern with the President.

WE CAN LOWER THE DEFICIT BY
VOTING FOR THE PRESIDENTS
PLAN
(Mr. PASTOR asked and was given
permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. PASTOR. Mr. Speaker, when I
voted against the balanced budget
amendment, there were Republicans in
my congressional district who criticized me, that I was not for reducing
the deficit.
When I voted against the line-item
veto, there were Republicans in my district who criticized me, that I was not
doing enough to lower the deficit.
When I voted against the expanded
rescission, again I was criticized because I was not doing enough to lower
the deficit.
Well Mr. Speaker, today I am very
proud to tell you I kept my promise,
and I am going to lower the deficit by
voting for this plan. For the first time,
for the first time in 12 years, we are
going to do something about the deficit. Today you will hear some of my
colleagues on this side argue against,
because they are still in the same plan
of 12 years ago: line-item veto, balanced budget amendment-all rhetoric.
If they really want to do something
about this deficit, they should join us
and support this plan.

FIRST TIME IN 12 YEARS
CONGRESS WILL REDUCE DEFICIT
(Mr. WYNN asked and was given perInission to address the House for. I
11ninute and to revise and extend
his ren
n
narks.)
r
Mr. WYNN. Mr. Speaker, for 12 years
we have heard talk about deficit reduct ion and now for the first time we actua lly have an opportunity to do It. And
Vwhat happens? My colleagues on the
oother side of the aisle want to find
e very reason possible why we ought not
d.o It. They want to confuse the issue
aand talk about there are too many
t axes and not enough spending cuts.
But the fact remains, Mr. Speaker,
t hat this is the first time in 12 years
t hat this Congress will reduce the deflc;it, and that is what is important. We
Vwill reduce the drag on our economy
a.nd we will begin to move forward on
c utting both spending and the size of
CGovernment.
element that is significant
CnAnother
this package is tax fairness. Tax
airness, no matter how much they
r ant and rave about taxes on the other
5ide of the aisle, the fact remains that
rnmost of the taxes in this package will
i:be paid by the wealthy. Seventy perocent of the taxes will be paid by the 6
C
Ipercent who are the wealthiest in this
country.
And do you know what? That is a
C
:hange. That is called tax fairness.

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We -acomplish something very. sig-,- 'Butit -iJ very itereting to se the pected to ssrfer-330 billion' in -higher
nificant rwith'this package.
.
We reduce number .of people -who have used that taxes, but they oold not-nd even one
the 'deficit. We lower long-term inter. ' rhetoric about..biting :the bullet and. little domestig -program- to- ellminate,.
,:est ratesand.that is whatlput.peoplet:;maklg the tough ohbloes who are now :-ing that they could not find one litbak to work, becaue housing stLm,Dding. flll- klndrol-reson to
'y,.rtle progrA:';
.
..
ulated, the economy is tmulated.We -..today is not the day, this s not the - · .This plan will -sook it, to the middle
'have already seen the bond market r/o .hcle.-:
.
- .
,
'- l . If you take the Robin Hood fhetspond favorably. to this package,-the .-,-Thiis a propoial.that is more pSe- orio aside,- the..&verage Ameran':is
anticipation that this will pas.
:lc:fo: more.. complete,. more effective .going.to pay. considerably higher taxes
.:We havehad '12 years of stagnation .than .inythn thathas been offered in after being promised a mlddle-ass tax
.and 12 years of rhetorio. I-think it is. the last 12 year
...
cut.
.
great.we are about to have a first year
Today s' the day, this is. the -bullet,
Well, Mr. Speaker, this is not supplyof movement, a first year of innovation ,and it is,tlme to put our. votes where .side economics. This is bllnd-ide ecoand a first yearof deficit reduction
.our rhetorlo has been.
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(Mr. GO88 asked and was given per'
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permission to-address the House for l: inion to address the House for 1
AN OPPOR
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minute and to revise and etend-his re- minte and to revlse nd extend his reT..PA
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marks.)..marks.)... '
(Mr. BOEHLERT asked and was given
· Mr. DREIELR Mr. Speaker-..I have
GO-Mr. MOs8.
Mr. SpeLr, I wonder permission to addrem the-House for 1
.'been fascinated by some of the 1 m :n..what Americans' expect .to own for -minute and torevise and extend his re--'
utes that have.been delivered by Our,, 317.000 -You might think you oould put marks.)
colleagues on 'the other 'aide of the a downpayment on a home, buy a car,
Mr. BO0HELERT. Mr.. Speaker, it is
- .nvest for your retirement, or finance very obvious .there I, deep division
aisle. '.
The "gentleman from Kansas [Mr. -.part-of a college education. Certainly within this House -and. differences -of
bLICIiNl] and 'the gentleman from 'for most Americans S17.000 is a great opinion today as we. undertake -this
Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY] talked about the deal of money. But today, every Amer- veryimportant responsibility..
fact that Democrats supported Ronald ioan man, woman' and child already
The-one thing that unites us is our
Reagan's' economic growth package In owes that 317,000 to pay their share of desire to find those items in the budget
'181. Fifty of them came over and -did our national debt. By the time we have that we can declare unneessary so
that;.
-lived
with the Clinton tax plan for 6 that we can out Fbderal spending.
.I think there is strong agreement on
.The -gentleman from Kansas Mr. yearthat share of.debt will have in"GLuCX~]' said -"what we should .be cresed to more than 320,000 or each that proposition on both -sides of the
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giving President Clinton that amedd'what do 'we get for all that
Well, I am here to helj5 you with' that
. money? Even after M1lthe sacrifie, 'we very difficult pr"pess today, because
level of support.
"We have got to remember some- will' stll own annualnationalbudg- within hours the General Acoounting
thing, Mr. Speaker. Ronald Reagan was et deficit of several hundred billion Office has just released testimony indikeeping his campaign promise. I never dollars And we will still own several cating that the price tag for the
saw .in that volume, Putting People .hundred billion dollars of-annual ov- superconducting super collider, the sinFirst," a plan to increase the Btu ta. eminment waste and pork that Demo- gle most expensive piece of scientific
equipment ever contemplated for purI never saw him putting people first a crats will not let us chop out.
-plan to increase the 8ocial Security
The question is, do the American chase in the history of man has gone
tax on retired Amerlcans.
people own Government or does their - up another $4billion.
Keep In mind a project that started
We want to support a plan that Pre- Government. own them? Sadly, the andent Clinton will bring forward if it swer seems to be that- American tax- out with a projected cost of $4.4 billion
would In any way look like the cam- payers have been bought, but not paid s now certified by the General Accounting Office to cost-at least $11bilpalgn pledges he made to the Americarn- o
people last fall.
lion.
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Also keep in mind that we, this
OPiPOSE BLIND-SIDE ECONOMIGC
House, by an overwhelming vote apTODAY IS THE DAY TO PUT OUR
(Mr. ROHRABACHER asked and was "proved a project if there was foreign
VOTES WHRE OUR RHETORIC given permlsslornto address the House participation of at least 20 percent of
HAS BEEN
-'for 1 minute and to revise and extend the total cost.
.(Mr. SWIFT asked and was given per- his remarks.)
To date, Mr. Speaker, we do not have
mission to address the House for 1
Mr. ROHRABACHER. Mr. Speaker, I foreign participation, not the first yen
minute and to revise and extend his re- rise In strong opposition to the Clinton from the Japanese. We are supposed to
marks.)
tax increase, the largest tax increase in have $1.7 billion. We have got $15 milMr. SWIFT. Mr. Speaker, one of the American history, which will hit the lion.
phrases that has become a clique in middle class, bring our economy to a
Here is an opportunity to save
this country, when you talk about the standstill and In the end Increase the money, to get serious about priorities.
deficit, s1we have to bite the bullet. deficit.
-Help us defeat the superconducting
We have got to make the tough
My friends on the other side of the super collider.
choices.
aisle have characterized this plan as an
What we are being asked today is not attack on the deficit. Pure Clintonese.
I remember in this body In 1990 when
DO THE REPUBLICANS REALLY
popular. It would not be a tough choice
SUPPORT BUDGET CUTS?
they claimed that the 1990 tax increase
if it were popular by definition.
We have to provide Investment in would bring down the deficit. Instead,
(Mr. KLECZKA asked and was given
this country which has been neglected we got higher taxes and a higher deficit permission to address the House for 1
for over a decade. We have to deal with and that is exactly what this tax In- minute and to revise and extend his rethe deficit, and that requires spending crease will do as well. iarks.)
cuts which are only popular in the agThis proposal will not reduce the defMr. KLECZKA. Mr. Speaker, regardgregate. The individual spending cuts Icit because It does not eliminate one ing the super collider superconductor, I
are unpopular, and It Involves taxes Federal domestic program. Get that. support the gentleman's comments. I
which is unpopular.
The American people are being ex- will be joining him in voting to cut out
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of Governand,
the
-importance
this fundIng, but I also challenge those · SOMB DEMOCRATS SELW .OUT FOR selves
ment policies which ,tingbly. asesidt
,:
. :--.;.:PEANUTS
-who are listening today to. check the- .-.,
..-,
these'ndIlvlduals.. rollcall for: the Republlcs.- It seems ,: Mr. BOENER : Sired and wagiven
. very mall:the:-Housefor 1 .- Microenterprises are the
to
re
that-they ,ome to the foor..t.permissdon
for cutting ll' the programs .but wben. minute'ind-to revise and- extend his re- est buinesseahaving five.or fewer employees, at least one of whom owns It.,
.. _
it comes to.str-wars,when it oomes to mTarke.):.the collider, well that is. not spending. - Mr..BOEHNER. Mr.' Speaker and my Often.. mlcroenterprises .have, no emThat is not deficit reduction, and they colleagues, we-all know that President ployees beyond the owner-operator(s),
:.'- 'Clinton and his alliee here on Capitol which is the reason-.thatvelf-employ.coose not to uppor-thre cutr.t
It seems that ever- since the.Repub- Hill-'are doing 'everything they can, "ment is often an issue. It is frequently
licans loustthe White House, they have twiting arms," bending arms, to try to seen a a road out of reliance on public
votes to pass this bill assistance, -although- startup -help is
nd enodugh.
in .thLs
maically found-somethi
country called-the middle class. That tda. They are making promises left regularly needed.
ecessay - Two examples' from the Chicagosame middle. cla that for 12 years and right to pick' up the
Self-Employment
based. Women's
they shunned, they raised taxes on and vot-s'they do not yet have.
And what promise was made late last Project [WB8EP] demonstrat the value
they have nothing to do with
e
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of. microenterprise programs and the
night 'to pick up the votes of six or need for this legislation.

: seven
"
:Demorat colleagues from the.
But now, after the George Bush de- South? My colleagues will not believe
Appa
feat, they have -all-of a. Wdden found itMr;'8peanuts
entlylat night the President:offered
something in their district called.th
mplg to limit the amount of peanuts coming
middle elms.. Well, :here l a
of some of the tax- cut in .the bill we into this country to drive up the price
'are going to be taking ulater this of domestically produced peanuts. Not
afternoon: A surcharge Is imposed on only are the Democrats today going to
increases over 260,000 a year. Is that stiolk the American' people with the
middle class? Business club dues and largest increase'in the-'history'of this
lobby deductions eliminated. rHow world, but they are going to stick it to
many business class'people are affected every kid and their parents in this
byM
that?
that? .....~''by"'country.who
- - -buys candy bars and pea-'
Mr. Speaker, It Is a balanced pakck- nutbuttr and jelly sandwiches.'-boMr.: Speaker. it is lncredlble,.
the House to support it.
I
age, and .aak
lutely Incredible, that,six or seven of
E D ORKI
Pmy
FOR
cblleagues' have sold'out for peanus. *
THE DR. KEVORKIAN PLAN. F
(Mr. OOX asked and was given per-

'IE
OF.
mission to address the House for 1 INTRODUCTION
OPPORMICROENTERPRISE "'
'minute and to revise and extend his reV:UNITY EXPANSION ACT
marks.)
Mr. COX. Mr. Speaker,. I listened
(Miss COLLINS of Michigan asked
with interest as one of my. colleagues and was given'.permission to address
praised the Clinton tax increase plan the House for 1 minute and to revise

Ms. Lynn Hardy was on welfare when
she joined one of WSEP's programs in
1990. She.used her first $1,00 loan to
begin a graphic arts business known as
L'ynn's Designs. At first, Ms -Hardy.
liiited her. services to business cards

and signs. Within 18 months, however,
she expanded her services to calenidars,
posters, airbrushed T-shirts,.'and-day
care murals. Ms. Hardy borrowed,from
the o1an .fund a ecoond, time, using
3,500 to purchase supplies.. Through

her own strength' the support of other
new entrepreneurs at the program, and
WSEP capital. Ms. Hardy now supports
herself and her three children. "Believe
ime,",she wrote, "* * .*it will be a succes. story for all low-incomeLwomenletting them know with trust in God,

having a vision, and WSEP you an
'
'
make It."

In contrast with- Lynn Hardy's' suo-

cess, Ms. Bernice Jackson met Govern-

*ment-imposed obstacles that she sim-

ply could not hurdle. In 1987, she joined
a different one of WSEP's programs

because it is going to produce $200 bil- -and extend her remarks.)
and participated in the self-employlion deficits as-far as the eye can see.
Miss COLLINS of Michigan. Mr. ment training. She then started her
That is, in fact,. what It does, and the Speaker, today, I am introducing the own cleaning business which she operso-called deficit reduction is the result Microenterprise Opportunity Expan- ated for 1 year. Ms. Jackson was forced
mostly of tax increases quantified, ac- sion Act. with a great sense of satisfaeocording to our oolfficial estimators, at tion and accomplishment over the
about one-third trillion dollars. The prospects for microenterprises across
trouble is that one-third trillion dol- the county.
lars in projected revenues will not be
In 1988, when I first began preparing
there because that is not the way tax microenterprise legislation, very few
rate Increases and new taxes work. people in Government with whom I

Higher taxes on individuals will mean spoke were at all familiar with the conless work, less savings, and less investment. Higher taxes on working senior
citizens with incomes as low as S25,000
will mean less senior citizens working
and being productive. Higher taxes on
energy, we are told with authority, will
cost over one-half million jobs in
America.
Mr. Speaker, it is no wonder they
call it biting the bullet. This Is really
the Dr. Kevorkian plan for our economy. It will kill jobs, kill businesses,
and yes, kill even the higher tax revenues that these suicidal tax increasers
hope to gain.
(Mr. LAROCCO asked and was given
permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
[Mr. LAROCCO addressed the House.
His remarks will appear hereafter in
the Extensions of Remarks.]

cept of micreenterprise development.
In 1990, when I introduced the first bill
promote
to
in
Congress
microenterprise in the United States,
there were still only a few Members of
Congress or congressional 'staff that
were familiar with microenterprise
programs and their benefits.
Now, in 1993, the landscape has been
overhauled. Today, we have a President
who vocally and frequently touts the
virtues of promoting microenterprises.
Additionally, a number of other Members of Congress have initiated other
efforts on this subject including, most
notably, H.R. 455, the Microenterprise
and Asset Development Act, Introduced
by Representative TONY HALL. of which
I am pleased to be a lead cosponsor. Finally, the public, the Congress, and the
Administration have come to recognize
the value of helping people help them-

to shut down her business because It
generated too much money to allow
her to keep her AFDC benefits, yet not
enough money to replace'the necessary
health and child care benefits that she
was receiving from AFDC. Fortunately,
for Ms. Jackson. having benefited from
the training she received at WSEP, she
was able to find a full-time job and
work' her way off of welfare. Yet, according to-Ms. Jackson, "If I had been
allowed to continue receiving some of
my public aid benefits, that would have
given me a better chance to say In
business, and by now I think I would
have reached my goal."
There are people like Lynn Hardy
and Bernice Jackson all over the country, trying to start a microenterprise,
trying to become self-sufficient, trying
to get ahead. Often, however, they cannot find those first -few dollars to start
their company or the basic business
training they need to maintain It.
Many who do find the money and training are then running into governmental brick walls which block their
progress.
Dedication and skill are in abundance. Unfortunately it takes more

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than that to succeed in the fce-of ob- Qclearinghouse of information relating
I would like more. cUts. Most -of us
steclee and hortages of asistanc . .e to microenterprlses to encourage banks would like .more cuts. And think we
'The most common type of help that to provide funds for thes pirpose.
can achieve more cuts later- this year.
i, needed -is a loan Microenterprse - Finlly, -the bill alls for ai tudy to
But 'what.i before *u-4righthowr is
·. ograms which lend .strtup 'alta . be conducted to analye the loan needs S500 billion tn deficit reduotion'and all '
are now scattered acroes -the oountr;.
to. enterprlses. that .are .larger than of us acknowledge'that Is the most ImThey are. most-often non-proit or. micioenterprise .yet smaller than portant economic item-on our agenda.
looal-grovrment-run -establishments aa
businesses.
.
to bring the dflicit dowrt.
-'i -: -...
md ommonly - disburse . loans: in :Mr. Speaker,- theie measume, taken .As my colleaguee know, we have been
mounts: up to 10,000. Most of thee' -together, would open many avenues for ducking these: decisions. -for-12 years,
mlcrolender also offer orrequire Urt ndividuals to begin their own busi- and the deficit, the-debt,-has gone from
Ing degrees of business traininK,: con. ieames and, In many ases,. elevate S900 billion to'over $4 tilllon'land we
tining technical assistance and other themelves fom-publlc assistanoe. It simply have got to do something about
means of support to ensure the sncess .would also- Ifaclitate the' efforts of it. >...
. -. . .
I like very few parts of the plan I degroups, organisltions-and lenders who
of the ventur.
- As a result, mioroenterprise
haVse a -are already .working hard to: lend a plore tax .inoreas. -They are awfuL
very -high rate of growth and the.-oan hand to thess Americans. But we all know that we cannot effecrepayment rate overall la around 96
In abort, mioroenterprise s a good tively deal with the. deficit without
peroent. In the ce of the WEP, bhelr. lnvestment.. -.It. helps local commu- both revenue increases and cuts
two -program - have .loan repayment ntles, the economy " .a whole, and.
Colleagues we have -no -choice. I
rates of 9 and 100 percent. Erm when most importantly, Americans who have mean we have-got to turn the corner on
the. venture does not succeed over the both needs and a
aerabut insguffolent the deficit and on the debt issue.- -longrun, te training that the entre- resource. I encourge my colleagues
This is our..opportunlty to do t. :Let
-nmurs receive helps them ind -. to support this bL
us do it and get the.job done. . ploytent and advanoe their ceer
otherwise, a happened with -Bernoe
Jackson.

-

T-M Mior terprse Opportunity Expansdon Act, which I aM Introdcing
today, ams both to eliminate Federal
: obtacles which tand in the- way: of
sem in this area and to increase the
flow of caplitl to, miorolnders and
nmioenterprlses. The bill seeks to soc'omplish thesegoals through a viety
of mechnism
First It would distinguish between
basiness and personal assete for pur-poses of AFDC so that business assets
Inludng loans, would not be counted
toward the eligibility requfrement
asset lmittions of AFDO.
Second, It would exclude, for purposes of AFDW., ncome derived from a
mleroenterplis for 2 year, so that aid
continues during a transition period
unlike as in the case of MS Bernloe
Jackso
Third, persons who are otherwise eligible to receive unemployment compensation payments would be able to
continue to receive them even though
they are starting up a mlcroenterprise,
and such payments could be combined
in one lump sum payment at the start
of the benefit period.
Fourth, to encourage banks to provide capital for these purposes, the bill
would enable banks to receive credit
under the Community Reinvestment
Act for certain loans and grants that
they

make

to

microenterprises..

-miorolenders

and

Fifth, the legislation would enable
thrift savings associations to roelve
credit toward their qualified thrift
lending investment requirements under
the Home Owners' Loan Act for loans
made for these activities
Sixth, it would clarify that CDBG
funds could be used for administrative
and operating costs of microlenders
who offer training and technical assistance to their borrowers.
Seventh, the bill would create a
bllcro-Enteprise Technical and Operations Office IME-TOO] in the Federal
Reserve and the FDIC to functions a

-

THE ROBIN HOOD DEMOCRAT
PATf

-

-,Mr. FRANXt of Connecticut asked

and was given. permission. to address

THE DIFFERENCE IS
.CLEAR

(Mr. H OEK8TRA

asked ind,-was

given permission to address the ,.House
..
':
forI minute.) -

the House for 1 minute and to revise
and''tend his remarks)
:
-Mr. FRANS of Connecticut. Mr.
Speaker,-as we consider the budget ree-

- Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr.- Speaker, :today
I applaud my Demcrat -colleagues on

called- the Demoorat Party: the .Robin
Hood Party because- they would like to
take from the rich to give to the poor.
Now- the redistribution of wealth
question' is
seerious ismue, and it
should not be belittled. However maybe
the Robin Hood Democrat Party comparison has some merit to it, except
-our President and the Democrats would
believe that anyone earning over
3,o00 a year is rich.
Yes, Mr. Speaker, the Democrats
would want to take from these individuals 'and give more money to Government programs and social welfare like
spending programs.
Tax and spend? Robin Hood Party?
Democrat Party? Maybe this youngster'
was not too faroff. But someone please
tell that 534,000 a year blue-collar
worker that he is rich.

government." -:
*

the floor of the Houe.'Cod.lgratulatlons
on breaking gridlock, and, most Imporoncillation vote. today, I cannot help tantly, I say, Thank you foriclarifybut reflect back to a comment made by ing the. differences between the Demoone of my high school constituents He cratlo- and -Republican approch., to

LET

TE JOB DONE

-.

Mr. Speaker, ater the vote today the
American people will know what th 9
Democratic Party stands for: for more
taxes, for more spending and, perhaps
most importantly, the philosophical
belief that problems can be solved In
Washington rather than by empowering people at the local level. In 1994 the
crucial decisions will be made because
at that point in time voters will be
able to hold the people of this House
accountable for the decisions that I
have heard described as the most Important decision of this House.
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The differences are clear. There will
be no differences between hollow campaign promises, but the decisions will
be made on the decisions we make
here.

LET'S GET THE JOB DONE

PUT SPENDING CUTS FIRST

(Mr. HOAGLAND asked and was
given permission to address the House
for 1 minute and to. revise and extend
his remarks.)
Mr. HOAGLAND. Mr. Speaker and
my colleagues, as you know, the time
has come to be responsible, and the
time has come to do what we have to
do. The time has come to be nonpartisan, and the time has come to do
what is best for the country.
Mr. Speaker, the bill that we are
going to vote on today has 5O00 billion
in deficit reduction. Over S24S billion of
that is in cuts.

(Mr. SMITH of Michigan asked and
was given permission to address the
House for 1 minute and to revise and
extend his remarks.)
Mr. SMITH of Michigan. Mr. Speaker, yesterday, I appeared before the
House Rules Committee, along with
many of our Republican colleagues, to
argue for the right to offer amendments to today's tax bill. With one exception, my colleagues and I were denied.
In examining the rule passed out of
the Rules Committee. I must say that
I am offended.

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:It slows-for enly 2 hours of debate
on the most important bil of this deoas Too short a time for osuch
an im,mortatand farm aching measur '-Worethe
'rulle-oontains
seven wocalle
if-xeouting prdvsions. that
are politicts payoff to spesal intereste to gain support for the bill. ';
Finally, a deal that wan reached'
-earl -this'-morning to eurb entitle-

.that would cut spending t for every S1
-raised',n twes. 'BShort
after being
sworn in, tat
became a 1 to I ratlo.
.But the plan that will come before us
later,today will raiee $4,f t'-axe for
every $1 in spending outs.
Since I came to Congres the people
back home have been sendlng me a
message which I have received loud and
clear Cut spending first. But that mesnentrsIsasham.sage appatently has not gotten.thtoughAs report,
althogh the details to the. White 'House or to many Memhave not yet truly surfaced, all the en- - bere of Congress.
Utlement cap does is call for Congress
Mr. Speaker. what these taxes will do
and t.b President to either ramse taes- Is cause the American people.to rebel
or aut spending when the caps re- ageinst Washington. I live iln the State
brea1he. This Is nothing and fals to .of the Boston Tea Party, an earlier tax
address the central problem.
revolt- But ths..plan'will-cus
e an
Mr. Speaer, .the American people American Tea Party, fom sea to shinwant sped
cuts firt, before they ing sea sending message to Washingare asked to give more of their hard- ton, enough is enough.
'arad money to the Government to

PIED PIPER LEADING
DOWN WRONGROAD

(Mr. BURTON of Indian. asked and
was given permlssion -to address the

House for 1 minute and 'to revise and
extend bs remarks.)
' Mr..BURTON of Indian :Mr. Speaker, Abraham Linooln said Lu :ould
ool-all the people some of the time and
ome of the people all of the time, but
you canot fool all the people all the.
UtmrsI would just say to my Democrat
colleagues, If you look in -the'paper th
morning you found that Presdent OlInton's awroval rating is now at 2 percent and his disapproval raing is t 4
peroent, 48 percent. Do you know what?
That is the largest In history, the largest in history.
Mr. Speaker, do you know why? It is
because the American people have
cugEht on to thin President, who has
broken every single promise he had
made in his first 100 days in office.
And what Is he doing? Like the Pied
Piper, he is leading you down the path
to political rauin. Now, make no mistake about it: if you vote for the largeat tax increase in U.S. history, and
you do not make the spending cuts
that you should, many of you dear
friends, whom I love so much, will not
be back in 2 years. So think about
that. Please do not follow this misled
Pied Piper down the wrong road. It is
going to ruin you. Do not do It. It is a
big mistake.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
(Mr. RLUTE asked and was given permission to address the, House for I
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)

Mr. BLUTE. Mr. Speaker, today the
House will cast one of the most important votes of the year. We will vote on
President Clinton's $340 billion tax and

spend plan. I want my colleagues and
constituents to know that I plan to
vote "no" on that plan.
On the campaign trail the President
said that he would put forth a plan

TIME TO TAKE ACTION
(Mrs. LOWEY asked a'n
w given

he have to punish'the rest of the Nation?
The Tax Foundation-basjist ~Isued a
lst of Job lses for 'very dlngle .State
In the United States -of America that
will result rom this misguided taxr No
other country tn :the world taxes Its
raw energy, becaseU'the industries in
those countries must consume that energy to produce' those products,' and
that must be passed on In'higher
prties. -

'"

Why does he penalze middle-income
Americans $471 per year per xamlly In
the products that they buy that 4nclude energy? Why does.-he'nsist
on
this tax that will oostobs. reduce the
tax base of this ountry. and prevent us
from gaining the extra revenue that we
need to balance the bdltget?
AMERICA IS FOR ALL PEOPLE
(Mr. REYNOLDS asked and -was
given permission to-address the. House
for 1 minute and to revise and extend
his remarks.)
.
Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr.' Spkeer, I. rise
today to'let the American' people know
'that for the first time in a longtime In
this body: there is going to'be some
courage shown' today and that -we are
not.golng to !ll prey to the scare tactics from. the other side -of the aisle,
telling people about they are going to
lose tf they vote a certain way. When I was running for office this
past November, the Rlpublican Party
put out a saying that :I was going to
lose to my Republican-pponent, that
he had a real- chance of beating mae. because I was wrong on the issues.-I got
over 80 percent of the vote.
The fact of the matter is that for 12
years this body has done nothing but
lapse behind. It is time for us to move
forward and have some 0ourage and include all Americans in our plan, not
Just the rich people, not Just the people
that have It made already. We have to
expand this country and help people in
this country, the middle class, the people who are less fortunate, to have a
stake in this society. We have to believe that America is for everybody,
not just for a few.

permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend her remarks.) -Mr LOWEY. Mr. Speaker.. I have
beair a lot of talkthis morning, and I
tfhik that is exactly what the AmerIcan peopleare sick and .tired of. They
are tired of doublespeak. they are Ared
of.rhetoric, and they are tired of people
saying just.sweep it under the rug.
They are tired -of people saying it 18
morning -in America, everything s8
going to be fine. tomorrow.
Mr. Speaer, when you go to a doctor's office they give you the medicine,
and then they give you the lollipop.
What we have going on around here is
Just handing out lollipopse.
This is a President who wants to
lead. We are a Congress that has to
govern. It is time for the talk to be
over.
This is the biggest deficit reduction
package in history. $500 billion in deficit reduction, over $S00 billion in specific cuts. Yes, we hear about Ross
Perot's plan, this one's plan, that one's
plan. But If you actually look at the
plans if those plans were ever brought
to the floor, no one else would vote on
them.
Mr. Speaket, I do not like everything
about this plan, but at some point the
WASHINGTON POST EDITORIALS
debate is over. That is our democratic
SUPPORT PRESIDENT
way. We have to take action, we have
to lead, and we have to vote, I hope my
(Mr. MENENDEZ asked and was
good friends on both sides of the aisle given permission to address the House
will join us and give this President a for 1 minute and to revise and extend
chance to lead.
his remarks.)
Mr. MENENDEZ. Mr. Speaker, the
last two editorials of the Washington
PRESIDENT'S BUDGET PENALIZES Post. say It all: Bill Clinton is right.
MIDDLE-INCOME AMERICA
The deficits that were allowed to accu(Mr. ARCHER asked and was given mulate over the past 12 years are one
permission to address the House for 1 fiscal and the other eocial. Today the
minute and to revise and extend his re- House Democrats have an opportunity
marks.)
to begin to reduce them both. Not
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, with quite to restore the Nation's fiscal
President Clinton's clear dislike for health, but at least to put it on the
the oil Industry, It Is understandable path to restoration, and by providing
that he would present a plan that pun- the means to provide the ability to
Lshes Texas, that costs Texas 37.000 jobs govern as well. Either they vote to do
through his energy tax. But why does this, or they vote to let the country

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:-continue:to drift irresponsibly and to

,.

-· 'OMNIBU8s.BUDT-.:

.....-

Mr .'SpeakerHou

s'

:eon-Stlution-

:

think as' before. That is their choioe, , REOONCIIATION ACT OF 199.3 i v-,provldes that upon {ta-adoption :Modi-'
.the only choiceo.
-Mr DERRICKL Mr.sprerker;bydire- fications to H.. 2264-printesd-in.pat 1I
:-The!.House -Republicans areSgoing to 'tion of-the Commttee o-Rules, icalof the .port- of,,th-CV,-Ittt
ee'on-sit..op,their hands. They always do at-',.

Hoiue Resolutoibh186
.anid

ask for its:- Rules- .coompanyiing thls :-:resolution.,

·budget time. They used to vote no even immediate cofisidera. .
shall be ,onsidered as adopted Inr-the
;on their own, President's budget. Look,
The Clerk read the resolution, as fol- 'House and Ain: the: Committee - of .the
.Ma. no fingerprints, that Is their ideal -1w:
'
Whole."' .fiscal policy.
:Oe -of those m-odioCatioansfM-. Mr.
::This President, elected with only 43
.
.
.
Speaker,, contained in-the'Committee
'---'-

·percent of the vote, has courageously .Raovd That'at any. time after the dadop- on Rules report, adds ;a totallyaznew
done what his predecessors notoriously tion of this resolution the Speaker m/, Pur- title-XV to the bill entitled. "Budget
doant to raus' l(b) of rule XIr declare the-:..
did not: he has proposed a rstoratio , House
aos" reoived into te Committe of the
'
Of-fiscal discipline.
uledcon'the utathe o.0tf tie
Subtitle B of th title in the report
'' E'olr
Whole'House
the Unica
UnloO tfor
It may not be a perfect program, but consideration of the bill (H.R. M2)'to pro- is .entitled ,'Amendment to the- .Con-:
what is? It is a solid one, and balanced. vilde for reconllatiou pursuant to section I greessional Budget and ,Impoundment
It would do what It says it would. His of the oonourrent resolution on the budget Control Act .- of 197t4;-'-Conforming
opponents have made no such proposal, for fiscal year 19. The first reading of the Amendments"
-:.- -::,
:
not one that can pas, yes or no, with bill shall be dispensed with. All points of - Section 152.-ofthat subtitle is' entithe country's wll-being at stale. That
adg is
oonstderation of the bill are tied "Conforming Amendments to the,
queto
the~1isbefoede
eneral
of the House
of Representatives."
Is thevoesteon
before the Hadad Yes issshollobe
the bill nd
the debHY
amendments'
deonfined
in ordeto rules
Thesection
ncldes
six separate, pr
the vote they should stand and deliver. by this resolution rand shall not exced two Te
otinIcusixepaepr
hours equally divided andcontrolled by the
aet,
not tmporary but permanent
chairman and ranking minority member of amendments to the House Rules which
021340
the Oommittee on the odget. ter general
nmend: rule X. olause 4(g); rule XI,
debate the bill shall be -onsldered for c.lause 2(LX3XB); rule XI,-clause 2(LX6);.
IN SUPPORT OF THE
amendment underthe five-minute rule and rule XIa-blause-'; rule XXI- clause 8;
RFXX)NCIIITION
PACKAGCE
RECONCILIATIONPACKAGE
shall be oonsidered as read. The modifs- and rule.XLIX,,caue 2..,' (Mr. JACOBS asked and was given tions to the bill printed in part 1 of the re- .And yet, dsiaq.te the-fce that this.
permission to address the House for I port of the Coimmiittee on Rules ooompanresolution, upon Its -adoption, lamends
~minu~~ted~.)`~.ing
this resolution shall be considered as House rules in.those aixdifferent part,'
'Mr.: JACOBS. Mr. Speaker, it.is the adopted In the House 'ant in
thCommsttee
,.)Mr.:ty JA ~of-t
Whole. l points pinst
of offer
t
.
the:
nowhere in the Teport of the:. Commitstyle of the day to give one another the bl
oiJd
No ndmt
tee on Rules for this resolution-is there
devil for his or her honest opinions. I. to the bill, as modified, shall be in order x· any kind of comparativeprlnt showing
:do not think we need to do that. There sept the amendment in the nature of a sub- .the changes being made
e/om
the exist-.
'is so much, as they say, good in the stitute printed in part 2 of the report. The ing rules as is required in House'rule
worst of us and bad in the best of us amendment in the nature of a substitute XLI clause 4(d), -which I cited earlier
by Representative Ka- today.
that it hardly becomes any of us to say mry be offered only
d.igee
of Ohioorabl
his~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'
be
-.
'...
-very
much about the rest of us.
,alh of Ohio or his a"
deInMee,
shall be considMr Speaker, It will not do to argue
-Whatever happens today should be
re ad, shall be debatable forone hour that
change
i
beingmde
inn
esequall divided and controlled by the prodone.with civility. There
honest
'
pre
onent and an opponnt, and sha!l not be order of business resolution. House rule
differences of opinion. This is why.I in- subject to amendment All.-point. of order XI does not differentiate between -spe-tend to support this reconciliation against the amendment in the nature of a clal rules and other resolutions repackage.
substltute are waived. At the conclusion of ported'from the Committee on Rules.
First of all, -70 percent of the tax in- consideration of the bill for amendment the It only refers to "a resolution repealcreases, as has been said, are on the Committee -hall rise and report the bill, as ing or amending any rule 6f the House"
people who enjoyed the largest tax cute modified, to the House with sucoh amendment whenever It is reported by. the Commitduring the 1M80's.
as may have been adopted. The previous tee on Rules.
question shall be oonsldeied
ordere
d
M
a
tion
Second, I have two little boys, and I the bill and amendment thereto to final pas-aker,
the resoltion clearly
am not going to push this burden off on sage without intervening motion except one makes such changes, and the report
to them.
motion to recommit, which may not include must, therefore, include a comparative
Instructions.
print showing those changes. Other~ELECTION
MEMBERS
OF
TO
C~
POINT
or
0RDER
wise, I can assure my colleagues, Mr.
E!,ECTION oF MEMB3ERS TO CERTAIN STANDING COMMITITEES OF
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I rise t
Speaker, as I look at all of these
THE HOUSE
a point of order,
changes, which I have here now, 90 perThe SPEAKEU pro tempore (Mr. cent of the Members of this House have
Mr. MICHEI. Mr. Speaker, I offer a MCNULTY). The gentleman will state never seen this document that I have
privileged resolution (H. Res. 187) and his point of order.
in my hand here. I know almost 100
ask for its immediate consideration.
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, respect- percent on our side, and I am sure only
The Clerk read the resolution, as fol- fully, I make a point of order against those who might have been active last
lows:
House Resolution 186 on the grounds night between the hours of 2 a.m, and 4
IL RES. 187
that it is in violation of House rule XI, a.m. have any Idea what is in here.
Resohred, That the following named Mem- clause 4(d).
So it Just is not right. If we had these
bers be, and they are hereby, elected to the
Mr. Speaker, House rule XI, clause comparatives showing the differences
following standing committees of the House 4(d) provides that, and I quote,
of what is being changed or repealed or
of Representatives:
added at least We could make some
Committee on agriculture: Mr. Smith of
Whenever the Committee on Rules reports
Michigan;
Mr. erett
and of
ama and · resolution repealing or amending any of kind of a fair judgment.
the
the rules of the House of Representatives or
I, therefore, urge that my point of
Conmmittee on Merchant Marine and Fish part thereof It shall include in its report or order be sustained.
eries: Mrs. Bentley of Maryland; and Mr. in an accompanyilng document, number one,
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does the
Taylor of North Caroliaa and Mr. the text of any part of the rules of the House gentleman from South Carolina [Mr.
Torklldsen of Massachusetts; and the
of Representatives which is proposed to be DERRICK] wish to be heard on the point
Committee on Veterans' Affairs: Mr. repealed and, number two, a comparative oforder?
Stearns of Florida; and Mr. King of New
York.
....-

The resolution was agreed to.
A motion to reconsider was laid on
the table.

print of any part of the resolution making
such an amendment. and any part of the
rules of the House of Representatlves to be

amended, showing by an appropriate typographical device the omissions and ainsertions proposed to be made.

Mr. DERRICK. Mr. Speaker, I wish to
be heard on the point of order.

The gentleman from New York [Mrs.
SOLOMON] makes the point of order
that the rule violates clause 4(D) of



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