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Chapter Title: World Real Interest Rates
Chapter Author: Robert J. Barro, Xavier Sala-i-Martin
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Robert
J. Barro
and Xavier Sala-i-Martin
HARVARD
UNIVERSITY
World
Real
Interest
Rates*
1. Introduction
This study began with the challenge to explain why real interest rates
were so high in the 1980s in the major industrialized countries. In order
to address this challenge we expanded the question to the determination
of real interest rates over a longer sample, which turned out to be 1959-
88. In considering how real interest rates were determined we focused
on the interaction between investment demand and desired saving in an
economy (ten OECD countries viewed as operating on an integrated
capital market) that was large enough to justify closed-economy assump-
tions. Within this "world" setting, high real interest rates reflect positive
shocks to investment demand (such as improvements in the expected
profitability of investment) or negative shocks to desired saving (such as
temporary reductions in world income). Our main analysis ends up
measuring the first kind of effect mainly by stock returns and the second
kind primarily by oil prices and monetary growth.
We think we have partial answers to how world real interest rates
have been determined, and, more specifically, to why real interest rates
were as high as they were in the 1980s. The key elements in the period
1981-86 appear to be favorable stock returns (which raised real interest
rates and stimulated investment) combined with high oil prices (which
also raised real interest rates, but discouraged investment).
In this paper we focus on the behavior of short-term real interest rates
since 1959 in nine OECD countries: Belgium (BE), Canada (CA), France
(FR), Germany (GE), Japan (JA), the Netherlands (NE), Sweden (SW),
the United Kingdom (UK), and the United States (US). These countries
*We are grateful for comments from Jason Barro, Olivier Blanchard, Bill Brainard, Bob
Lucas, Greg Mankiw, Larry Summers, and Andrew Warner. We appreciate the research
assistance of Casey Mulligan. The statistical analysis in this paper was carried out with
Micro TSP
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constitute the set of industrialized market economies for which we have
been able to obtain data since the late 1950s on relatively open-market
interest rates for assets that are analogous to U.S. Treasury bills. For
France and Japan, the available data are money-market rates. We were
unable to obtain satisfactory data on interest rates for Italy (IT) prior to
the early 1970s, but we included Italian data on other variables; there-
fore, parts of the analysis deal with ten OECD countries. These countries
accounted in 1960 for 65.4% of the overall real GDP for 114 market
economies, according to the PPP-adjusted data that were constructed by
Summers and Heston (1988). In 1985, the share was 63.4%. Thus, the
sample of ten countries represents a substantial fraction of the world's
real GDP.
We have concentrated thus far on short-term interest rates because of
the difficulty in measuring medium- or long-term expected inflation and,
hence, expected real interest rates. The quantification of expected infla-
tion is difficult even for short horizons, although the results in this paper
are robust to these problems. The patterns in short-term expected real
interest rates reveal a good deal of persistence; for example, the rates are
much higher for 1981-86 than for 1974-79, with the rates in the 1960s
falling in between. Given the ease with which participants in financial
markets can switch among maturities, the persisting patterns in ex-
pected real short-term rates would also be reflected in medium- and
long-term rates. Therefore, we doubt that the limitation of the present
analysis to short-term rates will be a serious drawback. We plan, how-
ever, to apply the approach also to longer-term rates.
2. Expected Inflation
and Expected
Real Interest
Rates
Investment demand and desired saving depend on expected real interest
rates. The data provide measures of nominal interest rates and realized
real rates. We could carry out the analysis with the realized real rates,
relying on a rational-expectations condition to argue that the difference
between the realized and expected real rates, which corresponds to the
negative of the difference between the actual and expected inflation rate,
involves a serially uncorrelated random error. Because the divergences
between actual and expected inflation are likely to be large in some peri-
ods, much more precise estimates could be attained by constructing rea-
sonably accurate measures of expected inflation and expected real interest
rates. Thus, we begin by estimating expected inflation rates.
We have quarterly, seasonally unadjusted data on an index of con-
sumer prices for each country beginning in 1952:1. (For the United
States, we used the CPI less shelter to avoid problems with the treat-
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ment of housing costs in the data prior to 1983.) The results reported in
this paper compute expected inflation for dates t = 1958:1 to 1989:4
based on regression forecasts for CPI inflation. (Quarter 1 represents the
annualized inflation rate from January to April, and so on.) Each regres-
sion uses data on inflation for country i from 1952:2 up to the quarter
prior to date t. That is, the data before date t are equally weighted, but
later data are not used to calculate forecasts.
The functional form for the inflation regressions is an ARMA (1,1)
with deterministic seasonals for each quarter; thus, expected inflation is
based solely on the history of inflation. We considered forms in which
inflation depended also on past values of M1 growth and nominal inter-
est rates, but the effects on the computed values of expected real interest
rates were minor. (The nature of the relation between inflation and past
monetary growth and interest rates also varied considerably across the
countries.) Within the ARMA (1,1) form, the results look broadly similar
across the nine OECD countries; typically, the estimated AR(1) coeffi-
cient is close to 0.9 and the estimated MA(1) coefficient ranges between
-0.4 and -0.8. Q-statistics for serial correlation are typically insignifi-
cant at the 5% level, although they are significant in some cases. The
pattern of seasonality varies a good deal across the countries. Appendix
Table Al shows the estimated equations that apply for the nine countries
over the sample 1952:2-1989:3.
We computed annual measures of expected inflation by averaging the
four quarterly values from the regression forecasts. Figure 1 compares
the constructed annual time series for U.S. expected inflation, 7us,t, with
values derived from the six-month-ahead forecasts from the Livingston
survey (obtained from the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia). The
two series move closely together, with a correlation of .92 from 1959 to
1988. The main discrepancies are the more rapid adjustment of the
regression-based series to actual inflation in the periods 1973-75 (when
inflation rose) and 1985-86 (when inflation fell).
We calculated expected real interest rates, t, for country i in quarter t
by subtracting the constructed value for Tie
from the corresponding nomi-
nal interest rate, Rit (The three-month Treasury bill rate in January
matches up with the expected inflation rate for January to April, and so
on.) We then formed an annual series for rit
by averaging the four quar-
terly values.
The calculated values for U.S. expected real interest rates for 1974-77
are negative and average -1.2%, whereas the values based on the Living-
ston survey average 0.1% and are negative only for 1975-77. A plausible
explanation is that the regression estimates overstate the responsiveness
of expected inflation to actual inflation in the early 1970s. Many of the
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Figure
1 EXPECTED
INFLATION
RATES
FOR
THE UNITED
STATES
60 62 64 66 68 70 72 74 76 78 80 82 84 86
other eight OECD countries exhibit negative values of i for some of the
years between 1972 and 1976, and an overstatement of die
may also explain
this behavior. (If
we had used the full sample of data to compute ~it, rather
than just the data prior to period t, the calculated sensitivity of ~it to past
inflation would have been even greater. Thus, the tendency to calculate
negative values for it between 1972 and 1976 would have been even more
pronounced.) Except for the U.K. for 1975-77 (r,UK = -.115, -.027, and
-.058, respectively), the computed negative values for r since 1959 never
exceed 2% in magnitude.1
The subsequent analysis deals with the annual time series for expected
real interest rates, t. The limitation to annual values arises because some
of the other variables are available only annually.2 In any event, the high
1. Economic theory would not rule out small negative values for expected real interest rates
on nearly risk-free assets; however, opportunities for low-risk real investments without
substantial transaction costs (including storage of durables) would preclude expected
real rates that were substantially negative. It seems likely that at least the large-
magnitude negative values for rt represent mismeasurement of expected inflation. It
would be possible to recompute dt based on the restriction that the implied value for r4
exceed some lower bound, such as zero or a negative number of small magnitude. We
have not yet proceeded along these lines.
2. The main results reported below, however, involve variables that are available quarterly.
We are presently working on the results for quarterly data.
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Table 1 SUMMARY STATISTICS
Means and Standard Deviations of Main Variables,
1959-88
Variable Mean Standard Deviation
Rwd,
t .066 .024
rrwd,
t .049 .030
rwd t .017 .024
erwa, .046 .022
wd,t .020 .015
(I/Y)wd,t .234 .013
STOCKwd,t_1 .022 .158
POIL_i1 .560 .209
DMWd,t-1 .080 .022
RDEBTYWd,t_ .341 .076
RDEFYwd,t1 .013 .017
RDEFYA, t_1 .000 .010
Own-Country
Variables
WTit ri (I/Y)it
Country mean stnd dev mean stnd dev mean stnd dev
BE .0147 .0004 .0414 .0143 .2151 .0296
CA .0433 .0019 .0283 .0206 .2279 .0137
FR .0815 .0038 .0163 .0208 .2401 .0247
GE .1002 .0038 .0311 .0197 .2444 .0304
IT .0621 .0019 .2765 .0377
JA .1315 .0305 .0199 .0190 .3183 .0422
NE .0202 .0009 .0102 .0195 .2396 .0344
SW .0131 .0010 .0178 .0243 .2222 .0286
UK .0806 .0081 .0124 .0348 .1951 .0187
US .4528 .0247 .0198 .0197 .2057 .0129
STOCKi,
t- DMi,,t
Country mean stnd dev mean stnd dev
BE -.0115 .1711 .0568 .0405
CA .0121 .1608 .0926 .0778
FR - .0125 .2322 .0974 .0427
GE .0322 .2479 .0789 .0400
IT -.0205 .2891 .1424 .0447
JA .0701 .2095 .1266 .0780
NE .0096 .2114 .0813 .0429
SW .0405 .2038 .0843 .0495
UK .0239 .2928 .0913 .0676
US .0178 .1715 .0570 .0315
Note: See Table
A2 for definitions and sources of the variables.
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serial correlation in the quarterly series on ri suggests that we may not
lose a lot of information by confining ourselves to the annual observa-
tions. The use of annual data means also that we do not have to deal
with possible seasonal variations in expected real interest rates.
We constructed a world index of a variable for year t by weighting the
value for country i in year t by the share of that country's real GDP for
year t in the aggregate real GDP of the nine- or ten-country sample.
(Henceforth, "world" signifies the aggregate of the nine- or ten-country
OECD sample.) In computing the weights, we used the PPP-adjusted
numbers for real GDP reported by Summers and Heston (1988). (For
1986-89, we used the shares for 1985, the final year of their data set.)
None of our results changed significantly if we weighted instead by
shares in world investment. Table 1 shows the average of each country's
Summers-Heston GDP weight (WT) from 1959 to 1988. Note that the
average share for the United States was .45, that for Japan was .13, and
so on. (In 1985, the U.S. share was .44 and the Japanese was .17.)
Figure 2 shows the world values (nine-country sample excluding Italy)
for actual and expected inflation from 1959 to 1989. (Because we had data
on actual inflation for some countries only up to the third quarter of
1989, the value for actual inflation in 1989 is missing.) Expected and
Figure
2 WORLD ACTUAL
AND EXPECTED INFLATION RATES
0.125
60 62 64 66 68 70 72 74 76 78 80 82 84 86 88
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Interest Rates ?
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actual inflation move together in a broad sense, but the expected values
lag behind the increases in inflation in 1969, 1972-74, and 1979-80, and
behind the decreases in 1982 and 1986. Figure 3 shows the correspond-
ing values for world actual and expected real interest rates. Although the
two series move broadly together, a notable discrepancy is the excess of
expected over actual real interest rates for 1972-74. The actual rates are
negative over this period (averaging -2.3%), but the computed expected
rates are positive (averaging 1.1%).
Figure 4 shows the breakdown of the world nominal interest rate into
two components: the world expected inflation rate and the world ex-
pected real interest rate. The graph makes clear that the bulk of varia-
tions in nominal interest rates correspond to movements in expected
inflation; the correlation between the nominal interest rate and the ex-
pected inflation rate is .79, whereas that between the.nominal rate and
the expected real interest rate is .44 (The correlation of the nominal
interest rate with actual inflation is .62, whereas that with the actual real
interest rate is .24.)
Many authors have argued that expected real interest rates among
OECD countries differ significantly in terms of levels and time patterns
(see, for example, Mishkin 1984). Although our findings do not dispute
Figure
3 WORLD
ACTUAL
AND EXPECTED
REAL
INTEREST RATES
70 72 74 76 78 80 82 84 86 88
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Figure
4 WORLD NOMINAL
AND EXPECTED REAL INTEREST
RATES
AND
EXPECTED
INFLATION
0.150
0.125 -
Nominal interest rate -
0.100 -
0.075 - - xxxx
.,. / \/ .
0 /
2\ /
'<-- Expected real
0.000_- '
,, interest rate
-0.025 , , I , , i ,
60 62 64 66 68 70 72 74 76 78 80 82 84 86 88
this conclusion, we think nevertheless that a study of the movements
of real interest rates in the main OECD countries can usefully start by
attempting to explain the common elements across the countries. (Blan-
chard and Summers 1984 take a similar view.) The comparison of U.S.
behavior with that of the other countries in Figure 5 suggests that the
common factors are worth investigating. The U.S. expected real interest
rate moved similarly to the average for the other eight countries; the
correlation from 1959 to 1989 was .73.
A simple way to summarize the overall movements of the expected
and actual real interest rates, id,t and rw,,, is to consider the means of the
two variables from Figure 3 over various subperiods. The average values
for rd,t (rwd,t)
were 2.0% (1.8%) for 1959-70, 1.2% (-1.0%) for 1971-73,
0.0% (-1.0%) for 1974-79, 2.4% (1.8%) for 1980, 4.2% (5.3%) for 1981-
86, 2.3% (2.8%) for 1987-88, and 3.5% (3.4%) for 1989. These data sug-
gest that it is meaningful to ask why expected and actual real interest
rates were high in the early 1980s.3 In our analysis of the full-time series
3. The rates for 1981-86 would not look so high in a historical context from before World
War
II. Barro (1989, p. 242) shows that U.S. realized real interest rates on assets compara-
ble to prime commercial paper averaged about 8% from 1840 to 1900 (excluding the Civil
War), 3% from 1900 to 1916, and 5% from 1920 to 1940.
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Figure
5 EXPECTED
REAL INTEREST
RATES FOR
THE
UNITED
STATES
AND
EIGHT
OTHER
OECD COUNTRIES
0.06 -
0.05 -
0.04 - A \
0.03-
0.00- I
I
-0.01- .S.
-->' /
-0.02- -
-0.03 ,, ., , ,, , ,,,
60 62 64 66 68 70 72 74 76 78 80 82 84 86 88
since 1959, we add the questions of why the movements in rates were
relatively moderate from 1959 until the early 1970s, why the rates were
so low in the middle and late 1970s, and why the rates fell after 1986 and
rose in 1989.
3. A Model
of
Investment
Demand and
Desired
Saving
We think of "the" world expected real interest rate, r-,, as determined by
the equation in period t of world investment demand to world desired
saving. This setting applies to the ten-country OECD sample if, first,
these countries operated throughout the sample on integrated capital
and goods markets, and second, if the ten countries approximate the
world, and hence a closed economy. We get some insight later about the
integration of world markets by analyzing the extent to which real inter-
est rates in individual countries respond to own-country variables rather
than world variables. The approximation that the ten countries repre-
sent the world and hence a closed economy may be tenable, first, be-
cause these countries constitute about 65% of the world's real GDP (for
market economies), and second, because the observed current-account
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balance for the ten-country aggregate has been very small. We added up
each country's nominal current-account balance (expressed via current
exchange rates in terms of U.S. dollars) from 1960 to 1987 and divided by
the total nominal GDP (also converted by exchange rates into U.S. dol-
lars). The average value of the ratio of the aggregated current-account
balance to overall GDP was 0.1%. Moreover, the largest value from 1960
to 1987 (1971) was only 0.5% and the smallest (1984) was only -0.7%.
We now construct a simple model of investment demand and desired
saving. Although this model is used to interpret some of the empirical
findings, the general nature of the reduced-form results does not depend
on this particular framework. Hence, readers who are unimpressed by
our theory may nevertheless be interested in the empirical evidence.
We measure real investment, It, by gross domestic capital formation
(private plus public, nonresidential plus residential, fixed plus changes
in stocks). Thus, It excludes purchases of consumer durables and expen-
ditures on human capital. Investment demand, expressed as a ratio to
GDP, is determined by a q-type variable:
(IIY)t
= ao + a,1 log[PROF7/(r?+p,)]
+ u, (1)
where PROF' is expected profitability per unit of capital, r< is the ex-
pected real interest rate on assets like Treasury bills, Pt
is a risk premium,
and a1>0. The error term ut
is likely to be highly persistent because, first,
time-to-build considerations imply that current investment demand de-
pends on lagged variables that influenced past investment decisions,
and second, there may be permanent shifts in the nature of adjustment
costs, which determine the relation between investment demand and
the q variable. In first-difference form, equation (1) becomes
(I/Y)t
= a,
' Alog[PROFt/(+pt)] + (I/Y)t_1
+ Ut-Ut-1. (2)
Our analysis treats the error term, ut-ut_ , as roughly white noise.
We use the world real rate of return on the stock market through
December of the previous year STOCKt_i,
to proxy for the first difference
of the q variable, Alog[PROF/(<+pt)].4 This proxying is imperfect because
4. The stock-return
variable
for each country is the nominal rate of return
for the year
implied by the IFS December index for industrial-share prices less the December-to-
December inflation rate based on the consumer price index. We had broader stock-
return measures readily available for three countries-Canada, the United Kingdom,
and the United States-which together comprised 57% on average of the ten-country
GDP. The substitution of these numbers for the IFS values had a negligible impact on the
regression results we report later. We took this result as an indication that the IFS data
are probably satisfactory indicators of stock-market returns.
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of distinctions between average and marginal q,5 because of failure to
adjust for changes in the market value of bonds and depreciation of
capital stocks, and because the stock market values only a portion of the
capital that relates to our measure of investment. (The investment num-
bers include residential construction, noncorporate business invest-
ment, and public investment.) For these reasons, the best estimate of
Alog[PROFI/(re+pt)] would depend inversely on the change in rt, for a
given value of STOCKt_
.6 Therefore, we approximate the relation for
investment demand as
(IIY)t = ao + a1 *
STOCKt,1 - a, (r~-_1) + (I/Y)t_ + vt (3)
where a1>0 and a2>0.7
We assume that the desired saving rate (for the world aggregate of
national saving) is given by
(S/Y), = o + Pl(Y/Y)t + 32r~
+
+3 *
(S/Y)t-1 + error term (4)
where Yt
is current temporary income, the 3i's
are positive, and the error
term is treated as white noise. Equation (4) adopts the permanent-
income perspective in assuming that permanent changes in income do
not have important effects on the saving rate. Temporary changes in
income have little effect on consumer demand and therefore have a
positive effect on the desired saving rate, as given by the coefficient ,1.
Given the temporary-income ratio, (Y/Y)t,
the saving rate would respond
positively to r' in accordance with the coefficient /2. The variable (S/Y)t_
picks up persisting influences on the saving rate. It turns out in our
empirical estimation that 0<33<1 applies; that is, the desired saving rate
appears to exhibit less persistence than the investment-demand ratio,
which has a unitary coefficient on the lagged dependent variable in
equation (3).
We considered using measures of temporary government purchases,
5. See Hayashi (1982) for a discussion, in particular, of the adjustments of marginal q for tax
effects.
6. Let STOCKt = Alog(qt) + et, where qt = [PROFt(t+pt] and et can be interpreted as a
measurement error. Assume that the prior distribution is given by Alog(qt)
= et, that 4r
is
observed without error, and that no direct information about Pt is available. Then the
posterior estimate of Alog(qt)
gives weights to STOCKt
and (as a linear approximation) to
-rt_l, where the weight on -
t-_ rises with VAR(e)/AR(E). (Independent measure-
ment error in 4t
would lower the weight applied to 4-et-_). Our analysis uses data on
stock returns only through December of the previous year (and thereby avoids some
simultaneity problems). The omission of contemporaneous data on stock returns raises
VAR(e)
and thereby raises the weight applied to t-rte,.
7. The term (t-rte_ ) is approximately linear if pt >> applies.
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especially defense expenditures, as influences on temporary income and
hence desired national saving rates. Up to this point, however, we have
been unable to isolate important temporary variations in the ratios of
real government purchases to real GDP over the period since 1959 for
the ten OECD countries we are studying.
We have had more success by thinking of the relative price of oil as an
indicator of world temporary income. Higher oil prices are bad for oil
importers, which predominate in the ten-country OECD sample. Be-
cause higher oil prices tend to reflect more effective cartelization of the
market for oil, an increase in prices also represents a global distortion
that is bad for the world as a whole. Moreover, high oil prices may be a
signal of disruption of international markets in a sense that goes beyond
oil; therefore, the effects on world income may be substantially greater
than those attributable to oil, per se.
Our subsequent analysis of real interest rates provides some indica-
tion that the level of the relative price of oil, rather than the change in
this relative price, is the variable that proxies for temporary income. This
result is reasonable if the relative price of oil is perceived to be stationary;
in this case, a high level for the current relative price signals a temporar-
ily high level. In the actual time series, the relative price of oil did
happen to return after 1985 to values close to those applying before 1973.
But our direct analysis of the time-series properties of the relative oil
price is inconclusive about stationarity.8
The empirical analysis uses the variable POILt,_, which is the relative
price of crude petroleum for December of the previous year from the
U.S. producer price index. The results do not change significantly if we
use instead a weighted average of relative petroleum prices for each
country. The precise concepts for these prices varied across the countries
and the data for some countries were unavailable for parts of the sample.
For these reasons, we used the U.S. variable in the main analysis.9
Thinking of POILt_1
as an inverse measure of the temporary income
ratio, (Y/Y)t,
the equation for the saving rate becomes
(S/Y)t = bo
- bi *
POILt - + b2 r + b3 (S/Y)t 1 + error term (5)
8. Even if the relative price of oil is nonstationary, the consequences of a change in the price
of oil for world income are likely to be partly transitory. In particular, the effects on
income would tend to diminish as methods of production adjusted to the new configura-
tion of relative prices.
9. The results are also similar if we use the dollar price for Venezuelan crude instead of the
U.S. PPI for crude petroleum. (The Saudi Arabian price is very close to the Venezuelan
price, but the IFS does not report the Saudi Arabian values after 1984.) The main
difference between the Venezuelan and U.S. series is that the Venezuelan one shows a
much larger proportionate increase in 1973.
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where the bi's are positive. We assume that, given the stock return,
STOCKt_,,
the variable POILt_,
does not shift investment demand in equa-
tion (2). That is, at least the main effects of oil prices on investment
demand are assumed to be captured by the stock-market variable. With
this interpretation, the variable POILt, represents a shift to desired sav-
ing that is not simultaneously a shift to investment demand.
We also assume that the stock-market return, STOCKt_l,
has primarily
permanent effects on income; that is, we neglect effects on the tempo-
rary income ratio, (Y/Y)t, and thereby on desired saving in equation (4).
Given this assumption, the variable STOCKt_,
reflects a shift to invest-
ment demand that is not simultaneously a shift to desired saving. In
other words, the variables STOCKt_1
and POILt_1
will allow us to identify
the relations for investment demand and desired saving.
We might be able to quantify the interplay between stock returns and
temporary income by using measures of current profitability, such as
aftertax corporate profits. That is, we could estimate the implications of
stock returns for the part of temporary income that relates to the differ-
ence between current and expected future profitability. We have thus far
been unsuccessful in obtaining satisfactory measures of corporate profits
for some of the countries in the sample, and therefore have not yet
implemented this idea. (The main data series available from the OECD,
called "operating surplus," is an aggregate that is much broader than
corporate profits.) The limited data we have indicate that current stock
returns or other variables lack significant predictive content for future
changes in the ratio of corporate profits to GDP. It may, therefore, be
roughly correct that stock returns have little interplay with the tempo-
rary income that corresponds to gaps between current and expected
future corporate profits.
We now extend the analysis to consider the effects of monetary and
fiscal variables. We think of these variables as possible influences on the
desired saving rate in equation (4). In some models where money is
nonneutral-such as Keynesian models with sticky prices or wages-a
higher rate of monetary expansion raises temporary income and thereby
increases the desired saving rate.10
With respect to fiscal variables, many
economists (such as Blanchard 1985) argue that increases in public debt
or prospective budget deficits reduce desired national saving rates.
Let DMt_1
be a measure of monetary expansion and Ft_-
be a measure of
10. In the analysis
of Mundell
(1971),
higher monetary
expansion
leads to higher
expected
inflation and thereby
to a lower real demand for money. The reduction
in real
money
balances is assumed to lead to a decrease in consumer demand and hence to an
increase
in the desired saving rate. Tobin
(1965)
gets an increase in the desired
saving
rate
in a similar manner.
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fiscal expansion, each applying up to the end of year t- 1. Then we can
expand the relation for the desired saving rate from equation (5) to
(S/Y), = bo - b, *
POILt,_ + b2re + b3(S/Y)t_, + b4DMt-_ - bFt,_, + et. (6)
The coefficients are defined so that bi > 0 applies in the theoretical
arguments discussed above.
Given our closed-economy assumption (for the ten-country OECD
sample), r' is determined by equating the investment-demand ratio,
(IIY)t
from equation (3), to the desired saving rate, (S/Y)t
from equation
(6). The reduced-form relations for r' and (I/Y)t
are as follows:
rt = b)[a0-b0 + a, *
STOCKt, + b, POILt_1
+ a2
' rt1
(a2+b2)
+ (1-b3) . (I/Y)t_ - b * DMt 1 + b5 Ft-, + vt - e,]. (7)
1
(IIY)t
= *
[a b2+ + ab a1b2
*
STOCKt-,
- a2b1,
POILt, + a2b2
* 1
(a2+b2)
+ (b2+a2b3)
(IIY),_ + a2b4 DM,t- - a2b5
Ft- + a2et
+ b2vt. (8)
The reduced form of the model in equations (7) and (8) implies the
following:
1. Higher stock returns, STOCKt 1, raise r\ and (I/Y)t,
2. Higher oil prices, POIL,_ , raise ri but lower (I/Y)t,
3. Higher monetary growth, DMt_ , lowers ri and raises (IIY)t
(in models
where monetary expansion stimulates desired saving),
4. Greater fiscal expansion, Ft,,, raises ri and lowers (IIY)t
(in models
where fiscal expansion reduces desired national saving).
Two additional implications that concern lagged dependent variables are
more dependent on the dynamic effects built into the model structure:
5. The lagged value ri-, has positive effects on ri and (IIY), (because,
holding fixed the other variables including (IIY)t_
, a higher ft_,
effec-
tively shifts up investment demand).
6. The lagged value (I/Y)t_1
has a positive effect on (IIY)t
because of the
persistence built into investment demand and desired saving. The
effect on re is positive if the persistence in investment demand is
greater than that in desired saving; that is, if b3<l.
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Figure
6 WORLD
RATIO OF REAL INVESTMENT
TO REAL
GDP
0.27
0.26 -
0.25-
0.24 -
0.23 -
0.22 -
0.21-
0.20 ,
, , ,
, ,
60 62 64 66 68 70 72 74 76 78 80 82 84 86 88
4. Empirical
Analysis
of Expected
Real Interest Rates
and
Investment Ratios
Table 1 contains means and standard deviations for the main variables
used in the analysis. Table A2 in the Appendix has definitions and
sources for the variables. The world ratio of real investment (gross do-
mestic capital formation) to real GDP appears in Figure 6. We use figures
on gross investment because the data on depreciation are likely to be
unreliable. As with the other world measures, the investment ratio is the
GDP-weighted value of the numbers from the ten OECD countries.
World real stock returns (December-to-December) are in Figure 7, the
December values for the relative price of oil are in Figure 8, and world
growth rates of M1 (December-to-December) are in Figure 9.
Figures 10-13 show various measures of fiscal stance. Figure 10 plots
the ratios of real central government debt to real GDP for the United
States and the nine other OECD countries.1 (We presently lack data for
11. We lack data on debt for consolidated general government on a consistent basis for the
ten countries in the sample. The figures that we used, which were computed in most
cases from IFS numbers on the par value of the aggregate of domestic and foreign debt
for central governments, are gross of holdings by central banks, certain government
agencies, and local governments.
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Figure
7 WORLD
REAL STOCK
RETURNS
0.4
0.3 -
0.2-
0.1
0.0-
-0.1 -
-0.2-
-0.3-
-0.4 -
-0.5 ,,,, ,,,
1950 1955 1960 1965 1970 1975 1980 1985
Figure
8 RELATIVE PRICE OF CRUDE PETROLEUM
(U.S. PPI)
1.1
1.0-
0.9-
0.8-
0.7-
0.6-
0.5- /
0.4 -~~
0
.3-
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
1950 1955 1960 1965 1970 1975 1980 1985
World Real
Interest Rates
*
31
Figure
9 WORLD GROWTH
RATE
OF
M1
1988 on the debt of some of the countries.) Note that the pattern for the
United States is broadly similar to that for the average of the other
countries. Note also that the U.S. debt-GDP ratio peaked in 1987 and fell
in 1988.
We define the real budget deficit to be the change during the year in
the central government's outstanding real debt. Figure 11 shows world
values for this concept of the real budget deficit when expressed as a
ratio to real GDP. We plot the actual and cyclically adjusted values of the
ratio. The cyclically adjusted values are the residuals from a regression
for each country over 1958-87 of the real deficit-real GDP ratio on the
current and four annual lags of the growth rate of real GDP.
Figures 12 and 13 compare the U.S. ratios for real budget deficits to
real GDP with those for the nine other countries. Figure 12, which plots
ratios for actual real budget deficits, shows that the recent U.S. experi-
ence did not depart greatly from that for the average of the other nine
countries. Figure 13 shows, however, that recent values for the cyclically
adjusted U.S. ratios were substantially higher than those for the average
of the other nine countries. But the adjusted U.S. ratio fell from 4.0% in
1986 to 1.9% in 1987 and 1.0% in 1988.
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Figure 10 RATIOS OF REAL
GOVERNMENT
DEBT
TO REAL
GDP FOR
THE
UNITED STATES AND NINE OTHER OECD COUNTRIES
I
0.20 - I I
I, I , I
I,I
. I, ,, ,, ,
I, I I I
,
58 60 62 64 66 68 70 72 74 76 78 80 82 84 86 88
Figure
11 WORLD
RATIOS
OF REAL
BUDGET DEFICITS TO REAL GDP
0.05
World Real Interest Rates
. 33
Figure
12 RATIOS OF REAL BUDGET
DEFICITS
TO REAL
GDP
FOR
THE
UNITED
STATES
AND NINE OTHER OECD
COUNTRIES
58 60 62 64 66 68 70 72 74 76 78 80 82 84 86 88
5. Reduced-Form Estimates
for
the World
Expected
Real
Interest Rate
We begin the empirical analysis with reduced-form equations for the
world (nine-country) expected real interest rate, ,t, over the period 1959
to 1988. Table 2, column 1, shows a regression of the form of equation
(7), but with monetary and fiscal variables excluded. The estimated coef-
ficients of STOCKd,
t_ (.041, s.e. = .011) and POILt_1
(.029, s.e. = .009) are
each positive and significant, with t-values of 3.7 and 3.1, respectively.
Not surprisingly, the estimated coefficient of td,t-1 is also positive and
highly significant (.58, s.e. = .10). The estimated coefficient of (I/Y)d t-_1
is
positive (.22, s.e. = .15), but not statistically significant at the 5% level.
Table 2, column 2 adds the monetary variable, DMd, t-, which is the
GDP-weighted average of world M1 growth through December of the
previous year.12
We were surprised to find that DMWdt 1 entered nega-
12. We also examined the growth rates of currency and nominal GNP as alternative mea-
sures of monetary stimulus. If the growth rate of currency through the end of year t- 1 is
added to the basic regression from Table 2, column 2 (which includes M1 growth for year
t-1), the estimated coefficient of the new variable is insignificant and the other results
change little. If the growth rate of world nominal GDP for year t- 1 is added to the basic
regression, the estimated coefficient of the new variable is -.167, s.e. = .093, t-value =
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Figure
13 CYCLICALLY
ADJUSTED
RATIOS OF REAL
BUDGET DEFICITS
TO
REAL
GDP FOR THE UNITED
STATES AND NINE OTHER
OECD
COUNTRIES
0.05
0.04 -
0.03 -
0.02 -
0.01- /
= /
\/ \V ?
/< 9 OECD
-
''
-0.03-, ,, ,, ,, , , ,, , ,
I , , , , ,
58 60 62 64 66 68 70 72 74 76 78 80 82 84 86 88
tively and significantly in the regression for r,t (-.251, s.e. = .054,
t-value = 4.7). (We were surprised because previous research suggested
difficulty in isolating these kinds of monetary effects; see, for example,
Barro 1981.) Moreover, when DMWd,t1
is added to the regression, the
estimated coefficients for the other variables become more significant:
the t-values are now 6.7 for STOCKwd,
t_ (.064, s.e. = .009)13
and 5.5 for
POILt-_
(.039, s.e. = .007).14
The estimated coefficient of (IlY)wdt-1 also
becomes significantly positive (.49, s.e. = .12), with a t-value of 3.9.
1.8. The other results change little; in particular, the estimated coefficient of DMw,d
t- is
-.250, s.e. = .051, which is virtually unchanged from that shown in Table 2, column 2.
(The world growth rates of Ml and nominal GDP are essentially orthogonal.) The nearly
significant negative coefficient on the lag of nominal GDP growth may indicate that
exogenous shifts in velocity have negative effects on expected real interest rates.
13. The estimated coefficient of STOCKw,
t-l changes little if the individual stock returns are
weighted by each country's share of world investment, rather than GDP. With invest-
ment weights, the estimated coefficient of STOCK
wd,t_1
is .060, s.e. = .010.
14. If we add the second lag value, POILt_2,
the estimated coefficient is -.023, s.e. = .020.
The hypothesis that only the change in the relative price of oil, POILt_l-POILt_2, matters
is rejected at the 5% level (t-value = 2.7). If we replace the U.S. relative price of oil by a
GDP-weighted average of individual country relative prices, the estimated coefficient of
POILt_L
becomes .042, s.e. = .010 (and the R2
of the regression falls from .892 to .875).
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Real Interest Rates - 35
Table
2 REGRESSIONS
FOR
WORLD EXPECTED REAL
INTEREST RATE
(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7)
Constant
(.
STOCKWd,t_1 (.
POIL,t_ (.
(I/Y)wd,t-l
r (-
M
.dt-1
--RDEBT,t-i
RDEBTYw,t-
RDEFYWd,t-1
RDEFYAWd,t-_
e
'7rwd,
t-
1_
.79
.0074
1.4
R2
DW
059 -.107 -.129
038) (.030) (.048)
041 .064 .063
011) (.009) (.009)
029 .039 .050
009) (.007) (.010)
220 .487 .502
150) (.124) (.173)
581 .518 .471
101) (.075) (.092)
- -.251 -.168
(.054) (.070)
- .029
(.026)
- - .191
(.118)
.89
.0054
1.8
.91
.0053
1.8
Note:
Standard
errors are in parentheses.
a is the standard error
of estimate
(adjusted
for degrees of
freedom)
and DW is the Durbin-Watson Statistic. The
dependent
variable
in columns
1-4, 6,7 is r4,t. In
column
5 it is the nominal
interest
rate,
Rwd,t.
The
sample period
is 1959-88
in columns
1-5. It is 1959-72
in column
6 and 1973-88
in column
7.
It is possible that the apparent effect of M1 growth represents some
kind of endogenous response of money to the economy, rather than the
influence of exogenous monetary growth on real interest rates. Our
failure in the next section to find the predicted positive relation between
DMwd,t- and the investment ratio, (I/Y)t,
may support alternative interpre-
tations based on endogenous money. We carried out some analysis of
monetary reaction functions; these results indicate a negative response
of monetary growth to oil prices and stock returns, but not to lags of
expected real interest rates or investment ratios. (DMwd t is itself serially
uncorrelated; see Fig. 9.) Because we already held fixed the stock market
and oil prices in the regression for 4rd,,
we do not see how our findings
about monetary reaction can explain the relation between DMwd,t- and
wd,t based on a story about endogenous money. Monetary growth would
-.137
(.050)
.063
(.010)
.044
(.009)
.577
(.177)
.476
(.099)
-.240
(.063)
.021
(.027)
-.130
(.035)
.061
(.010)
.050
(.011
.585
(.148)
.433
(.103)
-.239
(.054)
.894
(.088)
.96
.0054
1.8
-.044
(.305)
.047
(.028)
-.062
(.418)
.418
(.629)
.277
(.386)
-.240
(.132)
.63
.0057
1.2
-.131
(.052)
.064
(.014)
.047
(.013)
.555
(.196)
.510
(.103)
-.212
(.106)
.93
.0063
2.0
(.145)
.89
.0056
1.8
-n15.
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have to be reflecting information about future real interest rates not
already contained in the other explanatory variables.
The explanatory power of DMWdt_- for wd,t reflects in part the well-
known cutback in world M1 growth in 1979 and 1980 (6.8% and 5.3%,
respectively, compared with a mean of 8.0% for 1959-88). This monetary
contraction matches up well with the increase in r,d, from 0.9% in 1979 to
2.4% in 1980 and 4.7% in 1981. (With the monetary variable excluded in
Table 2, column 1, the fitted values of ed,t for 1980 and 1981 are 2.0% and
3.4%, respectively. With the monetary variable included in column 2,
these fitted values become 2.5% and 4.4%.) The significance of DM,d, t_
in the regression for red,
, however, does not depend on the inclusion of
the observations for 1980-81. If these two years are omitted, the esti-
mated coefficient of DMwd,t-1 becomes -.233, s.e. = .066, and the other
results do not change much from those shown in column 2.
We have carried out the estimation using the realized real interest rate,
rwd,, rather than our constructed measure of the expected rate, wd
t. The
error term in the regression can then be viewed as including the discrep-
ancy between the actual and expected real rate. Under rational expecta-
tions, this expectational error would be independent of the explanatory
variables, which are all lagged values. The estimates would therefore be
consistent, but inefficient relative to a situation where rd,t is observed
directly and used as the dependent variable. Although the standard
errors of the estimated coefficients are substantially higher when rw,
replaces 4d,t as the dependent variable, the basic pattern of the results
remains the same. Thus, the findings do not depend on our particular
measure for expected inflation.
Overall, the regression equation in Table 2, column 2 does a remark-
able job of explaining the variations in expected real interest rates from
1959 to 1988; see Figure 14 for a plot of actual values against fitted values
and residuals. Note that the out-of-sample forecast of rd,t for 1989 is 3.2%
compared to an actual of 3.5%; for 1988, the estimated value was 1.9%
and the actual was 2.3%. (We promise that we generated the forecast for
1989 before finding the data on the actual value.)
We will discuss more features of the results later, but some key ele-
ments for the 1980s are the generally favorable stock-market returns
combined with high oil prices. (Blanchard and Summers 1984, argue that
improved prospects for profitability-which we pick up in the stock-
market returns-were an important element in the high real interest
rates of the 1980s.) The experience for the 1980s contrasts with the ex-
tremely poor stock returns and lower oil prices that prevailed in the mid-
1970s. The 1960s featured still lower oil prices, but better stock returns
than in the mid-1970s.
World
Real Interest
Rates *
37
Figure
14 ACTUAL & FITTED VALUES
& RESIDUALS FOR WORLD
EXPECTED REAL INTEREST
RATE
(TABLE
2, COL.
2)
0.05
= Actual value f -0.04
= Fitted value -> / '
\
(right scale) / ' 0.03
'8 /^
^/~' I A
^ o.o2
.t' - ',s. .
/** / -0.01
0.015- \
,'00 -0-00
/0.010 y,
--0
0.005 - / A /\ -0.02
0.000
-0.005 -
-0.010- Residuals (left scale) -->
-0 .015 , I, I,
I, , , , , , ,
60 62 64 66 68 70 72 74 76 78 80 82 84 86 88
Columns 3 and 4 of Table 2 add fiscal variables to the regression for
wd,t. Column 3 shows a positive but insignificant coefficient on the world
debt-GDP ratio, RDEBTYW,t-, and a negative but insignificant coeffi-
cient on the world ratio of real budget deficits to real GDP, RDEFYd, t-.15
The F-statistic for the inclusion of the two fiscal variables jointly is F2 =
1.6 (5% critical value = 3.4). Column 4 replaces RDEFYd,t 1 with the
cyclically adjusted variable, RDEFYAd, t-. The adjustment of real deficits
for cyclical factors would be desirable in the present context if the re-
moval of these factors raises the forecasting power for future ratios of
real deficits to real GDP. The estimated coefficient on RDEFYAWdt
_ is
close to zero, and that on RDEBTYWd
_1 remains positive but insignificant.
The F-statistic for the inclusion of the two fiscal variables is now only F2
=0.3.
The real budget deficit is effectively an adjustment of the nominal
deficit for the effect of actual inflation on the outstanding nominal debt.
An adjustment for expected rather than actual inflation is likely to be
preferable from the standpoint of forecasting future real budget deficits
(because unexpected inflation is unpredictable). We calculated ratios of
15. Negative estimated effects of budget-deficit
variables
on interest rates were reported
previously by Evans
(1987) (for
nominal rates
in six OECD
countries)
and Plosser
(1987)
(for
nominal and real rates
in the United
States).
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real budget deficits to real GDP (adjusted or unadjusted for cyclical
fluctuations) in this manner, but the results differed negligibly from
those found with actual inflation.
We also held fixed the ratio of government consumption purchases to
GDP (which entered insignificantly) and experimented with the inclu-
sion of current or future real budget deficits. In all cases we obtained
similar results; the measures of fiscal stance that we have considered do
not help significantly in explaining the time series for expected real
interest rates. We are forced to conclude that the evidence supports the
Ricardian view, which deemphasizes the roles of public debt and budget
deficits in the determination of real interest rates.
Column 5 in Table 2 uses the world nominal interest rate, R, t, as the
dependent variable and adds the constructed measure of world expected
inflation, Td,
, on the right side. Measurement error
in 7ed,t would bias the
estimated coefficient toward zero, but the estimated value (.89, s.e. =
.09) differs insignificantly from one. Of course, to the extent that coun-
tries levy taxes on nominal interest payments, the predicted coefficient
would be somewhat above unity.
We tested for the stability of the relation between 4d,t and the explana-
tory variables by estimating the specification from Table 2, column 2
separately for 1959-72 and 1973-88. Thus, we split the sample before the
oil crises and the main changes in the international monetary system.
The estimates for the two subperiods appear in columns 6 and 7 of the
table. The test for stability leads to the statistic F18 = 0.2; thus, we do not
reject the hypothesis that the same equation applies over both periods.
To some extent, the failure to reject reflects the high standard errors that
apply to the estimated coefficients for 1959-72 (column 6). For example,
the standard error for the estimated coefficient of POILt_ is enormous
because of the small variations in relative oil prices from 1958 to 1971 (see
Fig. 8).16
The data for 1959-72, however, do generate marginally signifi-
cant estimated coefficients on STOCKd,
t_ (.047, s.e. = .028) and DMWdt,,-
(-.240, s.e. = .132).
6. Reduced-Form Estimates
for
World Investment Ratio
We now consider the reduced form for the investment ratio in equation
(8). Table 3 shows regressions over 1959-88 for the world ratio of real
16. The estimated coefficient of POILt_, differs insignificantly from zero for samples that
begin in 1959 and end as recently as 1979; for the 1959-79 sample, the estimated
coefficient is -.003, s.e. = .034. If the sample ends in 1980, the estimated coefficient
becomes .029, s.e. = .018. For samples that end between 1981 and 1988, the estimated
coefficient is very stable, varying between .038 and .040 with a standard error between
.007 and .010.
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39
Table
3. REGRESSIONS FOR WORLD
INVESTMENT
RATIO
(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6)
Constant .053 .057 .066 .076 -.016 .133
(.031) (.033) (.051) (.051) (.125) (.059)
STOCKwd,t-1 .036 .034 .034 .031 .018 .045
(.009) (.011) (.010) (.010) (.011) (.016)
POILt_1 -.016 -.017 -.030 -.020 .077 -.033
(.008) (.008) (.010) (.009) (.172) (.015)
(I/Y)wd,t- .814 .791 .848 .770 .92 .57
(.122) (.139) (.183) (.181) (.26) (.23)
wd,t- -.005 .000 .037 -.011 .043 -.057
(.082) (.085) (.097) (.101) (.158) (.118)
DMwd,t- .022 -.104 -.049 .064 -.127
(.060) (.075) (.064) (.054) (.122)
RDEBTYw,t-1 - -.029 -.021
(.027) (.027)
RDEFYwd,tl .306
(.125)
RDEFYAWd,t_1 .331
(.148)
R2 .82 .82 .86 .86 .97 .82
& .0060 .0061 .0056 .0057 .0023 .0073
DW 1.6 1.7 1.9 1.8 1.5 1.7
Note:
The
dependent
variable is (I/Y)wd,.
The sample period
in columns
1-4 is 1959-88. It is 1959-72 in
column 5 and 1973-88
in column 6.
investment to real GDP, (I/Y)d,t. The explanatory variables in these equa-
tions are the same as those used in Table 2. In the regression shown in
Table 3, column 2, the main results are a significantly positive effect from
STOCKWdt,_
(.034, s.e. = .011),17 a significantly negative effect from
POILt_1
(-.017, s.e. = .008), and a significantly positive effect from the
lagged dependent variable (I/Y)wd,
t- (.79, s.e. = .14). The estimated coeffi-
cients of rd,t-1 (.00, s.e. = .08) and DMWd,t- (.022, s.e. = .060) are insignifi-
cant. Figure 15 plots the actual values for (I/Y)Wdt
along with the esti-
mated values and residuals.
The results on the world investment ratio are consistent with the
hypothesis that more favorable stock returns raise investment (along
with raising real interest rates) and that higher oil prices reduce invest-
ment (along with increasing real interest rates). On the other hand,
although we found before that the expected real interest rate was nega-
17. Previous results of a similar nature for the United States were reported by Fama (1981).
Barro (1990) reports analogous findings for the United States and Canada.
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Figure
15 ACTUAL & FITTED
VALUES & RESIDUALS
FOR WORLD RATIO
OF INVESTMENT TO GDP (TABLE
3, COL.
2)
0.27
A$~ -~ ~
~-0.26
X\ - / t-0.25
- Actual value -0.23
0.02 X,* * =- Fitted value --> -.' \23 - 0.2
esidual
(lefright
scale) -->0.22
0.01- -0.20
-0.02 ,
60 62 64 66 68 7
772 74 76 78 80 82 84 86 88
tively related to last year's monetary growth, the results do not reveal
the expected positive response of the investment ratio.
Columns 3 and 4 of Table 3 add the fiscal variables that we considered
before; column 3 uses the world variable for ratios of real budget deficits
to real GDP, and column 4 the variable for cyclically adjusted ratios. The
estimated effect of the debt-GDP ratio, RDEBTYwd,t , is negative but
insignificant in both cases. The estimated effects of the budget-deficit
variables, RDEFYd,t-1 and RDEFYAwd,t_, are each significantly positive-
that is, the sign opposite to that predicted by models where fiscal expan-
sion lowers the desired national saving rate. The positive effect for the
unadjusted variable, RDEFYd,,_,, accords with the negative coefficient
for this variable in the interest-rate equation (Table 2, column 3). How-
ever, the cyclically adjusted variable, RDEFYAwd,
-, had a coefficient of
about zero in the interest-rate equation (Table 2, column 4). The fiscal
variables considered are jointly insignificant for the investment ratio at
the 5% level. In the regression shown in Table 3, column 3, the statistic is
F2 = 3.2 (5%
critical value = 3.4); for that in column 4, the statistic is F2 =
2.6. Thus, as with the expected real interest rate, the fiscal variables do
not have much explanatory power for the investment ratio.
We fit the equation for the investment ratio (Table 3, column 2) sepa-
World Real Interest
Rates ?
41
rately over 1959-72 and 1973-88. A test of stability for the coefficients
yields the statistic F% = 1.7 (5% critical value = 2.7). Columns 5 and 6
show the estimates obtained over the two subperiods. The standard
errors for the estimated coefficients from the 1959-72 sample tend to be
high; however, the estimated coefficient of STOCKd, t-_ is positive (.018,
s.e. = .011).
7. System
Estimates
for World
Expected
Real Interest Rate
and
Investment
Ratio
The structural model in equations (3) and (6) led to the reduced-form
equations (7) and (8) for the expected real interest rate and investment
ratio. In the previous sections, we estimated the two reduced-form equa-
tions separately, ignoring the overidentifying restrictions that came from
the structure. In this section, we estimate the two equations as a joint
system, allowing for the imposition of the model's restrictions as well as
for correlation of the error terms across the equations. Table 4 shows the
resulting estimates for the structural coefficients that appear in equation
(3) for investment demand and in equation (6) for desired saving. Col-
umns 1 and 2 apply to a system that includes monetary growth but
excludes fiscal variables. Columns 3 and 4 add two fiscal variables: the
debt-GDP ratio, RDEBTYd, t_, and the cyclically adjusted real deficit-real
GDP ratio, RDEFYAwd,t-.
We also fit the joint systems for the expected real interest rate and the
investment ratio without the restrictions imposed by the structural
model. Thereby we were able to compute likelihood-ratio tests of the
overidentifying restrictions. For the model without fiscal variables, the
test statistic (for -2 ? log[likelihood ratio]) of 9.9 compared to a 5%
critical value from the X2
distribution with 5 degrees of freedom of 11.1.
In the model with fiscal variables, the test statistic of 13.7 compared to
the 5% critical value (with 7 d.f.) of 14.1. Thus, the model's restrictions
were not rejected at the 5% level in either case. Table 4 also compares the
fits (in terms of R2
and -a
values) for restricted and unrestricted forms of
each equation separately. The fits for the investment equation appear
substantially more sensitive than those for the interest-rate equation to
the imposition of the model's overidentifying restrictions.
The two fiscal variables are jointly insignificant when added to the
restricted joint system (likelihood-ratio statistic of 5.3 compared to a 5%
critical value of 6.0). Since the other results are not sensitive to the
exclusion of the fiscal variables, we focus now on the estimates from the
model that excludes the fiscal variables (columns 1 and 2 of Table 4).
If one takes the structural model seriously, then two interesting results
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Table 4 SYSTEM REGRESSIONS FOR WORLD EXPECTED REAL INTEREST
RATE AND INVESTMENT RATIO
Regression
Results
(1) (2) (3) (4)
Investment Desired Investment Desired
Demand Ratio Saving Rate Demand Ratio Saving Rate
Constant 0.0 .097 0.0 .135
(.018) (.030)
STOCK,d
t_1 .051 .053
(.010) (.011)
POILt1 - -.033 -.040
(.006) (.007)
(I/Y)w,t-1 1.0 .575 1.0 .475
(.077) (.107)
Arwd,t -.436 -.465
(.126) (.139)
rwd,t - 343 -.370
(.069) (.076)
DMWd,t-1 .183 .145
(.037) (.035)
RDEBTYWd,t_1 -.026
(.015)
RDEFYAwd,t_1 .144
(.077)
Fit Statistics
rew,t
(I/Y)wd,t rwd,t (I/Y)wd,
R2
(restricted) .89 .76 .88 .78
a (restricted) .0057 .0073 .0062 .0073
R2
(unrestricted) .89 .82 .89 .86
r (unrestricted) .0054 .0061 .0056 .0057
Note: The sample period is 1959-88. The estimated coefficients
apply to the model that is estimated
subject
to the structural restrictions.
For the investment demand
equation,
the constant is set to 0 and
the coefficient
of (I/Y)wd,-_1
is set to 1. Columns
1 and 2 apply
to a model that
excludes fiscal
variables;
columns 3 and 4 to a model that includes the two fiscal variables shown. In fit statistics
apply to the
restricted model and to an unrestricted form
that
relaxes
the constraints from
the structural model.
are the estimated responsiveness of the desired saving rate to the ex-
pected real interest rate (.34, s.e. = .07 from Table 4, column 2) and the
estimated reaction of the investment-demand ratio to the expected real
interest rate (-.44, s.e. = .13, from column 1). The last coefficient has to
be interpreted as the effect of 4d,t on the investment-demand ratio while
holding fixed the value of the stock market. (Recall that, when the stock
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return is an imperfect measure of Aq,,
the variable <-rt-1 provides some
independent information about Aqt.)
The dependence of the stock return
on d,t- wd,t- suggests that the estimated coefficient -.44 would underes-
timate the magnitude of the response of the investment-demand ratio to
id,t while holding fixed expected profitability, PROFg,
and the risk pre-
mium, Pt, but not the value of the stock market.18
The estimated model implies that desired national (gross) saving rates
rise by .34 percentage points for each percentage-point increase in ?r.
Although this form provides a natural unit for thinking of the responsive-
ness of saving rates to real interest rates, it appears to be more common
to think in terms of elasticities. Because the sample mean of (I/Y)wd,t
is .23,
whereas that for wd,t
is only .020, the implied elasticities are small-only
.03 at the sample means. The calculated elasticities would, however,
tend to be substantially greater for net saving rates.
Column 1 of Table 4 shows that the estimated effect of STOCKWd,
_ on
the investment-demand ratio is .051, s.e. = .010. Since the sample stan-
dard deviation of STOCKWd,
t is .16, the result means that a 1 s.d. move in
the stock market changes the investment-demand ratio by .008 com-
pared to a sample s.d. for (I/Y)wdt
of .013. The estimated effect of POILt,_
on the desired saving rate in col. 2 is -.033, s.e. = .006. Given the
sample s.d. for POIL_ 1 of .21, a 1 s.d. move in the relative oil price
implies a shift in the desired saving rate by .007.
Columns 1 and 2 show that the estimated effects of the lagged depen-
dent variable, (I/Y)wd,t_, are 1 for the investment-demand ratio (as con-
strained by the model) and .58, s.e. = .08, for the desired saving rate.
The greater persistence of investment demand than of desired saving
generates the positive relation in the reduced form between 4,dt and
(I/Y)wd,t-. If the coefficient on (I/Y)d, t_ in the investment-demand equa-
tion is freed up, the estimated value is .93, s.e. = .11. In this case, the
estimated coefficient of (IIY)d, t in the saving-rate equation becomes .55,
s.e. = .09. Thus, this unrestricted version of the model does indicate
significantly greater persistence in investment demand than in desired
saving.
Column 2 shows the positive estimated effect for DMWd,t- on the de-
sired saving rate (.183, s.e. = .037). The previous discussion of the
reduced form indicated that this estimate stems from the negative rela-
tion between d,t
and DMd, tl, and not from any relation between (I/Y)wdt
and DMw, _.
Column 4 of Table 4 shows that the estimated effect of the debt-GDP
18. Serial correlation of the error term in the equation for r4,, would, however, likely lead
to an overestimate of the sensitivity of investment demand to a change in the expected
real interest rate; see the coefficient a2
in equations (3) and (7).
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ratio on the desired saving rate is negative but insignificant (-.026, s.e.
= .015). The cyclically adjusted deficit variable has a positive and margin-
ally significant estimated effect on desired saving (.144, s.e. = .077). This
"wrong" sign accords with the results discussed before in Table 3.
8. Simulations
for Expected
Real
Interest
Rates and
Investment Ratios
8.1 WHY WERE
EXPECTED
REAL INTEREST
RATES
SO HIGH IN
1981-86?
We can use the estimated model for the expected real interest rate and
the investment ratio to assess the frequently asked question: Why have
real interest rates been so high in the 1980s? We approach this question
Table 5 SIMULATED
EFFECTS ON EXPECTED
REAL
INTEREST RATES
AND INVESTMENT RATIOS
(RESULTS
REFER
TO
MEANS
FOR
THE PERIODS INDICATED)
Simulated Initial
Actual Total STOCK POIL DM Conditions
I. Study period:
1981-86; reference period:
1975-80
Restricted model
Arwd,t .039 .038 .025 .019 .003 -.009
A(I/Y)d,t -.011 -.009 .014 -.009 -.002 -.012
Unrestricted Model
Arwd,t .039 .031 .021 .014 .005 -.009
A(IY)wdt -.011 -.015 .012 -.015 -.001 -.011
II. Study period:
1975-80; reference
period:
1965-70
Restricted model
Ard, t -.022 -.013 -.018 .011 -.007 .001
A(I/Y)wd,t -.015 -.010 -.011 -.005 .003 .003
Unrestricted model
Ared
t -.022 -.011 -.015 .009 -.008 .003
A(I/Y)wd,t -.015 -.010 -.008 -.008 .001 .005
III. Study period:
1987-88; reference period:
1985-86
Restricted model
Arwd,t -.017 -.021 .002 -.019 -.001 -.003
A(I/Y)wdt .011 .009 .002 .008 .001 -.002
Unrestricted model
Are d,t -.017 -.020 .002 -.017 -.002 -.003
A(I/Y)d,t .011 .010 .001 .009 .000 -.001
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Table
5 SIMULATED EFFECTS ON EXPECTED
REAL
INTEREST
RATES
AND INVESTMENT RATIOS
(RESULTS
REFER TO MEANS
FOR
THE PERIODS
INDICATED)
(CONTINUED)
Simulated Initial
Actual Total STOCK POIL DM Conditions
IV. Study period:
1989; reference
period:
1988
Restricted model
Ard,t .011 .014 .015 -.005 -.003 .007
A(IlY)wd,t .017 .005 .002 .001 .009
Unrestricted model
Arwd,t .011 .013 .015 -.004 -.003 .006
A(I/Y)W - .019 .008 .002 .000 .009
Means of Variables Initial Conditions
Period rwd,t (IlY)d,t STOCKWd,t-l POILt-1 DMwd,t- rwd,t- (Y)wd,t-1
1989 .0347 (.247) .1484 .406 .0661 .0233 .242
1988 .0233 .242 -.0817 .519 .0541 .0225 .230
1987-88 .0229 .236 .0847 .470 .0895 .0401 .225
1985-86 .0395 .225 .1370 .839 .0906 .0443 .226
1981-86 .0424 .219 .0769 .927 .0791 .0245 .226
1975-80 .0031 .230 -.0624 .601 .0880 .0061 .249
1965-70 .0247 .245 .0092 .407 .0677 .0219 .238
Note: The column labeled "Simulated Total" refers to the change in the average simulated value of rd, t
or (IIY)Wd,t
from the reference period to the study period. These dynamic simulations use the actual
values of STOCKwd
t 1, POILt_1,
and DMWd,t_l,
and the actual initial values of re, t-_ and (I/Y)wd
t- at the
beginnings of the reference and study periods. The column labeled "STOCK" shows the part of the
change in the simulated values attributable to differences in the time series of STOCKWd,
t_ for the study
and reference periods. The other columns give the corresponding information for differences in the
time series of POIL_1, DMWd,t-_1 and the values for rwdt-l and (I/Y)wd,t-l at the start of the study and
reference periods. The value (I/Y)d,t for 1989 is based on incomplete data.
by comparing the period 1981-86, during which the average value of rd,t
was 4.2%, with an earlier reference period of equal length, 1975-80,
during which the average of wd,t
was 0.3%. Hence, we seek to explain the
increase in the average expected real interest rate from 1975-80 to 1981-
86 by 3.9 percentage points.
According to the model, the differences in averages of expected real
interest rates should be explicable mainly in terms of differences in
stock-market returns, oil prices, and monetary growth. Some role would
also be played by differences in initial conditions for rd,t- and (I/Y)wd,t-l
(in
1981 compared to 1975). Note from Table 5 that the averages for
STOCKWdt
- were 7.7% in 1981-86 versus -6.2% in 1975-80, those for
POILt_ were 0.93 in 1981-86 versus 0.61 in 1975-80, and those for
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DMd,t-l were 7.91% in 1981-86 versus 8.80% in 1975-80. The difference
in initial conditions were .0245 for 4d,t-1 in 1981 versus .0061 in 1975, and
.226 for (I/Y)wd,t- in 1981 versus .249 in 1975.
We can simulate the estimated model to estimate the extent to which
the higher average for r1dt in 1981-86 than in 1975-80 can be attributed to
differences in STOCKwd, t_, POIL,_
, DMWdt-,,
and the initial conditions for
4d,t-l and (I/Y)wd,t_. We consider the restricted version of the joint model
as reported in Table 4 and also the unrestricted version that does not
impose the overidentifying restrictions from the structure. We also ne-
glect any interplay among STOCK,, t, POILt,
and DMd, ; that is, we treat
the time paths of these three variables as exogenous.19
Given the actual time paths for STOCKwd,B
POILt,
and DMWd,t,
and the
actual values for w
,t- and (IY)wd,t- in 1981 and 1975, dynamic simulations
of the restricted model for 1981-86 and 1975-80 predict an increase in
the average of wd,t
of 3.8 percentage points compared to the actual in-
crease of 3.9 points (see the columns labeled "Simulated Total" and
"Actual" in section I of Table 5). We then dynamically simulated the
restricted model for 1981-86 with the values of STOCKWd,
t- from 1975-80
substituted year by year for those in 1981-86. This simulation implied
that 2.5 percentage points of the increase in the average of rwdt from 1975-
80 to 1981-86 derived from the higher average for stock returns in the
latter period (see the column labeled "STOCK"
in the table).20
Similarly,
we found that 1.9 percentage points of the rise in the average of rwd,
resulted from the increase in average oil prices (the column "POIL"),
0.3
points from the lower average monetary growth (the column "DM"),
and -0.9 points from the differences in initial conditions. The main
change in the initial conditions is the much lower value for (IIY)w
,_1 in
1981 than in 1975; this effect by itself would have lowered real interest
rates for 1981-86. The results from simulations of the unrestricted
model, shown in Table 5, are basically similar.
Table 5 also indicates the simulated results for investment ratios. The
restricted model predicts that the average of (IIY)w,t
for 1981-86 would be
19. We do find a significant negative relation between stock returns for year t and the
change in oil prices during year t. Also, M1 growth has significant negative reactions to
the contemporaneous change in oil prices and to lagged stock returns. We can filter the
stock returns to compute the component exogenous to oil-price changes, and we can
filter M1 growth to calculate the part exogenous to oil-price changes and lagged stock
returns. In the discussion below we attribute changes in expected real interest rates
and investment ratios to the behavior of stock returns, oil prices, and monetary
growth. The breakdown among these three variables would change if we shifted from
gross numbers to the filtered values.
20. The results depend not only on differences in the average value of STOCK., _,, but on
differences in the time pattern. It is possible for the simulated effects to go in the
direction opposite to that suggested just from a comparison of means.
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0.9 percentage points below the average for 1975-80, compared to the
actual shortfall of 1.1 points. The simulations attribute 0.9 percentage
points of the decline in the average investment ratio to higher oil prices,
-1.4 points to the more favorable stock returns (which, by themselves,
would have raised the investment ratio), 0.2 points to lower monetary
growth, and 1.2 points to differences in initial conditions. The main
element in the initial conditions is again the lower value for (I/Y)d,,t- in
1981 than in 1975. The results from the unrestricted model are again
similar.
8.2 WHY
WERE EXPECTED REAL
INTEREST RATES SO LOW
IN
1975-80?
We now compare the low average for rWd,t
in 1975-80, 0.3%, with the
higher value, 2.5%, that prevailed during an earlier reference period of
the same length, 1965-70. (The results are similar if we pick alternative
six-year reference periods in the 1960s or early 1970s.) Section II of Table
5 shows that simulations of the restricted model predict a decline of only
1.3 percentage points in the average of 7d, from 1965-70 to 1975-80
compared with the actual decrease of 2.2 points. The model attributes
1.8 percentage points of the decline to lower stock returns, -1.1 points
to higher oil prices (which, by themselves, would have raised expected
real interest rates), 0.7 points to higher monetary growth, and -0.1
points to differences in initial conditions. The results from the unre-
stricted model are similar.
Overall, the largest factor behind the differences in expected real inter-
est rates among the three periods, 1965-70, 1975-80, and 1981-86, is the
variation in stock returns. The fall in real interest rates from 1965-70 to
1975-80 goes along with a worsening of stock returns (from 0.9% to
-6.2%), and the steep rise in rates in 1981-86 reflects sharply higher
stock returns (7.7%). The movements in oil prices are also important,
although higher oil prices in 1975-80 compared to 1965-70 partially
counteract the movement to lower real interest rates. The increase in oil
prices in 1981-86 compared to 1975-80 reinforces the stock market in
generating a shift toward higher real interest rates.
8.3 WHY DID EXPECTED REAL INTEREST RATES FALL IN 1987-88
AND RISE IN 1989?
The average of 4dt fell by 1.7 percentage points from 1985-86 to 1987-88
and then rose by 1.1 percentage points from 1988 to 1989. Sections III
and IV of Table 5 contain simulations for these periods. The dominant
factor behind the decline in real interest rates in 1987-88 is the fall in oil
prices. The main element underlying the rise in real rates in 1989 is the
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much more favorable stock return in 1988 (15.0%) compared to 1987
(-8.2%).
We have assembled nearly complete data for 1989 on the variables
STOCKw,
t, POILt,
DMwd,t,
(IIY)wd,,t
and wd,t-
Using these values, we can use
the model to forecast the expected real interest rate and investment ratio
for 1990. Remarkably, the restricted model implies a predicted value for
4d,t of 5.6% (5.5% from the unrestricted model). The forecast from the
restricted model for 1990 not only constitutes an increase by 2.1 percent-
age points in red from the value prevailing in 1989, it also represents a
level that is almost a full percentage point above the highest value of the
entire previous sample, 1958-89. The five determinants of rd, in the
model all point in the direction of higher real interest rates in 1990: the
favorable stock return (17.4% in 1989 versus 14.8% in 1988) accounts for
0.1 percentage point, the increase in oil prices (.525 versus .406) for 0.5
percentage point, reduced monetary growth (3.2% versus 6.6%) for 0.8
percentage point, and the change in initial conditions (the rise in (IY)wd,t
from .242 in 1988 to .247 in 1989 and the increase in 4wt from .023 in 1988
to .035 in 1989) accounts for 0.9 percentage point. Needless to say, this
prediction of a rise in the expected real interest rate to a range not seen at
least in the last 30 years will provide a severe test of the model. With
respect to the investment ratio, the restricted model predicts little
change from 1989 (.246 in 1990 versus .247 in 1989), whereas the unre-
stricted model projects an increase by 0.3 percentage point.
Given the stress on fluctuations in the stock market, we would like to
know what fundamental factors underlie these fluctuations. (We would,
of course, also like to understand the forces that lead to changes in oil
prices and monetary growth.) We interpret stock returns as reflecting
changes in the expected profitability of investment, PROFt,
and in the risk
premium, Pt. We plan to use data on actual profitability to separate the
influences from these two channels. At this point, we can only note that
the fluctuations in stock prices could derive from technological innova-
tions, changing conditions of labor markets or international competition,
shifts in government policies with regard to taxation and regulation, and
so on. Although we have not isolated the main forces that influence stock
returns, the findings suggest that these forces are crucial for the determi-
nation of expected real interest rates and investment ratios.
9. Systems
for Individual
Countries'
Expected
Real
Interest
Rates
In the world model with an integrated capital market, "the" expected
real interest rate depends on world variables, which include world aggre-
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gates of stock returns and monetary growth and the world price of oil.
Thus, the reduced form in equation (7) gives an expression for ft in terms
of these world variables. In practice, we observe individual time series,
4, for each country i. In the previous analysis we combined these obser-
vations into a world index, '4d,
t that gives more weight to countries with
higher shares in world real GDP. Then we related this world index to the
world influences suggested by the structural model.
We can think of each country's expected real interest rate as determined
by the hypothetical world rate-which depends on world variables in the
manner suggested by the structural model-plus some own-country fac-
tors. That is,
I = t + it (11)
where xit represents variables particular to country i and i depends on
the world variables as in the previous analysis. Unless the xt are random
errors that are perfectly correlated across the countries, we would get
more efficient estimates of the determinants of i by using all the individ-
ual observations on the r for the nine countries, instead of combining
everything into the world weighted average, rd,t. That is, we can think of
equation (11) as a system of nine equations, and we can estimate the
variance-covariance structure of the error terms, xi, along with the esti-
mation of the coefficients for the variables that determine rt.
When we look empirically at the values of r for an individual country,
we typically find a good deal of serial persistence about the rate, 4, that
can be explained by worldwide forces. We can allow for this effect more
or less equivalently by including (t-1 as an element of xt or by treating xi
as an error term that is serially correlated. Because it is simpler in the
systems discussed below and also delivers somewhat better fits (at least
relative to an AR(1) model for the xt), we take the approach of including
rt-I as a regressor.21 We do not make any structural interpretations for
the statistical significance of this lagged dependent variable. It could
reflect a variety of own-country forces that we do not hold constant,
including serially correlated measurement error in nominal interest rates
or expected inflation and persisting differences across countries in riski-
ness of real returns or the tax treatment of these returns.
If the world capital and goods markets are fully integrated, shifts to a
single country's investment demand or desired saving affect the ex-
pected real interest rate only to the extent that these shifts affect the
21. Once we hold fixed rt_1, the determinants of rt, (which are second lags of the world
variables) are insignificant in the equations for ri.
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world aggregate of investment demand or desired saving. Therefore,
own-country variables like country i's stock return and monetary growth
would matter for i only to the extent that they contribute to the world
aggregates of stock returns and monetary growth. With the world vari-
ables held constant, the importance of these own-country variables for r
will provide some evidence about the extent of country i's integration
into world markets. If the own-country variables are unimportant for
country i, we cannot conclude unambiguously that country i is well
integrated; that is, country i could be isolated from the rest of the world,
but rt may nevertheless be insensitive to the own-country explanatory
variables we consider. We get clearer evidence from observations in the
reverse direction; if i depends in an important way on the own-country
variables for country i, then we have an indication that the country is not
well integrated into world markets.
Table 6 contains system estimates for rt for nine countries over 1959-
88. The estimation is by generalized least squares, which allows for
estimation of each country's error variance and of contemporaneous
covariances across the countries. Roughly speaking, the method of esti-
mation differs from that in Table 2 in that the weight for each country
now depends mainly on the estimated error variance, rather than on the
relative GDP.
We begin with a model that, aside from f,t- and individual constants for
each country, includes only the world variables we considered before:
STOCKwd,t-_
POILt,_, (I/Y)wd,t-_ and DMWd,
t,. These results are in column 1
of Table 6. The estimated coefficients on each of the independent vari-
ables, including the lagged dependent variable, are constrained to be the
same for each country. In this form, the estimates are similar to those from
the comparable equation for wd,t (Table 2, column 2). The main difference
(with the increase in the overall number of observations from 30 to 270) is
the reduction in the standard errors for the estimated coefficients.
Column 2 of Table 6 adds three own-country variables: STOCKit_l,
(I/Y)i,_l, and DMi, _,. (We assume that POILt_1
takes on the same value for
each country; therefore, we cannot distinguish world from own-country
values in this case.) We constrain the coefficients of the three own vari-
ables to be the same across the nine countries. In this form, a test of the
hypothesis that the coefficients on the three own-country variables are
all zero leads to the likelihood-ratio statistic 2.7 compared to the 5%
critical value of 7.8. Thus, we accept the hypothesis that own-country
expected real interest rates depend on the world variables and not own-
country variables (aside from the individual constant and the lagged
dependent variable).
Table 6 NINE-COUNTRY SYSTEMS FOR EXPECTED REAL INTEREST RATES
(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7)
Constant separate separate separate -.087 separate separate separate
(.020)
STOCKwd,t- .048 .052 - .040 .049 .048 .032
(.006) (.007) (.007) (.006) (.006) (.006)
POIL,_1 .043 .043 .030 .034 .049 .044 .071
(.005) (.005) (.006) (.005) (.005) (.005) (.005)
(IY)wt .521 .505 - .408 .447 .549 .575
(.080) (.087) (.084) (.095) (.098) (.083)
ri .
.484 .500 .515 .651 .458 .476 .352
(.041) (.042) (.048) (.036) (.042) (.044) (.036)
DMwd,t-1 -.245 -.255 - -.225 -.161 -.231 -.146
(.035) (.038) (.037) (.044) (.040) (.036)
STOCKi,
t1 -.005 -.004 - -
(.004) (.004)
(IY)it-1 - .009 .023
(.027) (.026)
DMi,t_ - .027 .016 -
(.013) (.013)
RDEBTYw,t - - .016 .008
(.014) (.015)
RDEFYt_ - -.231 -
(.074)
RDEFYAwd,,
t- - -- -.061
(.090)
_- -_ - .562
(.034)
Note: The sample period is 1959-88. The dependent variables in columns 1-6 are ri for nine countries. In column 7 the dependent variables are the nominal
interest rates, Ri,.
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Column 3 of Table 6 retains the three own-country variables added
in column 2, but deletes the corresponding three world variables,
STOCKwd,t_l (I/Y)wdt_l, and DMdt _1. A test of the hypothesis that the
coefficients of these three world variables are all zero leads to the
likelihood-ratio statistic 27.8 compared to the 5% critical value of 7.8.
Therefore, the data reject the hypothesis that own-country expected
real interest rates depend on the own-country variables and not on the
world variables.
Overall, the results in columns 1-3 provide evidence that individual
country expected real interest rates depend more on worldwide forces
than own-country forces. In this sense, the results suggest that the nine
OECD countries were operating to a considerable extent on integrated
world markets. Note, however, that the results presented thus far apply
when all countries are constrained to have the same coefficients on the
world and own-country variables (aside from an individual constant
term).
We tested whether the system regression in Table 6, column 1 was
stable over the periods 1959-72 and 1973-88. The test for equality of
coefficients over the two samples is accepted (likelihood-ratio statistic of
8.8, 5% critical value with 14 restrictions of 23.7).
Column 4 of Table 6 constrains the constant terms to be the same
across the countries. The hypothesis of equality is strongly rejected: the
likelihood-ratio statistic is 48.1 compared to a 5% critical value of 15.5. In
this sense, we confirm the general belief that the average levels of ex-
pected real interest rates differed significantly across the nine countries.
Columns 5 and 6 of Table 6 add the world fiscal variables, which we
considered before. The results are similar to those found for the world
real interest rate in Table 2: the debt variable is insignificant, the unad-
justed deficit variable is significantly negative (-.23, s.e. = .07 in Table
5, column 5), and the cyclically adjusted deficit variable is insignificant
(column 6).
Column 7 of Table 6 uses nominal interest rates,. Rit, as dependent
variables and adds the expected inflation rate, 7it, on the right side. The
estimated coefficient on 77i
(constrained to be the same across the coun-
tries) is now significantly less than one: .562, s.e. = .034. To some extent,
this result is sensitive to the U.K. data, which exhibit sharply negative
values for rt
in the mid 1970s. If the United Kingdom is allowed to have its
own coefficient on 7rk,t the estimated coefficient on k
t is .42, s.e. = .05,
and that on ift for the other eight countries rises to .68, s.e. = .04. Our
conjecture is that the departure of this estimated coefficient from unity
reflects measurement error in the construction of expected inflation.
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Table
7 STATISTICS FOR NINE-COUNTRY
SYSTEM FOR
red,t
(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8)
Table
6, col- Own
coefficients
on
4 world Own
coefficients
on
3
umn
1 variables
&
r_t-1 own variables
regression
regresn -2 ?
logA -2 ?
logA
Country R2 a (5%=11.1) R2 & (5%=7.8) R2 &
BE .78 .007 3.6 .81 .007 3.6 .77 .007
CA .58 .014 24.0 .69 .013 3.5 .62 .014
FR .74 .011 2.0 .74 .012 1.8 .75 .011
GE .38 .016 14.5 .67 .012 7.1 .40 .017
JA .12 .018 7.5 .35 .017 21.5 .42 .016
NE .54 .013 5.1 .58 .014 7.5 .64 .013
SW .70 .014 5.9 .76 .013 1.7 .72 .014
UK .47 .026 8.3 .68 .022 25.0 .68 .021
US .76 .010 2.7 .83 .009 3.4 .79 .010
Note: Columns 1 and 2 provide fit statistics for individual countries for the system regression shown in
Table 6, column 1. Columns 3-5 deal with systems in which individual countries have separate coeffi-
cients on four world variables (STOCK,
POIL, I/Y, and DM) and the lagged dependent variable. Column
3 gives the likelihood-ratio statistic (-2 ? log[likelihood ratio]) when these individual coefficients are
introduced one country at a time. Columns 4 and 5 give fit statistics for each country in a system where
all countries have individual coefficients on the five variables noted above. Columns 6-8 deal with
systems in which individual countries have separate coefficients on three own-country variables
(STOCK,
IIY, and DM), each expressed as a deviation from the corresponding world variable. Column 6
gives the likelihood-ratio statistic when these individual coefficients are introduced one country at a
time. Columns 7 and 8 give fit statistics for each country in a system where all countries have individual
coefficients on the three own-country variables.
Columns 1 and 2 of Table 7 provide statistics (R2
and &)
for the individ-
ual countries for the system regression from Table 6, column 1. Note that
the model explains virtually none of the variations in expected real inter-
est rates for Japan. For the United Kingdom, the high value of 6r
seems to
reflect mainly the large negative numbers for rk,t in the mid-1970s. The
model cannot explain these values, a finding that is reasonable if these
observations reflect incorrect estimates of Tk,t.
We tested the hypothesis that the nine countries have the same coeffi-
cients on the four world variables, STOCKw,t
_, POIL,_1, (I/Y)wd,t
_ and
DM d,
t_, and the lagged dependent variable, _t-. If we relax this restric-
tion for one country at a time (with the other eight still restricted to have
equal coefficients), we get the likelihood-ratio statistics shown in column
3 of Table 7. At the 5% critical level (with five restrictions), the hypothe-
sis of equality is rejected for only two countries, Canada and Germany.
For Canada, the main reason for rejection is that, unlike the other coun-
tries, the unrestricted coefficient estimate for the lagged dependent vari-
able is close to zero (-.05, s.e. = .08).
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An overall test for equality of coefficients across the nine countries (40
restrictions) leads to the likelihood-ratio statistic of 83.1 compared to the
5% critical value of 55.5. Thus, the model fails to pass the test that each
country's expected real interest rate reacts in the same way to the four
world variables and the lagged dependent variable. Columns 4 and 5 of
Table 7 show the fit statistics (R2 and 6) for each country in the unre-
stricted form. The largest changes from columns 1 and 2 (Canada, Ger-
many, Japan, and the United Kingdom) correspond to the likelihood-
ratio statistics shown in column 3.
We also allowed each country to depend in an individual way on its
own variables. We constrained the coefficients on the world variables
and the lagged dependent variable to be the same across the countries,
but we allowed country i to have its own coefficients on the three vari-
ables: STOCKi, t_ - STOCKd, t l, (I/Y)i,t_l - (I/Y)Wd,t-l,
andDMi,t_ - DMwd,t-l
By entering these variables as deviations from their world counterparts
we constrained each country to react in the same way to equal changes
in world and own variables, for example, to an equal increase in
STOCKd,
t1 and STOCK,
t_. But we allowed /,t
to react in an individual
way to a shift in the own-country variable, say STOCK,
_l, for a given
value of the world variable. Presumably, the more a country is isolated
from world markets the greater will tend to be the reaction of it to the
own variables.
We first introduced the own-country variables for one country at a
time. Own variables (except for the constant and the lagged dependent
variable) were excluded for the other eight countries. (Recall that the
coefficients of the world variables and of the lagged dependent variable
were constrained to be equal for all nine countries.) Column 6 of Table 7
shows likelihood-ratio statistics for tests of the hypothesis that the coeffi-
cients of the three own-country variables are all zero. We accept this
hypothesis at the 5% critical level for all countries except Japan and the
United Kingdom. Thus, the results suggest that these two countries
were particularly isolated (for at least part of the sample) from interna-
tional markets.
We also introduced the three own-country variables simultaneously
for all nine countries. Individual coefficients on these variables were
estimated for each country. An overall test that all of these coefficients
were zero (27 restrictions) led to the likelihood-ratio statistic 74.4 com-
pared to the 5% critical value of 40.1. Thus, the model fails to pass the
test that own-country expected real interest rates are unresponsive in
an individual way to own-country variables (given common reactions
to world variables and the lagged dependent variable). Columns 7 and
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8 of Table 7 show fit statistics (R2
and &)
for each country in the model
that allows individual coefficients for all countries on the three own
variables. The largest changes from columns 1 and 2 (Japan and the
United Kingdom) correspond to the likelihood-ratio statistics shown in
column 6.
10. System for Individual Countries' Investment
Ratios
We now relate the investment ratio for each of the ten countries, (I/Y),, to
world and own-country variables. Unlike for the expected real interest
rate, r, the null hypothesis under integrated world markets is not that
(I/Y)it
depends only on world variables. (IIY),i would depend on any
variable that influences own-country investment demand-notably, the
own-country stock return, STOCKi,
_, and the lagged investment ratio,
(I/Y)i,,_1-and on world variables through their influence on the world
expected real interest rate. Given the world variables (and hence the
world expected real interest rate), (I/Y)i,
would be independent of influ-
ences on country i's desired saving rate. Because POILt_1 is a common
influence across countries, the only variable of this type in the previous
analysis was own-country monetary growth, DMi,
_. (The own-country
fiscal variables would also be in this category, but the fiscal variables
were found to be unimportant in general.)
Table 8 shows the results for (I/Y)it
for the ten-country system of invest-
ment ratios over the period 1959-88. The independent variables are
POIL,_l;
the world and own-country lagged values of STOCK,
(IIY),
and
DM; 4d,t-,;22 and individual constant terms. The regression in column 1
shows a significant, positive effect for STOCKi,, (.017, s.e. = .003). This
result can be interpreted as an effect from changes in the expected profit-
ability of investment in country i (or possibly changes in the risk pre-
mium applicable to these investments). The estimated coefficient of
STOCKW,t 1, however, is also positive: .017, s.e. = .008. If the own-
country stock return holds constant the expected profitability of invest-
ment (risk-adjusted), then the world stock return would influence (I/Y)t
only through its effect on world expected real interest rates; that is, the
effect of STOCKWd, on (I/Y)i would be negative. It is possible, however,
that stock returns in other countries provide information about the profit-
ability of investment in country i, even for a given value of country i's
22. Because the expected real interest rate is unavailable for Italy we entered rd ,t- for each
country. The results change little if we also include rt-i in the nine-country system that
excludes Italy. That is, lags of expected real interest rates are unimportant in general for
the investment ratios.
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Table
8. TEN-COUNTRY
SYSTEMS
FOR INVESTMENT
RATIOS
(1)
Constant
Constant
STOCKWd,t-1
POILt_1
(I/Y)wd,t-l
rwd,t-l
DM ,t-1
STOCKit-1
(I/Y)it-1
DMi,t-I
Separate
.017
(.008)
-.020
(.006)
.133
(.102)
.045
(.059)
-.049
(.042)
.017
(.003)
.824
(.027)
.039
(.010)
(2)
Separate
-.025
(.004)
.063
(.059)
.021
(.003)
.823
(.024)
.038
(.010)
Note: The sample period
is 1959-88. The dependent
variables
are
(I/Y)it
for
ten countries.
stock return.23 This outcome might arise if ownership extends across
countries or if the stock-price data for some countries are poor measures
of the expected profitability of investment in those countries.
As in previous results, the regression in Table 8, column 1 indicates a
significantly negative effect of POILt_1
on the investment ratios (-.020,
s.e. = .006). One puzzle is that the estimated coefficient for own-country
monetary growth, DMi,t,, is significantly positive (.039, s.e. = .010),
whereas that on world monetary growth, DMwd t-_, is negative but insig-
nificant (-.049, s.e. = .042). Previously we found an inverse relation
between i and the lag of world
monetary growth, not own-country
mone-
tary growth (Table 6, column 2). Thus, the interest-rate effects suggest a
positive connection between DMWd,
t- and (I/Y)it,
but the results indicate
instead a positive coefficient on DMi, _. (Recall that, for the world vari-
ables in Table 3, DMd,t-l had an insignificant effect on (IY)wd,t.) There may
be an endogenous-money story to explain these results, but we have not
yet come up with it.
Column 2 of Table 8 eliminates three world variables from the regres-
23. As a related matter, Barro (1990) finds that Canadian investment responds more to the
U.S. stock market than the Canadian stock market.
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Interest Rates
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sion: STOCKw t-l, (I/Y)w,
t-, and DM,dt-_. Theoretically (abstracting from
the possible informational role of world stock prices for own-country
profitability), these variables would affect (I/Y)it
only through their ef-
fects on the world expected real interest rate. The three world variables
prove to be jointly insignificant; the likelihood-ratio statistic is 2.9 com-
pared to the 5% critical value of 7.8.
It would be possible to consider the system of equations for invest-
ment ratios jointly with the system for expected real interest rates. The
restrictions imposed by the structural model could be imposed on this
overall joint system. We plan eventually to undertake this grand-system
estimation.
11. Summary
of
Main
Results
We thought of the expected real interest rate for the major industrialized
countries as determined by the equation of aggregate investment de-
mand to the aggregate of desired national saving. We used stock-market
returns to isolate shifts to expected profitability of investment (or risk
premia) and, hence, to investment demand. We used oil prices to cap-
ture shifts to temporary income and, hence, to desired national saving.
In some models, monetary expansion would appear as a positive shock
to desired national saving, and in others, fiscal expansion would enter as
a negative shock.
We used the structural model to determine a reduced form for the
"world" expected real interest rate and ratio of investment to GDP. The
main predictions are that more favorable stock returns raise the real
interest rate and investment, higher oil prices increase the real interest
rate but decrease investment, higher monetary growth lowers the real
interest rate and stimulates investment, and greater fiscal expansion
raises the real interest rate and reduces investment.
We estimated the reduced form of the model on data for ten OECD
countries over the period 1959-88. Thus far, the results pertain to an-
nual data on short-term interest rates. (Because of data problems with
Italy we included only nine countries in the equations for interest
rates.) The results for world (GDP-weighted) expected real interest
rates reveal significant effects in the predicted directions for world
stock returns, oil prices, and world monetary growth. Fiscal variables
turned out to be unimportant. The behavior of the world investment
ratio was also consistent with the model, except that the hypothesized
positive effect from monetary growth did not show up and fiscal vari-
ables were unimportant.
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Estimates of the reduced form that were constrained by the structural
restrictions led to estimates of structural coefficients, such as the respon-
siveness of desired national saving rates to the expected real interest
rate. We find that an increase in the expected real interest rate by one
percentage point raises the desired saving rate by about one-third of a
percentage point.
We simulated the model to try to explain why expected real interest
rates were high for 1981-86 (averaging 4.2%) and low for 1975-80
(averaging 0.3%). The dominant influence was the variation in stock
returns; these returns were very low for 1974-79 and much higher for
1980-85. The increase in oil prices from the early 1970s until 1986 is also
an important factor. We attributed the drop in expected real interest
rates for 1987-88 (to an average of 2.3%) mainly to the decline in oil
prices, and the rise in the rate for 1989 (to 3.5%) mainly to the im-
proved stock market in 1988. The model also forecasts a dramatic rise
in the expected real interest rate to 5.6% in 1990. This value is almost a
full percentage point above the highest value that occurred during the
period 1958-89.
We estimated systems of equations for expected real interest rates for
nine OECD countries. (We also estimated systems of equations for invest-
ment ratios for ten OECD countries, including Italy.) These systems
include world and own-country variables as regressors. One finding is
that each country's expected real interest rate depends primarily on
world factors, thereby suggesting a good deal of integration of world
markets. We do find, however, significant effects of own-country vari-
ables for Japan and the United Kingdom. Our interpretation is that these
countries were significantly isolated from international markets, at least
over part of the period 1959-88.
The research carried out thus far suggests a number of avenues for
future work. The possibilities that we are presently pursuing are the
analysis of longer-term interest rates, the inclusion of measures of the
profitability of investment, the addition of variables such as defense
expenditures that represent exogenous shifts to desired saving, consider-
ation of tax effects related to interest income and expenses, and the
estimation of equations for expected real interest rates and investment
ratios with quarterly data. We are also considering a division of invest-
ment into components that would be especially sensitive to the stock
market (business nonresidential investment) and those that would be
less sensitive (residential investment, public investment, and purchases
of consumer durables). Finally, we are looking into the possibilities for
adding more countries; Switzerland and Australia appear to be the most
promising in terms of the availability of data.
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Table Al QUARTERLY REGRESSIONS FOR INFLATION
Country: BE CA FR GE JA NE SW UK US
S1
52
53
S4
AR(1)
MA(1)
R2
Q(4)
.040
(.028)
.047
(.028)
.039
(.028)
.047
(.028)
.92
(.07)
-.58
(.11)
.54
.025
1.8
.051
(.036)
.067
(.036)
.044
(.036)
.044
(.036)
.94
(.07)
-.67
(.11)
.62
.025
12.5
.054
(.034)
.051
(.034)
.062
(.034)
.066
(.034)
.90
(.10)
-.55
(.13)
.43
.039
4.0
.034
(.015)
.025
(.015)
.016
(.015)
.052
(.015)
.86
(.13)
-.68
(.16)
.40
.024
9.4
.072
(.045)
.014
(.045)
.082
(.045)
.024
(.045)
.90
(.16)
-.70
(.19)
.38
.053
3.8
.076
(.032)
.012
(.032)
.053
(.032)
.026
(.032)
.88
(.30)
-.77
(.31)
.28
.048
9.3
.053
(.109)
.048
(.109)
.059
(.109)
.075
(.109)
.97
(.14)
-.84
(.16)
.30
.038
4.0
.100
(.058)
.051
(.058)
.048
(.058)
.065
(.058)
.94
(.09)
-.60
(.12)
.54
.043
0.1
.045
(.057)
.050
(.057)
.035
(.057)
.029
(.057)
.96
(.08)
-.69
(.11)
.55
.025
5.8
Note: The dependent variable is the inflation rate for each country. Each quarterly value is expressed at an annual rate. The sample period is 1952:2-1989:3. S1
is a dummy for quarter 1 (January to April), and so on. AR(1) is the first-order autoregressive error term and MA(1) is the first-order moving-average error
term. Q(4) is the Q Statistic with 4 lags.
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Table A2 DEFINITIONS AND SOURCES OF VARIABLES
(DATA ARE
ANNUAL UNLESS INDICATED OTHERWISE)
R 3-month Treasury bill rate for January, April, July, October, except
money-market rate for France and Japan, from International
Financial
Statistics (IFS) and OECD, Main Economic
Indicators.
P Consumer price index (1980=1.0), seasonally unadjusted, for Janu-
ary, April, July, October, from IFS.
%t 4*log(Pt+ /Pt), quarterly.
r R- r, quarterly.
Tef Constructed measure of expected inflation, quarterly.
re R- e, quarterly.
Y Real GDP (deflator = 1.0 in 1980) from OECD National Accounts.
I Real gross domestic capital formation (deflator = 1.0 in 1980) from
OECD National Accounts.
STOCK Real rate of return on stock market. Nominal returns are computed
from IFS data for December on industrial share prices. Consumer
price inflation (December-to-December) was subtracted from the
nominal returns to calculate the real returns.
POIL Ratio of U.S. PPI for crude petroleum to overall U.S. PPI (1982
base), from Citibase.
DM Growth rate of M1, computed from December values for M1 from
IFS.
RDEBTY Ratio of end-of-year real central government debt (nominal debt at
par value divided by the December CPI) to real GDP. For BE, CA,
FR, GE, IT, and NE, the debt figures are the sum of domestic and
foreign debt from IFS. For JA, the data are from Monthly Statistics
of
Japan;
for SW, Monthly Digest of Swedish
Statistics;
for UK, Central
Statistical Office, Annual Statistics;
for US, Economic
Report of the
President.
RDEFY Ratio of real budget deficit to real GDP. The real budget deficit is
the change in the real debt for the year. The real debt is the ratio of
the nominal debt to the December consumer price index.
RDEFYA The residual from a regression of RDEFY for each country over
1958-87 on the current and four annual lags of the growth rate of
real GDP.
WTXX Share of country XX in the ten-country Summers-Heston (1988) real
GDP.
Comment
WILLIAM BRAINARD
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Table A2 DEFINITIONS AND SOURCES OF VARIABLES
(DATA ARE
ANNUAL UNLESS INDICATED OTHERWISE)
R 3-month Treasury bill rate for January, April, July, October, except
money-market rate for France and Japan, from International
Financial
Statistics (IFS) and OECD, Main Economic
Indicators.
P Consumer price index (1980=1.0), seasonally unadjusted, for Janu-
ary, April, July, October, from IFS.
%t 4*log(Pt+ /Pt), quarterly.
r R- r, quarterly.
Tef Constructed measure of expected inflation, quarterly.
re R- e, quarterly.
Y Real GDP (deflator = 1.0 in 1980) from OECD National Accounts.
I Real gross domestic capital formation (deflator = 1.0 in 1980) from
OECD National Accounts.
STOCK Real rate of return on stock market. Nominal returns are computed
from IFS data for December on industrial share prices. Consumer
price inflation (December-to-December) was subtracted from the
nominal returns to calculate the real returns.
POIL Ratio of U.S. PPI for crude petroleum to overall U.S. PPI (1982
base), from Citibase.
DM Growth rate of M1, computed from December values for M1 from
IFS.
RDEBTY Ratio of end-of-year real central government debt (nominal debt at
par value divided by the December CPI) to real GDP. For BE, CA,
FR, GE, IT, and NE, the debt figures are the sum of domestic and
foreign debt from IFS. For JA, the data are from Monthly Statistics
of
Japan;
for SW, Monthly Digest of Swedish
Statistics;
for UK, Central
Statistical Office, Annual Statistics;
for US, Economic
Report of the
President.
RDEFY Ratio of real budget deficit to real GDP. The real budget deficit is
the change in the real debt for the year. The real debt is the ratio of
the nominal debt to the December consumer price index.
RDEFYA The residual from a regression of RDEFY for each country over
1958-87 on the current and four annual lags of the growth rate of
real GDP.
WTXX Share of country XX in the ten-country Summers-Heston (1988) real
GDP.
Comment
WILLIAM BRAINARD
The behavior of real interest rates, particularly in the last decade, has
puzzled many observers. In this paper Barro and Sala-i-Martin make a
The behavior of real interest rates, particularly in the last decade, has
puzzled many observers. In this paper Barro and Sala-i-Martin make a
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bold attempt to explain the "world" real interest rate with a simple
model in which that rate is determined by the condition that world
investment be equal to world saving. The paper is stimulating to read
and rich with information and puzzles. It is written in a commendable
style-clear about the data, candid about contradictory results. Artful in
the specification of the model, Barro and Sala-i-Martin are at the same
time disarmingly diffident about the theory. Although I have reserva-
tions about both the theory and some of the authors' conclusions, I
admire their willingness to tackle an inherently difficult problem and
their resourcefulness in creating a coherent picture of the experience of
the last 30 years.
1. Overview
of
the
Model
The authors' model is "classical," consisting simply of an investment
equation and a saving equation, plus the condition that saving and
investment be equal. Each equation contains only one right-hand-side
endogenous variable, the real interest rate. Since nothing else is free to
give, the real interest rate is determined by the equilibrium condition.
Hence the real rate is determined by exogenous factors shifting invest-
ment or saving. In the authors' specification these are few in number;
investment depends on a "q-like
variable" and saving depends on transi-
tory income and the real rate of interest.
The theoretical framework the authors use for organizing their investi-
gation has the virtue of simplicity, but its very simplicity precludes exami-
nation of some major hypotheses about the movements of the real rates
during their sample period. The classical model usually comes with the
assumption that income is always at full employment. The authors do
not make that assumption explicit, and indeed they allow changes in
transitory income to affect the saving ratio. But, as in the classical full-
employment model, adjustments in income play no role in transmitting
shocks to interest rates or investment ratios and they do not test the
validity of that assumption. Hence, for example, they do not examine
the role that a worldwide recession may have played in explaining why
real rates appear to fall following OPEC 1. Indeed the reader will not find
a figure or time series for income in the paper.
Similarly, the interplay of inflation, income, money, and nominal rates
is not modeled. Prices are gotten out of the way early, for most of the
analysis an estimate of inflationary expectations is used simply to calcu-
late the expected real rate from nominal rate. The classical role of prices
in maintaining full employment, and their success in doing so, is not
examined. The transmission mechanism for monetary policy is missing.
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The authors do allow the possibility of non-neutrality of money in the
short run, but in their model money enters directly in the saving sched-
ule, with monetary expansion presumed to increase saving at a given
real rate of interest. The suppression of the demand and supply for
money obscures the way in which monetary events may affect invest-
ment, saving, and interest rates. Placing money in the saving function,
with income exogenous, in my view does not do justice to the possible
role of money. In the usual story, an increase in the expected rate of
growth of money and associated inflation shifts downward the stock
demand for money and decreases the required rate of return on bonds or
capital. In the short run easy money, in the level or expected rate of
change, lowers real rates as well as nominal because price changes do
not fully offset the nominal changes. Hence, expansionary monetary
encourages investment and increases income. These effects can be pres-
ent even if saving is inelastic with respect to interest rates and real
balances. According to the authors' model the reason tight money raised
real rates in 1979 was because it decreased desired saving, not because
reduction of the money supply forced up nominal rates in the money
markets much more rapidly than inflation could possibly subside.
While I am somewhat skeptical about the meaningfulness of a "world"
rate, particularly early in the sample period, focusing on an average of real
rates for a number of countries can be a useful enterprise even if world
capital markets are not perfectly integrated and the assets of different
countries are not perfect substitutes. Averaging real rates, investment
ratios and explanatory variables across countries wash out idiosyncratic
fluctuations, giving the investigator a better chance at detecting the impor-
tance of common factors such as oil-price shocks. Such shocks to the
world economy could have similar affects on many countries even if
capital markets are not integrated. But the authors' analysis does provides
them some evidence on the extent of integration.
How many countries need to be considered in analyzing the world
interest rate is another question. The authors assume their ten countries
are the entire world; hence they do not need to worry about an external
sector and the role that export demand and capital flows may play in the
determination of investment and interest rates. They argue that this is
not an unreasonable assumption since the countries represent approxi-
mately two-thirds of world output and because the observed current-
the account balance of the ten country aggregate has been small. As a
theoretical matter the fact that the current account balance tends to be
small is not a sufficient condition for treating a group of countries as
"closed"; on the empirical level the assumption rules out a major issue
surrounding the effect of the OPEC oil price increases, namely the extent
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to which the OPEC nations increased their demand for imports from the
oil-consuming nations, and "recycled" their increased income. In the
authors' model these oil-price increases are treated simply as a transitory
reduction in income, with a negative effect on saving.
IMPLEMENTATION
Like any empirical investigation, implementation of the authors' model
requires a multitude of judgments about specification and about the
empirical counterparts of the variables appearing in the theoretical
model. I found most of the authors' decisions sensible. Furthermore, the
authors are well aware of many of the potential difficulties with the
particular choices they have made. Nevertheless several specification
issues are worth mentioning.
2. "The"
Real Interest Rate
The expected real rate of interest is taken to be a short-term rate minus
expected inflation. The authors' recognize that it would be desirable to
extend the analysis to the rates on assets of longer maturities and differ-
ent risks. Longer rates are probably a better approximation to the cost of
capital than the short rate and its behavior is, if anything, more puzzling
than that of the short rate. The required rate of return on equity, presum-
ably more relevant to investment than the required rate on nominal
assets, not only contains a substantial risk premia but appears to vary
relative to the rates on nominal assets. A second concern is the authors'
use of consumer price indexes in converting to a real rate. Because of
OPEC and exchange rate fluctuations during the 1970s there was a sub-
stantial difference between the inflation in consumer prices and the
inflation of capital goods prices relevant to the cost of capital. Most firms
were not experiencing increases in their product or capital goods prices
as large as those faced by consumers. Hence, the authors may substan-
tially overstate the decline in the real rate relevant to investment-
expected and actual-during that period. The authors do report two
regressions with the nominal rate as the dependent variable and ex-
pected inflation as an additional explanatory variable. In these equations
the coefficients on the other variables are essentially the same as in
expected real rate equations, but the estimate on expected inflation is
less than one. In the case of the country rate equations the point estimate
is .562, over ten standard errors away from one. Taken at face value this
result suggests that the expected real rate is highly negatively correlated
with the level of inflation. The authors suggest that the result is likely to
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reflect measurement error in expected inflation, but it should be noted
that studies not subject to that problem, using the nominal rate to pre-
dict future inflation, get essentially the same result.
3. The
Investment
Equation
The investment equation is determined by "a q-like variable"; prior stock
returns and the change in the real rate are used to proxy for the change
in q. Investment demand is expressed as a ratio to GDP. Hence, the
elasticity of investment with respect to income is assumed to be one with
adjustments of investment to income entirely within the year. This as-
sumption is inconsistent with the results of most empirical work. Since
the authors use gross, not net investment, depreciation is implausibly
assumed to be a fixed proportion of income.
Stock returns are taken to be a proxy for future expected profits. Em-
pirically, stock returns do not do well in forecasting profits. For example,
a simple regression of the net rate of return on capital (private, nonfarm)
on two lags of the annual stock return yields insignificant coefficients
and an R2 of less than 4%. The stock market is forward looking, and it
seems likely market returns reflect expectations about a variety of factors
other than profits relevant to investment-including future monetary
policy, income, and inflation. Hence, the interpretation of the positive
coefficient on the market return is open to a wide variety of interpreta-
tions. For example, if the stock market does a good job forecasting infla-
tion and nominal rates do not fully adjust to inflation, then periods of
low market returns will be followed by low real rates (assuming inflation
is bad for the market for at a given real rate). While relating investment
to market returns is itself an achievement, it leaves us with an even
greater need to explain the market itself.
Investment is taken to be gross domestic capital formation, which
includes both residential and public investment. It does not seem likely
that stock returns are a good explanatory variable for either. The inclu-
sion of public investment also implicitly treats public investment as a
perfect substitute for private. This specification could help explain why
the authors find a significantly positive relationship between investment
and government deficits, a result they believe is opposite that predicted
by models where fiscal deficits lower national saving. If, in fact, govern-
ment investment is less than a perfect substitute for private, as seems
likely, then exogenous increases in public investment, correlated with
the deficit, would create a positive correlation between gross capital
formation and the deficit even with crowding out.
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4. The
Saving Equation
Saving, like investment, is gross of depreciation and expressed as a ratio
to income. Hence, the elasticity of saving with respect to current income
is one for a given ratio of transitory to permanent income. A conse-
quence of the assumption that both the investment and saving equations
are expressed in ratio form is that fluctuations in income can have sub-
stantial effects on investment and saving.
The relative price of oil is used as a measure of transitory income in the
saving equation and excluded from the investment equation, providing
identification. It could just as well be argued that it belongs in the invest-
ment equation. Some of the effect of changes in oil prices may be cap-
tured by stock market returns; however it can be argued that changes in
the relative price of oil may change the relationship between marginal
and average q. Stock returns are excluded from the saving equation,
thereby providing identification. For both wealth and rate of return rea-
sons it could be argued they belong.
Although their theoretical specification distinguishes between transi-
tory and permanent income, in their estimation the authors simply take
the relative price of oil as a measure of transitory income. The authors
make no attempt to econometrically distinguish between transitory and
permanent changes in income.
The authors test for Ricardian equivalence by introducing the real value
of government debt and its change (the "real deficit"), both cyclically
adjusted and unadjusted, in the saving function. These tests are not the
centerpiece of their study, but I would have preferred a more extensive
investigation of possible fiscal effects, particularly since some observers
have argued that fiscal deficits are partly responsible for the current high
level of real rates. There are a number of issues. I am skeptical that this
measure of the deficit is an adequate summary of the effect of government
fiscal policy on saving; it attempts to capture rather different fiscal events
in single a variable. First, in principle government consumption, govern-
ment investment, and taxes could have quite different effects. Indeed,
Ricardian theory itself distinguishes among these three. The authors do
report that an attempt to find effects of government consumption were
unsuccessful. Second, whether it is called money illusion or a distribution
effect, there is empirical evidence that the effect of a tax increase on saving
is different from that of a capital loss of the same dollar value. Further-
more, changes in real wealth due to changes in the price level may have a
different effect than changes in market value associated with changes in
interest rates. Lastly, it would be desirable to distinguish, for any of these
variables, between expected and unexpected changes.
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For testing Ricardian equivalence I would also have preferred a more
inclusive measure of government. The authors' fiscal measures do not
include state and local governments. For the United States, at any rate,
the combined government deficit is substantially different from the fed-
eral deficit in the latter part of the sample, with state and local surpluses
partially offsetting central deficits.
As I believe Lucas will discuss, the model gives no role to the rate of
growth of income or consumption in the determination of real rates.
Such differences, in theory, should be important in explaining differ-
ences in rates across countries.
5. Results
Notwithstanding these concerns about the econometric specification,
world stock returns and oil prices are estimated to have positive and
significant effects on world real interest rates. The reduced form equa-
tions explain approximately 90% of the fluctuations of interest rates and
85% of investment during the 1959-1988 period. The equations do un-
derpredict the decline in the expected real rate by approximately 1% for
the period 1975-80. Unexpected inflation was positive during most of
the period so the equations underpredict the actual real rate by more.
(The difference between expected and actual real rates was dramatic in
1973-74.) The equations do better in predicting the rise in the expected
real rate in the 1980s. The model's forecast of inflation, however, are
typically low during this period; hence actual real rates average about a
percent below the expected real rate.
Stock returns are the most important variable in explaining variations
in the real rate over the sample. For example, the estimates attribute
about 2.5% points of the approximately 4% rise in the expected real
rate between 1975 to 1980 and 1981 to 1986 to higher stock returns
during the later period. Oil prices are also important, their increase in
1975-1980 over the late 1960s partially offsets the increase attributed to
stock prices, and further increases are estimated to add 1.9% to the
expected real rate in the 1980s. Although monetary growth is signifi-
cant in the rate equations, world monetary contraction explains only a
small portion of the increase in real rate during the 1980s. Fiscal vari-
ables are not significant.
Investment is positively related to stock returns and negatively related
to oil prices, consistent with both the theory and the rate equations.
However, inconsistent with the predicted effect of monetary growth on
the real rate, it appears to have no effect on investment. Similarly, the
budget deficit variables appear to have substantial and significant posi-
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tive effects on investment even though they appear to have essentially
no effect on rates. The authors suggest the positive coefficients are incon-
sistent with the view that fiscal expansion lowers desired national sav-
ing. They need not be for at least two reasons. First, proponents of the
view that government deficits crowd out private investment are refer-
ring to the effect on national saving with output constant, either because
monetary policy offsets fiscal expansion or because the economy is oper-
ating at capacity. The authors do not control for output; endogenous
increases in output in response to fiscal stimulus would be expected to
increase saving, and could even induce increases in private investment.
Second, as discussed above, the fact that the authors have included
government investment in their investment series could explain a posi-
tive coefficient.
It is hard to argue against the proposition that nominal short-term rates
and expected exchange rate changes are tied together in international
financial markets. But given the poor performance of purchasing power
parity it would be more of a surprise if real rates were tightly tied together.
The authors investigate the degree of integration by introducing country
variables in the various estimated equations. If capital markets are well
integrated and assets close substitutes, individual countries' real rates
and investment should primarily reflect world variables rather than coun-
try variables; country saving, however, should reflect individual country
effects even if markets are integrated.
The authors' specification provides only a weak test of the integra-
tion hypothesis. Separate intercepts and the own-country lagged depen-
dent variable are included in both the rate and investment equations.
Hence, systematic differences in real rates are not taken as evidence
against the hypothesis and differences in average values of explanatory
variables across countries are not allowed to explain cross-country dif-
ferences in investment or interest rates. For example, high average
investment in Japan is not credited to a low-average real rate or high-
average stock return. The country intercepts and coefficients on lagged
own-country dependent variables that soak up these country effects are
highly significant.
In the rate equations world stock returns do hold up quite well in
competition with country returns. The coefficient (when constrained to
be equal across countries) is roughly the same as in the world rate
equation and own returns are insignificant. World money growth contin-
ues to be highly significant, whereas own money is marginally signifi-
cant and of the "wrong" sign. These results suggest a high degree of
integration and substitution between different countries assets; however
if the markets are well integrated and the assets close substitutes, the
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magnitude of the responses should also be equal. The authors' reject the
hypothesis of equality but find the rejection reflects significant differ-
ences for only two of the nine countries.
The integration hypothesis does less well in the case of investment.
The coefficients on world and country stock returns are about equal and
half the magnitude of world returns in the world rate equation. World
money, lagged world investment and real rates are all insignificant.
Tested jointly, world variables are insignificant; yet all three country-
specific variables are highly significant. The authors are puzzled by the
importance of own-country monetary expansion given the world rate is
insignificant and own money has the wrong sign in the rate equation.
One possible explanation is that investment shocks, with resultant in-
creases in the country's income, are partially accommodated by the
monetary authority. The significant, and "wrong" signed coefficient on
own money in the rate equation could be similarly explained; since own
investment does not appear to affect interest rates the shocks to income
would have to be from another source.
In some respects the paper is quite successful. The authors have
clearly identified important comovements of real rates, investment,
stock returns, and oil prices during this 30-year period. Furthermore,
they have shown that salient features of economic performance during
this period are worldwide, and that some phenomena are best explained
from a world perspective. The results, however, do not give strong
confirmation of the model. As the authors suggest, there is room to
interpret the coefficients on the two major "exogenous" variables-stock
prices and the relative price of oil-in alternative ways. Their work does
add to the evidence that the movements of the stock market are inti-
mately connected with investment and real rates-further whetting the
profession's appetite for a satisfying explanation of the market's own
behavior. The authors promise to continue working in this fruitful area
and I look with anticipation to reading their future work.
Comment
ROBERT
E. LUCAS,
JR.
The paper by Barro and Sala-i-Martin deals with the determination of
interest rates in nine OECD countries over the period 1959 to 1988, with
particular emphasis on the question of why real rates in all these coun-
tries were so high in the 1980s and so low in the 1970s. The authors
construct time series on real interest rates and other variables for each
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magnitude of the responses should also be equal. The authors' reject the
hypothesis of equality but find the rejection reflects significant differ-
ences for only two of the nine countries.
The integration hypothesis does less well in the case of investment.
The coefficients on world and country stock returns are about equal and
half the magnitude of world returns in the world rate equation. World
money, lagged world investment and real rates are all insignificant.
Tested jointly, world variables are insignificant; yet all three country-
specific variables are highly significant. The authors are puzzled by the
importance of own-country monetary expansion given the world rate is
insignificant and own money has the wrong sign in the rate equation.
One possible explanation is that investment shocks, with resultant in-
creases in the country's income, are partially accommodated by the
monetary authority. The significant, and "wrong" signed coefficient on
own money in the rate equation could be similarly explained; since own
investment does not appear to affect interest rates the shocks to income
would have to be from another source.
In some respects the paper is quite successful. The authors have
clearly identified important comovements of real rates, investment,
stock returns, and oil prices during this 30-year period. Furthermore,
they have shown that salient features of economic performance during
this period are worldwide, and that some phenomena are best explained
from a world perspective. The results, however, do not give strong
confirmation of the model. As the authors suggest, there is room to
interpret the coefficients on the two major "exogenous" variables-stock
prices and the relative price of oil-in alternative ways. Their work does
add to the evidence that the movements of the stock market are inti-
mately connected with investment and real rates-further whetting the
profession's appetite for a satisfying explanation of the market's own
behavior. The authors promise to continue working in this fruitful area
and I look with anticipation to reading their future work.
Comment
ROBERT
E. LUCAS,
JR.
The paper by Barro and Sala-i-Martin deals with the determination of
interest rates in nine OECD countries over the period 1959 to 1988, with
particular emphasis on the question of why real rates in all these coun-
tries were so high in the 1980s and so low in the 1970s. The authors
construct time series on real interest rates and other variables for each
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country and then aggregate these data to obtain series on a world econ-
omy, viewed as closed in the sense that savings and investment are
assumed to be equal. They report regression estimates of equations for
world real interest rates and world investment (relative to output), and
also report results of tests on the quality of the one-world abstraction
they use.
In my comments I will focus exclusively on the interest rate results,
first describing the procedures used in the study, next describing the
features of the results that are of most interest to me, and then interpret-
ing these results from a Fisherian viewpoint that differs from the theoreti-
cal framework used by the authors. After this, I offer some opinions on
the sources of interest rate movements over the last 30 years.
Barro and Sala-i-Martin begin by subtracting a calculated measure of
expected inflation, a distributed lag on past inflation rates, from each
country's nominal interest rate series. They call the result the "expected
real interest rate," and its weighted average over the countries in the
sample the "world real interest rate." This variable is then regressed on
its own lagged value, a lagged measure of world stock returns, lagged oil
prices, the lagged ratio of investment to GNP, and the lagged rate of
world money growth. Some fiscal variables are also used as regressors,
but their estimated effects are negligible.
Table 1 of the paper summarizes the behavior of these world variables
and of their counterparts for the individual countries. The main results
for the world interest rate are reported in Table 2. The responses of the
world real rate to the regressors are substantial. I will just report that we
used to call the "long-run" responses, obtained by multiplying the coeffi-
cients by one minus the coefficient on the lagged dependent variable. A
1% increase in stock returns (which averaged 2.2% over the period)
increases the real interest rate by 0.13%. A 10% increase in oil prices
(from its mean of 0.56) would add .045% to real interest rates. A 1%
increase in the world rate of money growth would reduce real rates by
0.52%. (These numbers are all taken from the coefficients in Table 2,
column 2.)
I was interested in the contributions of real and monetary forces in
explaining nominal interest rates, and so attempted to decompose the
variance of nominal rates based on the statistics reported in Table 2. This
is not quite possible from statistics reported in the paper, but assuming
enough orthogonality in the right places, one can get close. Let r be the
world nominal rate, let XT
be the explained part of the expected inflation
component, let p be the explained part of the expected real component,
and let E be an error: r = p + n7 + E. Assume that p, -r, and e are all
mutually uncorrelated, so that Var(r) = Var(p) + Var(Ir)
+ Var(E).
In this
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notation, column 2 of Table 2 is a regression of r-rr on p and column (5)
is a regression of r on p and ir. Then the R2 from column 2, .89, is an
estimate of Var(p)/[Var(p)
+ Var(E)].
The R2 from column (5), .96, is an
estimate of [Var(ir)
+ Var
(p)]/[Var7r)
+ Var(E)].
From either column 2 or 5,
Var(e) = (.0054)2. Then the implied variance of the explained real rate is
Var(p) = (.0154)2 = .000236. The implied variance of the explained infla-
tion premium is Var(ir) = (.0215)2 = .000464.
In summary, then, Barro and Sala-i-Martin view world nominal interest
rates as a well understood time series, with about .96 of its variance
explained. About one-third of this explained variation in due to real fac-
tors, and about two-thirds is attributed to expected inflation. According to
their estimates, world real interest rates were 2 or 3% higher in the 1980s
than in the 1970s. They attribute this difference to higher stock market
returns in the 1980s, and slower money growth and higher oil prices.
In evaluating these conclusions, I did not find the theoretical frame-
work offered in the paper especially helpful. Barro and Sala i Martin use
a Fisherian framework to remove the expected inflation rate from each
country's nominal rate series, and then switch to a kind of IS-LM set-up
to interpret movements in the real rate. Both lagged oil prices and lagged
money growth are introduced into a savings function, rationalized as
indicators of temporary income. (Oil price increases depress temporary
income, reduce savings, and increase real interest rates. Slow money
growth has the same effect.) Since temporary income is easy to measure
directly, I did not see the advantage of this indirect method. But my
understanding of the rationale for the separate savings and investment
functions the authors use an inadequate basis for any strong opinions as
to what variables belong on the right side of either equation. Anyway, it
is a free country and I suppose one can calculate any sample moments
one likes.
For myself, I prefer a more thoroughgoing Fisherian viewpoint for
thinking about real as well as monetary forces. According to Fisher, the
expected real rate can be expressed both as an expected marginal rate of
substitution between current and future consumption and as an ex-
pected marginal productivity of capital, so one can interpret the right
hand side of Barro and Sala i Martin's real interest rate equation as a
conditional expectation of either or both of these magnitudes. From this
point of view, some aspects of the world real interest results reported in
Table 2 seem qualitatively reasonable and some do not. An increase in
stock returns or in the lagged investment rate can be taken to reflect
optimism about future marginal products of capital that also raises real
interest rates. Effects of lagged money growth in either direction can be
rationalized, roughly speaking, in several ways. An increase in the price
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of a complementary factor of production, oil, ought to reduce the ex-
pected marginal product of capital and depress real interest rates, al-
though any quantitatively reasonable assessment of this effect that I
have seen suggests it is negligible.
But there is an asymmetry in Barro and Sala-i-Martin's treatment of real
and nominal forces on nominal interest rates that makes the results diffi-
cult to interpret in this Fisherian manner. The variables that agents are
assumed to use to form expectations on future inflation-lagged inflation
rates-have coefficients (in explaining nominal rates) that are taken from
regressions of actual inflation rates on lagged rates. That is to say, expecta-
tions of inflation are required to be rational. The variables that agents are
assumed to use to form expectations on future marginal productivities of
capital-stock returns, lagged investment, and oil prices-are simply in-
cluded on the right side of the real interest rate equation with coefficients
left free. The authors impose no requirement that agents' forecasts of real
returns be rational expectations of any observable magnitude. No evi-
dence is presented that any of these regressors conveys useful informa-
tion on future real returns to capital, or that the coefficients of any of these
variables are consistent with this information.
I think this is the reason that Barro and Sala-i-Martin's results seem so
much more successful than other recent attempts to account for interest
rate behavior in terms of fundamentals-variables that provide informa-
tion about the actual return on bonds. Hansen and Singleton (1983), for
example, found that the way nominal Treasury bill returns react to
lagged variables in U.S. monthly data does not correspond at all well to
the information these variables contain on future inflation rates or future
real returns. From Hansen and Singleton's viewpoint, interest rates are a
poorly understood time series, and we are thus in a poor position to say
why they moved however they did in any particular period. If Barro
and
Sala-i-Martin had required their expected real interest rate to be a ra-
tional expectation of future real returns, as Hansen and Singleton did
and as they themselves did with the expected inflation component, they
too would have concluded (I conjecture) that interest rates are poorly
understood series.
I hope it is clear that these are difficulties that arise within my pre-
ferred framework, not within Barro and Sala-i-Martin's. They use an IS-
LM framework that I do not understand and do not attempt to criticize
or interpret. What I have argued is that if one interprets their results
from a Fisherian viewpoint, both their decomposition of interest rate
movements into a real and expected inflation component and their con-
clusion that the real component is well explained by the lagged variables
they use are not especially convincing.
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In fairness, I should add that while I have been referring to the Fisherian
framework for thinking about interest rates, it is far from clear what this
framework is in an application involving many countries. Does one view
the entire world as operating in a full set of Arrow-Debreu markets? Or
should some assets be viewed as nontradable and, if so, which and why
are they not? By simply postulating investment and savings functions,
Barro and Sala-i-Martin have evaded these questions, but by discussing
the nine OECD countries as a single Fisherian economy, so have I.
Why were real interest rates so high in the 1980s? I think a discussant
who disputes a paper's answer to an interesting substantive question is
under some obligation to supply one of his own, and this I will do (with
suitable qualification). Consumption growth (in the United States) was
about 1 higher (.038) in the 1960s and 1980s than in the 1970s (.029).
Since the real rate is linear in the rate of consumption growth, with a
coefficient equal to the coefficient of risk aversion, one can explain per-
haps a 2 difference in interest rates between the 1980s and the 1970s as
real. This is an outside estimate, I think, since it assumes that the in-
creased consumption growth was expected and because I think a risk
aversion coefficient of 2 is on the high side.
Beyond this, I would attribute all the remaining difference in nominal
rates, and most of the year-to-year variance in these rates, to changes in
expected inflation rates. Throughout most of the 1970s, I think people in
the OECD countries expected inflation rates to be reduced to earlier
levels; throughout most of the 1980s, they expected high inflation to
resume. After the fact, these beliefs were proven wrong and for many
years they were less accurate than extrapolations based on inflation rates
in the recent past would have been. The alternative view, within a
Fisherian framework, is that people repeatedly underestimated real re-
turns on capital throughout the 1970s and then repeatedly overesti-
mated real returns through the 1980s.
The point is that people's expectations were wrong about something
during this period. We can choose to interpret these errors as mistakes in
forecasting the relatively smooth series on marginal rates of substitution
and transformation, or we can interpret them as errors in forecasting the
monetary and fiscal policies of the governments of the OECD countries.
This may seem an unattractive choice to have to make, and I suppose we
would all like to have some more options-but what are they?
REFERENCE
Hansen, L. P., and K. J. Singleton. 1983. Stochastic
consumption,
risk
aversion,
and the temporal
behavior of asset returns.
Journal
of Political
Economy
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Discussion
Barro responded to the discussants by noting that the treatment of pub-
lic investment does not affect the results. He also suggested the price of
oil could affect investment demand in addition to desired savings due to
differences in marginal and average q or to irreversibility of investment,
but that without better instruments they used just the price of oil.
Robert Hall noted in response to Robert Lucas that changes in con-
sumption are unrelated to interest rates, suggesting that there is a good
deal of noise in consumption. He also wondered whether the authors
should have considered the underlying fundamentals driving the finan-
cial variables. Barro replied that this would not present an econometric
problem.
Greg Mankiw noted that the paper examines ex-post interest rates and
suggested looking at ex-ante rates as well. Robert Lucas asked why the
authors did not interpret the issue in terms of marginal rates of substitu-
tion and transformation. John Cochrane suggested that marginal rates of
substitution are roughly constant through time.
David Wilcox noted that the authors were not doing a purely Ri-
cardian experiment since they did not control for expected government
spending in the regression. He also suggested the authors could impose
unified capital markets when looking at expected inflation in different
countries. Barro responded that they didn't have expected spending and
actual government spending was insignificant in the regressions.
Ben Bernanke suggested that the assumption that real interest rates
are the same in all countries requires purchasing power parity to hold.
He also noted that if the real interest rate is constant people consistently
over- or underestimate inflation.
Stanley Fischer noted that the deficit measure ignores monetary financ-
ing of the deficit. Barro responded that they would look at that issue.
Mankiw suggested that the authors were correct in choosing the frame-
work they did rather than focusing on marginal rates of substitution and
transformation. He also asked whether the authors had an explanation
for the relation between money changes and investment rates. Barro
responsed that they did not have a good explanation for this.

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