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217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual Revision 2.0 Cross The Road Electronics www.ctr-electronics.com Cross The Road Electronics Page 1 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 Table of Contents 1. CAN bus Device Basics ........................................................................................................10 1.1. Supported Hardware Platforms ..........................................................................................11 1.1.1. Cross The Road Electronics HERO Control System ................................................11 1.1.2. roboRIO FRC Control System ..................................................................................11 2. roboRIO Web-based Configuration: Firmware and diagnostics .............................................12 2.1. Device ID ranges................................................................................................................13 2.2. Common ID Talons ............................................................................................................14 2.2.1 – Light Device LED ...................................................................................................15 2.3. Firmware Field-upgrade a Talon SRX / Victor SPX ............................................................16 2.3.1. When I update firmware, I get “You do not have permissions…” ..............................18 2.3.2. What if Firmware Field-upgrade is interrupted? ........................................................20 2.3.3. Other Field-upgrade Failure Modes ..........................................................................21 2.3.4. Where to get CRF files? ...........................................................................................22 2.4. Self-Test ............................................................................................................................23 2.4.1. Clearing Sticky Faults ..............................................................................................25 2.5. Custom Names ..................................................................................................................26 2.5.1. Re-default custom name ..........................................................................................27 3. Creating a Talon Object (and the basics) ..............................................................................28 3.1. Programming API and Device ID ........................................................................................28 3.1.1 Including Libraries (FRC) ..........................................................................................28 3.1.2 Configuration API ......................................................................................................29 3.2. New Classes/Virtual Instruments ........................................................................................30 3.2.1 WPILIB Class integration ..........................................................................................30 3.2.2. LabVIEW ..................................................................................................................30 3.2.3. C++ ..........................................................................................................................31 3.2.4. Java .........................................................................................................................31 3.3. Setting Output Mode and Value .........................................................................................32 3.3.1. LabVIEW ..................................................................................................................32 3.3.2. C++ ..........................................................................................................................32 3.3.3. Java .........................................................................................................................32 3.3.4. Check Control Mode with Self-Test ..........................................................................32 3.4. WPILib RobotDrive Class ...................................................................................................33 Cross The Road Electronics Page 2 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 3.4.1. LabVIEW ..................................................................................................................33 3.4.2. C++ ..........................................................................................................................33 3.4.3. Java .........................................................................................................................33 4. Limit Switch and Neutral Brake Mode....................................................................................34 4.1. Default Settings ..................................................................................................................34 4.2. roboRIO Web-based Configuration: Limit Switch and Brake ..............................................35 4.3. Overriding Brake and Limit Switch with API........................................................................36 4.3.1. LabVIEW ..................................................................................................................37 4.3.2. C++ ..........................................................................................................................37 4.3.3. Java .........................................................................................................................38 5. Getting Status and Signals ....................................................................................................39 5.1. LabVIEW ............................................................................................................................40 5.2. C++ ....................................................................................................................................40 5.3. Java ...................................................................................................................................40 6. Setting the Ramp Rate ..........................................................................................................41 6.1. LabVIEW ............................................................................................................................41 6.2. C++/ Java...........................................................................................................................41 6.3. Web-based configuration limitations ...................................................................................42 7. Feedback Device (Sensor Feedback) ...................................................................................43 7.1. LabVIEW ............................................................................................................................43 7.2. C++ ....................................................................................................................................43 7.3. Java ...................................................................................................................................44 7.4. Correcting sensor direction, best practices. ........................................................................45 7.5. Supported Feedback Devices ............................................................................................46 7.5.1. Quadrature ...............................................................................................................46 7.5.2. Analog (Potentiometer / Encoder) ............................................................................46 7.5.3. Pulse Width Decoder................................................................................................47 7.5.4. Cross The Road Electronics Magnetic Encoder (Absolute and Relative) ..................47 7.6. Multiple Talon SRXs and single sensor ..............................................................................49 7.7. Pulse Width - Checking Sensor Health...............................................................................49 7.8. Velocity Measurement ........................................................................................................50 7.8.1. Changing Velocity Measurement Parameters. .........................................................50 7.8.2. Recommended Procedure .......................................................................................52 Cross The Road Electronics Page 3 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 7.8.3. Self-Test Velocity Settings .......................................................................................53 7.9. Tachometer Measurement .................................................................................................54 7.9.1. Tachometer Measurement – LabVIEW ....................................................................54 7.9.2. Tachometer Measurement – Java ............................................................................54 7.9.2. Tachometer Measurement – C++.............................................................................55 8. Soft Limits .............................................................................................................................56 8.1. LabVIEW ............................................................................................................................57 8.2. C++ ....................................................................................................................................57 8.3. Java ...................................................................................................................................57 9. Special Features ...................................................................................................................58 9.1. Follower Mode ...................................................................................................................58 9.1.1. LabVIEW ..................................................................................................................58 9.1.2. C++ ..........................................................................................................................58 9.1.3. Java .........................................................................................................................58 9.1.4. Correcting Follower Direction ...................................................................................59 9.2. Voltage Compensation .......................................................................................................60 9.2.1. LabVIEW ..................................................................................................................60 9.2.2. C++ ..........................................................................................................................61 9.2.3. Java .........................................................................................................................61 9.2.4. Self-Test ..................................................................................................................61 9.3. Current Limits.....................................................................................................................62 9.3.1. Current Limit – LabVIEW ..........................................................................................62 9.3.2. Current Limit – C++ ..................................................................................................62 9.3.3. Current Limit – Java .................................................................................................62 10. Control Modes (Closed-Loop) .............................................................................................63 10.1. Position Closed-Loop Control Mode .................................................................................64 10.2. Current Closed-Loop Control Mode ..................................................................................64 10.3. Velocity Closed-Loop Control Mode .................................................................................65 10.4. Motion Profile Control Mode .............................................................................................65 10.5. Peak/Nominal Output .......................................................................................................66 10.5.1. Peak/Nominal Closed-Loop Output – LabVIEW .....................................................67 10.5.2. Peak/Nominal Closed-Loop Output – C++..............................................................67 10.5.3. Peak/Nominal Closed-Loop Output – Java .............................................................67 Cross The Road Electronics Page 4 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 10.5.4. Peak/Nominal Closed-Loop Output – Web based Configuration Self-Test .............67 10.6. Allowable Closed-Loop Error ............................................................................................68 10.6.1. Allowable Closed-Loop Error – LabVIEW ...............................................................68 10.6.2. Allowable Closed-Loop Error – C++ .......................................................................69 10.6.3. Allowable Closed-Loop Error – Java ......................................................................69 10.6.4. Allowable Closed-Loop Error – Web based Configuration Self-Test .......................69 10.7. Motion Magic Control Mode .............................................................................................70 11. Motor Control Profile Parameters ........................................................................................72 11.1. Persistent storage and Reset/Startup behavior ................................................................73 11.2. Inspecting Signals ............................................................................................................75 12. Closed-Loop Code Excerpts/Walkthroughs .........................................................................76 12.1. Setting Motor Control Profile Parameters .........................................................................76 12.1.1. LabVIEW ................................................................................................................76 12.1.2. C++ ........................................................................................................................77 12.1.3. Java .......................................................................................................................77 12.2. Setting/Clearing Integral Accumulator (I Accum) ..............................................................77 12.2.1. LabVIEW ................................................................................................................77 12.2.3. Java .......................................................................................................................78 12.2.4. C++ ........................................................................................................................78 12.2.3. Is Integral Accum cleared any other time?..............................................................78 12.3. Current Closed-Loop Walkthrough – LabVIEW ................................................................79 12.3.1. Current Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Collect Sensor Data – LabVIEW ...................79 12.3.2. Current Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Calculating Feed Forward– LabVIEW ...........79 12.3.3. Current Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Dialing Proportional Gain – LabVIEW ...........82 12.4. Velocity Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Java .......................................................................84 12.4.1. Velocity Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Collect Sensor Data – Java ..........................84 12.4.2. Velocity Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Calculating Feed Forward– Java ..................85 12.4.3. Velocity Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Dialing Proportional Gain – Java ..................87 12.5. Velocity Closed-Loop Example – LabVIEW ......................................................................88 12.6. Motion Magic Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Java...............................................................89 12.6.1. Motion Magic Closed-Loop Walkthrough – General Requirements.........................90 12.6.2. Motion Magic Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Collect Sensor Data – Java .................91 12.6.3. Motion Magic Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Calculate F-Gain – Java ......................93 Cross The Road Electronics Page 5 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 12.6.4. Motion Magic Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Initial Cruise-Velocity/Acceleration – Java ...................................................................................................................................94 12.6.5. Motion Magic Closed-Loop Walkthrough – P-Gain – Java ......................................96 12.6.6. Motion Magic Closed-Loop Walkthrough – D-Gain – Java ...................................100 12.6.7. Motion Magic Closed-Loop Walkthrough – I-Gain – Java .....................................101 13. Setting Sensor Position .....................................................................................................102 13.1. Setting Sensor Position – LabVIEW ...............................................................................102 13.2. Setting Sensor Position – C++ .......................................................................................102 13.3. Setting Sensor Position – Java.......................................................................................102 13.4. Auto Clear Position using Index Pin ...............................................................................102 13.4.1. Setting Sensor Position – LabVIEW .....................................................................103 13.4.2. Setting Sensor Position – Java.............................................................................103 13.4.3. Setting Sensor Position – C++ .............................................................................103 14. Fault Flags ........................................................................................................................104 14.1. Fault Flags - LabVIEW ...................................................................................................104 14.2. Fault Flags - C++ ...........................................................................................................105 14.3. Fault Flags - Java...........................................................................................................106 14.4. Fault Flags – Clearing ....................................................................................................106 15. CAN bus Utilization/Error metrics ......................................................................................107 15.1. How many Talons can we use? ......................................................................................108 16. Troubleshooting Tips and Common Questions ..................................................................109 16.1. When I press the B/C CAL button, the brake LED does not change, neutral behavior does not change. .............................................................................................................................109 16.2. The robot is TeleOperated/Autonomous enabled, but the Talon SRX continues to blink orange (disabled). ...................................................................................................................109 16.3. When I attach/power a particular Talon SRX to CAN bus, The LEDs on every Talon SRX occasionally blink red. Motor drive seems normal. .................................................................109 16.4. If I have a slave Talon SRX following a master Talon SRX, and the master Talon SRX is disconnected/unpowered, what will the slave Talon SRX do? .................................................109 16.5. Is there any harm in creating a software Talon SRX for a device ID that’s not on the CAN bus? Will removing a Talon SRX from the CAN bus adversely affect other CAN devices? .....110 16.6. Driver Station log says “Firm Vers could not be retrieved”. .............................................110 16.7. Driver Station log says “Firmware too old” ......................................................................110 16.8. Why are there multiple ways to get the same sensor data? GetSensorCollection().GetEncoder() versus GetSelectedSensor()? .................110 Cross The Road Electronics Page 6 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 16.9. All CAN devices have red LEDs. Recommended Preliminary checks for CAN bus. ......111 16.10. Driver Station reports “MotorSafetyHelper.cpp: A timeout…”, motor drive no longer works. roboRIO Web-based Configuration says “No Drive” mode? Driver Station reports error 44075? ....................................................................................................................................112 16.11. Motor drive stutters, misbehaves? Intermittent enable/disable? ...................................112 16.12. What to expect when devices are disconnected in roboRIO’s Web-based Configuration. Failed Self-Test? .....................................................................................................................113 16.13. How do I get the raw ADC value (or voltage) on the Analog Input pin? ........................114 16.14. Recommendation for using relative sensors. ................................................................114 16.15. Does anything get reset or lost after firmware updates? ...............................................115 16.16. Analog Position seems to be stuck around ~100 units? ...............................................115 16.17. Limit switch behavior doesn’t match expected settings. ................................................116 16.18. How fast can I control just ONE Talon SRX? ................................................................117 16.19. Expected symptoms when there is excessive signal reflection. ....................................117 16.20. LabVIEW application reads incorrect Sensor Position. Sensor Position jumps to zero or is missing counts. ....................................................................................................................117 16.21. CAN devices do not appear in the roboRIO Web-based config. ...................................118 16.22. When I make a change to a setting in the roboRIO Web-based configuration and immediately flash firmware into the Talon, the setting does not stick? .....................................118 16.23. My mechanism has multiple Talon SRXs and one sensor. Can I still use the closedloop/motion-profile modes? .....................................................................................................119 16.24. My Closed-Loop is not working? Now what? ...............................................................119 16.24.1. Make sure Talon has latest firmware. .................................................................119 16.24.2. Confirm sensor is in phase with motor. ...............................................................119 16.24.3. Confirm Slave/Follower Talons are driving .........................................................119 16.24.4. Drive (Master) Talon manually ...........................................................................119 16.24.5. Re-enable Closed-Loop .....................................................................................119 16.24.6. Start with a simple gain set.................................................................................120 16.24.7. Confirm gains are set .........................................................................................121 16.25. Where can I find application examples? .......................................................................121 16.26. Can RobotDrive be used with Talon SRXs? What if there are six Talons? ..................122 16.27. How fast does the closed-loop run? .............................................................................123 16.28. Driver Station log reports: The transmission queue is full. Wait until frames in the queue have been sent and try again. .................................................................................................123 17. Units and Term Definitions ................................................................................................124 Cross The Road Electronics Page 7 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 17.1. Signal Definitions and Sensor Units ...............................................................................124 17.1.1. (Quadrature) Encoder Position .............................................................................124 17.1.2. Analog (Encoder/Potentiometer) ..........................................................................124 17.1.3. Motor output .........................................................................................................124 17.1.4. (Open-Loop) Ramp ..............................................................................................125 17.1.5. (Closed-Loop) Ramp ............................................................................................125 17.1.6. Integral Zone (I Zone)...........................................................................................125 17.1.7. Integral Accumulator (I Accum) ............................................................................125 17.1.8. Motor Invert ..........................................................................................................125 17.1.9. Sensor Phase ......................................................................................................125 17.1.10. Closed-Loop Error ..............................................................................................125 17.1.11. Closed-Loop gains .............................................................................................126 17.2. Sensor Resolutions ........................................................................................................126 18. How is the closed-loop implemented? ...............................................................................127 19. Motor Safety Helper ..........................................................................................................129 19.1. Best practices ................................................................................................................129 19.2. C++ example ..................................................................................................................130 19.3. Java example .................................................................................................................130 19.4. LabVIEW Example .........................................................................................................130 19.5. RobotDrive .....................................................................................................................130 20. Going deeper - How does the framing work? ....................................................................131 20.1. General Status 1 ............................................................................................................131 20.2. Feedback0 Status 2 .......................................................................................................131 20.3. Quadrature Encoder Status 3 .........................................................................................131 20.4. Analog Input / Temperature / Battery Voltage Status 4 ...................................................132 20.5. Pulse Width Status 8 ......................................................................................................132 20.6. Targets Status 10 (Motion Profile and Motion Magic) .....................................................132 20.7. PIDF0 Status 13 .............................................................................................................132 20.8. Modifying Status Frame Period ......................................................................................133 20.8.1. C++ ......................................................................................................................133 20.8.2. Java .....................................................................................................................133 20.8.3. LabVIEW ..............................................................................................................133 20.9. Control Frame (Control 3) ..............................................................................................134 Cross The Road Electronics Page 8 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 20.10. Modifying the Control Frame Period .............................................................................134 20.10.1. Modifying the Control Frame Rate – C++ ...........................................................134 20.10.2. Modifying the Control Frame Rate – Java ..........................................................134 20.10.3. Modifying the Control Frame Rate – LabVIEW ...................................................134 21. Functional Limitations .......................................................................................................135 21.1. roboRIO power up: User should manually refresh the web-based configuration after rebooting roboRIO. .................................................................................................................135 21.2. Phoenix 5.1.3.1: Motion profile disabled in 2018 kickoff firmware. ..................................135 21.3. Two sets of Param declarations for auto-clear position parameters................................135 21.4. getClosedLoopTarget() return milliamperes. ..................................................................135 21.5. Auto-clear position feature on Quadrature Idx only works for rising edges. ....................136 22. CRF Firmware Version Information ...................................................................................137 23. Document Revision Information ........................................................................................137 TO OUR VALUED CUSTOMERS It is our intention to provide our valued customers with the best documentation possible to ensure successful use of your CTRE products. To this end, we will continue to improve our publications, examples, and support to better suit your needs. If you have any questions or comments regarding this document, or any CTRE product, please contact support@crosstheroadelectronics.com To obtain the most recent version of this document, please visit www.ctr-electronics.com. Cross The Road Electronics Page 9 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 1. CAN bus Device Basics Talon SRX, when used with CAN bus, has similar functional requirements with other FRC supported CAN devices. Specifically, every Talon SRX requires a unique device ID for typical FRC use (settings, control and status). The device ID is usually expressed as a number between ‘0’ and ‘62’, allowing use for up to 63 Talon SRXs at once. This range does not intercept with device IDs of other CAN device types. For example, there is no harm in having a Pneumatics Control Module (PCM) and a Talon SRX both with device ID ‘0’. However, having two Talon SRXs with device ID ‘0’ will be problematic. Talon SRXs are field upgradable, and the firmware shipped with your Talon SRX will predate the “latest and greatest” tested firmware intended for FRC use. Firmware update can be done easily using the FRC roboRIO Web-based Configuration. Talon SRX provides two pairs of twisted CANH (yellow) and CANL (green) allowing for daisy chaining. Unlike previous seasons, the CAN termination resistors are built into the FRC robot controller (roboRIO) and in the Power Distribution Panel (PDP) assuming the PDP’s termination jumper is in the ON position. More information on wiring and hardware requirements can be found in the Talon SRX User’s Guide. This guide references Talon SRX in most of the content, however much of this content also relates to Victor SPX. Cross The Road Electronics Page 10 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 1.1. Supported Hardware Platforms 1.1.1. Cross The Road Electronics HERO Control System The CTR HERO Control System board allows developers to utilize all features of the Talon SRX. It is meant for education, custom development, and integration of Talon SRX into existing applications. The HERO also provides a method for field upgrading Talons to non-FRC firmware. It is the ideal development kit for learning and integrating the Talon into custom applications! Applications are developed in Visual Studio 2017 (C#) using .NETMF framework. Be sure to look for the for HERO related tips. 1.1.2. roboRIO FRC Control System The only legal robot controller for FRC competition. This requires the FRC version of Talon SRX firmware. The roboRIO supports CAN bus and provides a Web-based configuration for reflashing and diagnostics. Be sure to look for the for FRC related tips. Cross The Road Electronics Page 11 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 2. roboRIO Web-based Configuration: Firmware and diagnostics A useful diagnostic feature in the FRC Control system is the roboRIO’s Web-based Configuration and Monitoring page. This provides diagnostic information on all discovered CAN devices, including Talon SRXs. Talon SRXs can also be field-upgraded using this interface. This feature is accessible by entering the mDNS name of your robot in a web browser, typically roborio-XXXXfrc.local where XXXX is the team number (no leading zeros for three digit team numbers). Web-based Configuration is not installed by default. User must install Phoenix Framework and run the roboRIO-Upgrade procedure in Phoenix LifeBoat. The installer can be found at ctr-electronics.com Because Chrome no longer supports NPAPI, Silverlight will not function. Internet Explorer functions adequately though refreshing the page (F5 or CNTRL+R) often leaves an empty page. The workaround is to simple create a new tab with the same URL. Cross The Road Electronics Page 12 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 2.1. Device ID ranges A Talon SRX can have a device ID from 0 to 62. 63 is reserved for broadcast. If you select an invalid ID, you will get an immediate prompt. Cross The Road Electronics Page 13 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 2.2. Common ID Talons During initial setup (and when making changes to your robot), there may be occasions where the CAN bus contains multiple running Talon SRXs with the same device ID. “Common ID” Talon SRXs are to be avoided since they prevent reliable communication and prevents your robot application from being able to distinguish one Talon SRX from another. However, the roboRIO’s Web-based Configuration and Talon SRX firmware is designed to be tolerant of this problem condition to a degree. No two Talon SRXs should have the same ID. No two Victor SPXs should have the same ID. However, a Talon and Victor can have the same ID. If there are “common ID” Talons, they will reveal themselves as a single tree element (see image below). In this example, there is only one “Talon SRX (Device ID 0)” graphical element on the left, however the software status shows that there are three detected Talon SRXs with that device ID. If the number of “common ID” Talon SRXs is small (typically five or less) you will still be able to firmware update, modify settings, and change the device ID. This makes solving device ID contentions possible without having to isolate/disconnect “common ID” Talon SRXs. Cross The Road Electronics Page 14 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 When “common ID” Talon SRXs are present, correct this condition by changing the device ID to a “free” number, (one not already in use) before doing anything else. Then manually refresh the browser. This allows the web page to re-populate the left tree view with a new device ID. Since the web page allows control of one Talon SRX at a time, you may need to determine which “common ID” Talon SRX you are modifying. Checking the “Light Device LED” and pressing “Save” can be used to identify which physical Talon SRX is selected, and therefore which one will be modified. This will cause the selected Talon SRX to blink its LEDs uniquely (fast orange blink) for easy identification. In the unlikely event the device is in boot-loader (orange/green LED), it will still respond to this by increasing the blink rate of the orange/green pattern. The “Light Device LED” will uncheck itself after pressing “Save”. 2.2.1 – Light Device LED Tip: Since the default device ID of an “out of the box” Talon SRX is device ID ‘0’, start assigning device IDs at ’1’. That way you can, at any time, add another default Talon to your bus and easily identify it. Tip: Light Device LED can also be used to clear sticky faults. Cross The Road Electronics Page 15 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 2.3. Firmware Field-upgrade a Talon SRX / Victor SPX Talon SRX firmware file is a CRF file. To firmware flash a Talon SRX, navigate to the following page and select it in the left tree view. To get the latest firmware files see Section 2.3.4. Where to get CRF files? Press “Update Firmware”. Cross The Road Electronics Page 16 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 Select the firmware file (*.crf) to flash. You will be prompted again, press “Begin Update”. A progress bar will appear and finish with the following prompt. Total time to field-upgrade a Talon SRX is approximately ten seconds. The progress bar will fill quickly, then pause briefly at the near end, this is expected. Cross The Road Electronics Page 17 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 2.3.1. When I update firmware, I get “You do not have permissions…” If you get the following error… ...then log into the web interface using the username “admin”. The user name is “admin” and the password is blank “”. Don’t enter any keys for password. Additionally, you can modify permissions to allow field upgrade without being asked for login every single time. If security isn’t a concern, then modify the permissions so that “anyone” can access “FirmwareUpdate” features. Click on the key/lock icon in the left icon list. Cross The Road Electronics Page 18 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 Then click on the “Permissions” tab. Select “FirmwareUpdate”, then press “Add” button. Select everyone, then OK. Click “Save” to save changes. Cross The Road Electronics Page 19 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 2.3.2. What if Firmware Field-upgrade is interrupted? Because ten seconds is plenty of time for power or CAN bus to be disconnected, it is always possible for a field-update to be interrupted. An error code will be reported if the firmware fieldupdate is interrupted or fails. Additionally, the Software Status will report “Bootloader” and Firmware Revision will be 255.255 (blank). If a Talon SRX has no firmware, its boot-loader will take over and blink green/yellow on the device’s corresponding LED. It will also keep its device ID, so the roboRIO can still be used to change the device ID or (re)flash a new application firmware (crf). This means you can reattempt field-upgrade using the same web interface. There is no need for any sort of recovery steps, nor is it necessary to isolate no-firmware Talon SRXs. Example capture of disconnecting the CAN bus in the middle of a firmware-upgrade… Cross The Road Electronics Page 20 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 2.3.3. Other Field-upgrade Failure Modes Here’s an example error when trying to flash the wrong CRF into the wrong product. The device will harmlessly stay in boot-loader, ready to be (re)flashed again. Here’s what to expect if your CRF file is corrupted (different errors depending on where the file is corrupted). The device will harmlessly stay in boot-loader, ready to be (re)flashed again. Redownloading the CRF firmware file is recommended if this is occurring persistently. Here’s what to expect if you flash the wrong product’s CRF. For example, if you try to flash the CRF for the Power Distribution Panel (PDP) into a Talon SRX, you will get an error prompt. Cross The Road Electronics Page 21 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 2.3.4. Where to get CRF files? The FRC Software installer will create a directory with various firmware files/tools for many control system components. Typically, the path is “C:\Users\Public\Documents\FRC”. When the path is entered, the browser may fix-up the path into “C:\Users\Public\Public Documents\FRC”. This is typical in Windows. In this directory are the initial release firmware CRF files for all CTRE CAN bus devices, including the Talon SRX. The latest firmware to be used at time of writing is version 3.X (where X is the minor version). TIP: Additionally, newer updates may be provided online at http://www.ctr-electronics.com. FRC: Be sure to watch for team updates for what is legal and required! Cross The Road Electronics Page 22 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 2.4. Self-Test Pressing Self-Test will display data captured from CAN bus at the time of press. This can include fault states, sensor inputs, output states, measured battery voltage, etc. At the bottom of the Self-Test results, the build time of the library that implements web-based CAN features is also present. Here’s an example of pressing “Self-Test” with Talon SRX. Be sure to check if Talon SRX is ENABLED or DISABLED. If Talon SRX is DISABLED, then either the robot is disabled or the robot application has not yet created a Talon SRX object (see Section 3. Creating a Talon SRX Object (and basic drive) . Cross The Road Electronics Page 23 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 After enabling the robot and repressing “Self-Test” we see the Talon SRX is enabled. Additionally, we see there is a sticky fault asserted for low battery voltage and reset during enable (talon was powered cycled during robot enable). Sticky faults persist across power cycles for identifying intermittent problems after they occur. They can be cleared via robot API, or via the “Light Device ID” checkbox. Cross The Road Electronics Page 24 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 2.4.1. Clearing Sticky Faults Use the “Light Device LED” checkbox to clear the sticky faults and illuminate the device LEDs (rapid orange blink). Cross The Road Electronics Page 25 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 2.5. Custom Names Another feature made available by the Web-based Configuration is the ability to rename Talon SRXs with custom string descriptions. A Talon SRX’s custom name is saved persistently inside the Talon. To modify the default name, highlight the contents of the “Name” text entry. …then replace with a custom text description and press “Save”. The new description will appear in the left tree view. Cross The Road Electronics Page 26 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 2.5.1. Re-default custom name To re-default the custom name, clear the “Name” text entry and press “Save”. Left tree view will update with a temporary name until the “Refresh” button is pressed. After pressing “Refresh” the default name will appear. Cross The Road Electronics Page 27 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 3. Creating a Talon Object (and the basics) 3.1. Programming API and Device ID Regardless of what language you use on the FRC control system (LabVIEW/C++/Java), the method for specifying which Talon SRX you are programmatically controlling is the device ID. Although the roboRIO Web-based Configuration is tolerant of “common ID” Talon SRXs to a point, the robot programming API will not enable/control “common ID” Talons reliably. For the robot to function properly, there CANNOT BE “COMMON ID” Talon SRXs. See Section 2.2. Common ID Talons for more information. TIP: Example projects for Talon SRX can also be found in the CTR GitHub account. https://github.com/CrossTheRoadElec/Phoenix-Examples-LabVIEW https://github.com/CrossTheRoadElec/Phoenix-Examples-Languages Additional documentation may be found here… https://github.com/CrossTheRoadElec/Phoenix-Documentation 3.1.1 Including Libraries (FRC) To use Talon SRX libraries, FRC Teams need to download and install the Phoenix Framework v5, which can be found on the CTR Electronics website. Once the libraries have been installed, users can simply add them to their project using standard import/include statements. For Java, users should add an import statement as follows: import com.ctre.phoenix.motorcontrol.can.TalonSRX; If using Eclipse IDE, typically the IDE will recommend imports as class names are typed into the Java source. Click on Import ‘TalonSRX’ to auto insert the import line. For C++, users should add the single include for Phoenix. #include "ctre/Phoenix.h" LabVIEW users will find the CAN Talon SRX VIs in a new CTRE subpalette. Cross The Road Electronics Page 28 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 3.1.2 Configuration API Talon SRX and Victor SPX have many configuration functions / VIs. These are recognizable as having the config* prefix, and a trailing parameter called timeoutMs. These functions manipulate parameters that are persistent within the motor controller, and therefore do not need to be called periodically unless the parameter value is genuinely changing as a requirement of the robot (which is not typical). As an example, functions such as configOpenloopRamp and configClosedloopRamp exist to allow for once-on-boot configuration without having to continually change the ramp depending on use. 3.1.2.1. Configuration API - timeoutMs Since most config* calls occur during the robot boot sequence, the recommended value for timeoutMs is 10 (ms). This ensures that each config will wait up to 10ms to ensure the configuration was applied correctly, otherwise an error message will appear on the Driver station. This is also the case for setting/homing sensor values. For configuration calls that are done during the robot loop, the recommended value for timeoutMs is zero, which ensures no blocking or checking is performed (identical to the implementation in previous seasons). 3.1.2.2. Factory Default The configuration values can be factory defaulted by holding the B/C CAL on power boot and confirming rapid green LEDs. This will default all configurable parameters except for device ID and neutral brake. This should be done when replacing/swapping TalonSRXs/VictorSPXs, otherwise the developer will need to set every config routine to ensure all parameters are set to the desired values. Cross The Road Electronics Page 29 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 3.2. New Classes/Virtual Instruments C++/Java now contains a new class TalonSRX (.h/.cpp/.java). CANTalon has been replaced with TalonSRX. Java TalonSRX and parent class is documented…. http://www.ctr-electronics.com/downloads/api/java/html/com/ctre/phoenix/motorcontrol/can/TalonSRX.html http://www.ctr-electronics.com/downloads/api/java/html/com/ctre/phoenix/motorcontrol/can/BaseMotorController.html C++ TalonSRX and parent class is documented…. http://www.ctr-electronics.com/downloads/api/cpp/html/classctre_1_1phoenix_1_1motorcontrol_1_1can_1_1_talon_s_r_x.html http://www.ctr-electronics.com/downloads/api/cpp/html/classctre_1_1phoenix_1_1motorcontrol_1_1can_1_1_base_motor_controller.html 3.2.1 WPILIB Class integration Note: To use the various WPILIB features (Motor-safety, drive train classes, LiveWindow, etc), developers should use the WPI_TalonSRX and WPI_VictorSPX classes. These are subclasses that implement the various WPILIB interfaces. This also includes a single parameter set() that defaults the motor controller into PercentOutput mode. LabVIEW contains a new palette for Victor SPX and Talon SRX. The VI locations are documented here…. https://github.com/CrossTheRoadElec/Phoenix-Documentation#labview---where-are-the-vis 3.2.2. LabVIEW Creating a “bare-bones” Talon SRX or Victor SPX object is similar to previously supported motor controllers. Start by using the OPEN VI and register a unique motor description. Create a constant for the “Device Number. The control mode is set later via the SET vi. Enter the appropriate Device ID that was selected in the roboRIO Web-based Configuration. Also, similarly to other motor controllers, you may register a custom string reference to reference the motor controller by description in other block diagrams. Cross The Road Electronics Page 30 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 3.2.3. C++ When using a programming language, the API classes for the CAN Motor controllers are called TalonSRX/ VictorSPX (.cpp/.h/.java). When the object is constructed, the device ID is the single parameter. Note: use WPI_TalonSRX/WPI_VictorSPX instead, when using WPILIB features such as motor-safety or drivetrain objects. 3.2.4. Java When a TalonSRX/VictorSPX object is constructed in Java, the device ID is the first parameter. Note: use WPI_TalonSRX/WPI_VictorSPX instead, when using WPILIB features such as motor-safety or drivetrain objects. public class Robot extends IterativeRobot { TalonSRX talon = new TalonSRX(4); Joystick joy = new Joystick(0); /** * This function is called periodically during operator control. */ @Override public void teleopPeriodic() { talon.set(ControlMode.PercentOutput, joy.getY()); } Cross The Road Electronics Page 31 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 3.3. Setting Output Mode and Value After a Talon software object is created, the Talon SRX mode and output can be changed using the Set routine/VI. This season’s set routine takes both the Control Mode and the output parameter. Because the output value is dependent on the control mode, the user must specify both. This produces cleaner robot code that is simpler to troubleshoot. 3.3.1. LabVIEW The control mode and output is specified using the same SET VI. Select PercentOutput to directly control the output. The SET value is the percent output with a range of [-1,1]. Note when using the standard Set Output VI, the control mode is set to PercentOutput. This is because the Set Output VI was designed for “simple” motor controllers. 3.3.2. C++ The function Set() can be used to change the Talon SRX mode and output value. talon.Set(ControlMode.PercentOutput, joy.getY()); 3.3.3. Java The function set() can be used to change the Talon SRX mode and output value. talon.set(ControlMode.PercentOutput, joy.getY()); 3.3.4. Check Control Mode with Self-Test The Self-Test can be used to confirm the desired mode of the Talon SRX (PercentOutput, Follower, Position Closed-Loop, Velocity Closed-Loop, etc.). Example Self-Test Cross The Road Electronics Page 32 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 3.4. WPILib RobotDrive Class The Robotdrive class is maintained by WPILib. Any source intended to use these classes should create WPI_TalonSRX and WPI_VictorSPX objects. These classes inherit the TalonSRX and Victor SPX classes, and implement the various WPILib interfaces. 3.4.1. LabVIEW The RoboDrive Vis are typically located in WPI Robotics Library -> RobotDrive. To use Talon SRX with either the 2 or 4 motor options, first use a Talon SRX Open Motor VI. The RefNum output is then wired to the input of the Open 2/4 Motor VI when the “Existing Motors” drop-down option is selected. The RobotDrive RefNum Set is then used as normal. 3.4.2. C++ RobotDrive is included in WPILib.h. Construct the appropriate WPI_TalonSRX objects and pass them to the RobotDrive constructor. FrontLeftMotor = new WPI_TalonSRX(1); FrontRightMotor = new WPI_TalonSRX(2); RearLeftMotor = new WPI_TalonSRX(3); RearRightMotor = new WPI_TalonSRX(4); drive = new RobotDrive(FrontLeftMotor, RearLeftMotor, FrontRightMotor, RearRightMotor); 3.4.3. Java RobotDrive is included in WPILib. Construct the appropriate WPI_TalonSRX objects and pass them to the RobotDrive constructor. FrontLeftMotor = new WPI_TalonSRX(1); FrontRightMotor = new WPI_TalonSRX(2); RearLeftMotor = new WPI_TalonSRX(3); RearRightMotor = new WPI_TalonSRX(4); drive = new RobotDrive(FrontLeftMotor, RearLeftMotor, FrontRightMotor, RearRightMotor); Cross The Road Electronics Page 33 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 4. Limit Switch and Neutral Brake Mode 4.1. Default Settings An “out of the box” Talon will default with the limit switch setting of “Normally Open” for both forward and reverse. This means that motor drive is allowed when a limit switch input is not closed (i.e. not connected to ground). When a limit switch input is closed (is connected to ground) the Talon SRX will disable motor drive and individually blink both LEDs red in the direction of the fault (red blink pattern will move towards the M+/white wire for positive limit fault, and towards M-/green wire for negative limit fault). An “out of the box” Talon SRX will typically have a default brake setting of “Brake during neutral”. The B/C CALL button will be illuminated red (brake enabled). Since an “out of the box” Talon will likely not be connected to limit switches (at least not initially) and because limit switch inputs are internally pulled high (i.e. the switch is open), the limit switch feature is default to “normally open”. This ensures an “out of the box” Talon will drive even if no limit switches are connected. For more information on Limit Switch wiring/setup, see the Talon SRX User’s Guide. Forward Limit Switch Mode Limit Switch NO pin Limit Switch NC pin Limit Switch COM pin Normally Open pin4 N.A. pin10 Y N ~2.5V 0V Normally Closed N.A. pin4 pin10 N Y 0V ~2.5V Disabled N.A. N.A. N.A. Y Y N.A. N.A. Limit Switch NO pin Limit Switch NC pin Limit Switch COM pin Normally Open pin8 N.A. pin10 Y N ~2.5V 0V Normally Closed N.A. pin8 pin10 N Y 0V ~2.5V Disabled N.A. N.A. N.A. Y Y N.A. N.A. Reverse Limit Switch Mode Motor Drive Motor Drive *Voltage Switch open Switch closed (Switch Fwd. output Fwd. output Open) Motor Drive Motor Drive *Voltage Switch open Switch closed (Switch Rev. output Rev. output Open) *Voltage (Switch Closed) *Voltage (Switch Closed) *Measured voltage at the Talon SRX Limit Switch Input pin. Limit Switch Input Forward Input - pin4 on Talon SRX Limit Switch Input Reverse Input - pin8 on Talon SRX Limit Switch Ground - pin10 on Talon SRX Cross The Road Electronics Page 34 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 4.2. roboRIO Web-based Configuration: Limit Switch and Brake Limit switch features can be disabled or changed to “Normally Closed” in the roboRIO Webbased Configuration. Similarly, the neutral brake mode can be selected. Changing the settings will take effect once the “Save” button is pressed. The settings are saved in persistent memory. If the Brake or Limit Switch mode is changed in the roboRIO Web-based Configuration, the Talon SRX will momentarily disable then resume motor drive. All other settings can be changed without impacting the motor drive or enabled-state of the Talon SRX. Additionally, the brake mode can be modified by pressing the B/C CAL Button on the Talon SRX itself, just like with previous generation Talons. Cross The Road Electronics Page 35 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 4.3. Overriding Brake and Limit Switch with API The Brake and Limit Switch can be changed programmatically (during a match). A great example of this would be for dynamic braking. The programming API allows for overriding the active neutral brake mode. When this is done the Brake/Coast LED will reflect the overridden value (illuminated red for brake, off for coast) regardless of the startup brake mode specified in the roboRIO Web-based Configuration (i.e. what’s saved in persistent memory). Similarly, the enabled states of the limit switches (on/off) for the forward and reverse direction can be enabled/disabled by overriding them with programming API. The brake and limit switch overrides can be confirmed in the Self-Test results. If limit switches are overridden by the robot application, the forced states are displayed as “forced ON” or “forced OFF”. The currently active brake mode is also in the Self-Test results. (Self-test format has changed in 2018 since screenshot) Cross The Road Electronics Page 36 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 4.3.1. LabVIEW The VIs below can be used to configurate and override the limit switches. Select “Feedback Connector” when using the Limit Switch pins on the Talon’s Gadgeteer pinout. The neutral brake mode can also be overridden to Brake or Coast. If “EEPROMSetting” is selected, then the Startup Brake Mode is used (B/C Cal button) 4.3.2. C++ Limit Switches and neutral brake can be configured using the functions below. Cross The Road Electronics Page 37 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 4.3.3. Java Limit Switches and neutral brake can be configured using the functions below. Cross The Road Electronics Page 38 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 5. Getting Status and Signals The Talon SRX transmits most of its status signals periodically, i.e. in an unsolicited fashion. This improves bus efficiency by removing the need for “request” frames, and guarantees the signals necessary for the wide range of use cases Talon supports, are available. These signals are available in API regardless of what control mode the Talon SRX is in. Additionally, the signals can be polled in the roboRIO Web-based Configuration (see Section 2.4. Self-Test). Included in the list of signals are… - Quadrature Encoder Position, Velocity, Index Rise Count, Pin States (A, B, Index) - Analog-In Position, Analog-In Velocity, 10bit ADC Value, - Battery Voltage, Current, Temperature - Fault states, sticky fault states, - Limit switch pin states - Applied output (duty cycle) regardless of control mode. - Applied Control mode: Voltage % (duty-cycle), Position/Velocity closed-loop, or slave follower. - Brake State (coast vs brake) - Closed-Loop Error, the difference between closed-loop set point and actual position/velocity. - Sensor Position and Velocity, the signed output of the selected Feedback device (robot must select a Feedback device, or rely on default setting of Quadrature Encoder). Cross The Road Electronics Page 39 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 5.1. LabVIEW The GET VI can be used to retrieve the latest value for the signals Talon SRX periodically transmits. Choose the correct signal group from the drop down. 5.2. C++ Various get functions are available in C++. Here are a few examples…. double currentAmps = talon.GetOutputCurrent(); double outputV = talon.GetMotorOutputVoltage(); double busV = talon.GetBusVoltage(); double outputPerc = talon.GetMotorOutputPercent(); int quadPos = talon.GetSensorCollection().GetQuadraturePosition(); int quadVel = talon.GetSensorCollection().GetQuadratureVelocity(); int analogPos = talon.GetSensorCollection().GetAnalogIn(); int analogVel = talon.GetSensorCollection().GetAnalogInVel(); int selectedSensorPos = talon.GetSelectedSensorPosition(0); /* sensor selected for PID Loop 0 */ int selectedSensorVel = talon.GetSelectedSensorVelocity(0); /* sensor selected for PID Loop 0 */ int closedLoopErr = talon.GetClosedLoopError(0); /* sensor selected for PID Loop 0 */ double closedLoopAccum = talon.GetIntegralAccumulator(0); /* sensor selected for PID Loop 0 */ double derivErr = talon.GetErrorDerivative(0); /* sensor selected for PID Loop 0 */ 5.3. Java Various get functions are available in Java. Here are a few examples…. double double double double currentAmps = talon.getOutputCurrent(); outputV = talon.getMotorOutputVoltage(); busV = talon.getBusVoltage(); outputPerc = talon.getMotorOutputPercent(); int quadPos = talon.getSensorCollection().getQuadraturePosition(); int quadVel = talon.getSensorCollection().getQuadratureVelocity(); int analogPos = talon.getSensorCollection().getAnalogIn(); int analogVel = talon.getSensorCollection().getAnalogInVel(); int selectedSensorPos = talon.getSelectedSensorPosition(0); /* sensor selected for PID Loop 0 */ int selectedSensorVel = talon.getSelectedSensorVelocity(0); /* sensor selected for PID Loop 0 */ int closedLoopErr = talon.getClosedLoopError(0); /* sensor selected for PID Loop 0 */ double closedLoopAccum = talon.getIntegralAccumulator(0); /* sensor selected for PID Loop 0 */ double derivErr = talon.getErrorDerivative(0); /* sensor selected for PID Loop 0 */ Cross The Road Electronics Page 40 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 6. Setting the Ramp Rate The Talon SRX can be set to honor a ramp rate to prevent instantaneous changes in output. This ramp rate is in effect regardless of which mode is selected (PercentOutput, Follower, or closed-loop). Typically closed loop ramp is zero (off) or quite small as this can introduce oscillations. 6.1. LabVIEW Use the ramp VIs to specify the ramp rate in seconds (from neutral to full). 6.2. C++/ Java configOpenloopRamp and configClosedloopRamp can be used to ramp the motor output in the respective modes. Having two global configs allows users to avoid having to set and clear the ramp when switching between open-loop and closed-loop use. Since these settings are persistent, they can be typically set once on robot boot. Cross The Road Electronics Page 41 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 6.3. Web-based configuration limitations The individual ramp rate inside the closed-loop slot has been replaced with configOpenloopRamp and configClosedloopRamp. Instead use these routine as the webbased config entry will always read zero. Setting has been removed. Instead use the Open-loop and Closed-loop ramp config functions. Cross The Road Electronics Page 42 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 7. Feedback Device (Sensor Feedback) Although the analog and quadrature signals are available all the time, the Talon SRX requires the robot application to “pick” a “Feedback Device” for soft limit and closed-loop features. The selected “Feedback Device” defaults to Quadrature Encoder. Once a “Feedback Device” is selected, the “Sensor Position” and “Sensor Velocity” signals will update with the output of the selected feedback device. It may be multiplied by (-1) to ensure sensor is in phase with the motor. 7.1. LabVIEW Use CONFIG SENSOR to select which Feedback Sensor to use for soft limits and closed-loop features. The supported selections include: Quadrature, Analog, and Tachometer. 7.2. C++ SetFeedbackDevice() can be used to select Quadrature, Analog, or Tachometer (velocity). /* analog signal with no wrap-around (0-3.3V) */ talon.ConfigSelectedFeedbackSensor(FeedbackDevice::Analog, 0, 0); /* PIDLoop=0,timeoutMs=0 */ /* eFeedbackNotContinuous = 1, subValue/ordinal/timeoutMs = 0*/ talon.ConfigSetParameter(ParamEnum::eFeedbackNotContinuous, 1, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00); /* analog signal with wrap-arounds tracked (0-3.3V) */ talon.ConfigSelectedFeedbackSensor(FeedbackDevice::Analog, 0, 0); /* PIDLoop=0,timeoutMs=0 */ /* eFeedbackNotContinuous = 0, subValue/ordinal/timeoutMs = 0*/ talon.ConfigSetParameter(ParamEnum::eFeedbackNotContinuous, 0, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00); /* quadrature */ talon.ConfigSelectedFeedbackSensor(FeedbackDevice::QuadEncoder, 0, 0); /* PIDLoop=0,timeoutMs=0 */ /* CTRE Magnetic Encoder relative, same as Quadrature */ talon.ConfigSelectedFeedbackSensor(FeedbackDevice::CTRE_MagEncoder_Relative, 0, 0); /* PIDLoop=0,timeoutMs=0 */ /* CTRE Magnetic Encoder absolute (within one rotation), same as PulseWidthEncodedPosition */ talon.ConfigSelectedFeedbackSensor(FeedbackDevice::CTRE_MagEncoder_Absolute, 0, 0); /*PIDLoop=0,timeoutMs=0 */ /* PulseWidthEncodedPosition, LIDAR for example */ talon.ConfigSelectedFeedbackSensor(FeedbackDevice::PulseWidthEncodedPosition, 0, 0); /*PIDLoop=0,timeoutMs=0 */ /* Tachometer (for velocity closed loop) */ talon.ConfigSelectedFeedbackSensor(FeedbackDevice::Tachometer, 0, 0); /* PIDLoop=0, timeoutMs=0 */ SetSensorPhase() can be used to keep the sensor and motor in phase for proper limit switch and closed loop features. /* flip input until sensor is in phase */ talon.SetSensorPhase(true); Cross The Road Electronics Page 43 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 7.3. Java setFeedbackDevice()can be used to select Quadrature, Analog, or Tachometer (velocity). /* analog signal with no wrap-around (0-3.3V) */ talon.configSelectedFeedbackSensor(FeedbackDevice.Analog, 0, 0); /* PIDLoop=0, timeoutMs=0 */ /* eFeedbackNotContinuous = 1, subValue/ordinal/timeoutMs = 0*/ talon.configSetParameter(ParamEnum.eFeedbackNotContinuous, 1, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00); /* analog signal with wrap-arounds tracked (0-3.3V) */ talon.configSelectedFeedbackSensor(FeedbackDevice.Analog, 0, 0); /* PIDLoop=0, timeoutMs=0 */ /* eFeedbackNotContinuous = 0, subValue/ordinal/timeoutMs = 0*/ talon.configSetParameter(ParamEnum.eFeedbackNotContinuous, 0, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00); /* quadrature */ talon.configSelectedFeedbackSensor(FeedbackDevice.QuadEncoder, 0, 0); /* PIDLoop=0, timeoutMs=0 */ /* CTRE Magnetic Encoder relative, same as Quadrature */ talon.configSelectedFeedbackSensor(FeedbackDevice.CTRE_MagEncoder_Relative, 0, 0); /* PIDLoop=0, timeoutMs=0 */ /* CTRE Magnetic Encoder absolute (within one rotation), same as PulseWidthEncodedPosition */ talon.configSelectedFeedbackSensor(FeedbackDevice.CTRE_MagEncoder_Absolute, 0, 0); /* PIDLoop=0, timeoutMs=0 */ /* PulseWidthEncodedPosition, LIDAR for example */ talon.configSelectedFeedbackSensor(FeedbackDevice.PulseWidthEncodedPosition, 0, 0); /* PIDLoop=0, timeoutMs=0 */ /* Tachometer (for velocity closed loop) */ talon.configSelectedFeedbackSensor(FeedbackDevice.Tachometer, 0, 0); /* PIDLoop=0, timeoutMs=0 */ setSensorPhase() can be used to keep the sensor and motor in phase for proper limit switch and closed loop features. /* flip input until sensor is in phase */ talon.setSensorPhase(true); Cross The Road Electronics Page 44 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 7.4. Correcting sensor direction, best practices. For limit switches and closed-loop features to function correctly the sensor and motor must be “in-phase”. This means that the sensor position must move in a positive direction as the motor controller drives positive motor output. To test this, first drive the motor manually (using gamepad axis for example). Watch the sensor position either in the roboRIO Web-based Configuration Self-Test, or by calling GetSelectedSensorPosition() and printing it to console. If the “Sensor Position” moves in a negative direction while Talon SRX motor output is positive (blinking green), then use the setSensorPhase() routine/VI to multiply the sensor position by (1). Then retest to confirm “Sensor Position” moves in a positive direction with positive motor drive. Additionally, the sensor-out-of-phase sticky fault will assert if the motor output exceeds 25% and the sensor is traveling in the wrong direction. When using the Self-Test, be sure to track the selected feedback position and velocity, which is above the Quadrature Encoder signals. Only these signals will reflect changes to the sensor phase. If the sensor is out of phase, typically the self-test will reveal a sensor velocity and motor output with mismatched signs. Additionally, the sensor out of phase fault will appear. Note: sticky faults can be cleared via Light Device LED checkbox. Cross The Road Electronics Page 45 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 In the special case of using the “Tachometer” feedback device, the measured velocity is always signed to match the motor output. This ensures the sensor is in-phase despite the inability of a Tachometer signal to determine direction. 7.5. Supported Feedback Devices Many feedback back interfaces are supported. The complete list is below. 7.5.1. Quadrature The Talon directly supports Quadrature Encoders. If Quadrature is selected, the decoding is done in 4x mode. This means that each pulse will correspond to four counts. In this example pulse train, the Talon would decode 12 counts (each of the three pulses contributes four edges). 7.5.2. Analog (Potentiometer / Encoder) Analog feedback sensors, or sensors that provide a variable voltage to represent position, are also supported. Some devices are continuous despite the voltage signal wrapping around from 3.3V back to 0V. For these sensors, the Talon will detect and count these wrap arounds. Despite the base analog measurement holding 10 bits [0,1023], the sensor position will continue from 1023 -> 1024. 7.5.2.1. Potentiometer (Discontinuous) Sensor For other sensors (like potentiometers) that do not wrap the voltage signal and therefore must not track the overflow, the Talon can be configured to wrap the position (1023 -> 0). This can be done by setting the eFeedbackNotContinuous configurable parameter to ‘1’. 7.5.2.2. LabVIEW Example 7.5.2.2. C++ Example /* analog signal with no wrap-around (0-3.3V) */ talon.ConfigSelectedFeedbackSensor(FeedbackDevice::Analog, 0, 0); /* PIDLoop=0, timeoutMs=0 */ /* eFeedbackNotContinuous = 1, subValue/ordinal/timeoutMs = 0*/ talon.ConfigSetParameter(ParamEnum::eFeedbackNotContinuous, 1, 0x00,0x00, 0x00); 7.5.2.3. Java Example /* analog signal with no wrap-around (0-3.3V) */ talon.configSelectedFeedbackSensor(FeedbackDevice.Analog, 0,0); /* PIDLoop=0, timeoutMs=0 */ /* eFeedbackNotContinuous = 1, subValue/ordinal/timeoutMs = 0 */ talon.configSetParameter(ParamEnum.eFeedbackNotContinuous, 1, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00); Cross The Road Electronics Page 46 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 7.5.3. Pulse Width Decoder For sensors that encode position as a pulse width, this sensor type can be used to decode the position. The pulse width decoder is 1us accurate and the maximum time between edges is 120ms, which is wide enough to support many LIDAR distance sensors. 7.5.4. Cross The Road Electronics Magnetic Encoder (Absolute and Relative) The CTRE Magnetic Encoder is composed of two sensor interfaces packaged into one (pulse width and quadrature encoder). Therefore, the sensor provides two modes of use: absolute and relative. The advantage of absolute mode is having a solid reference to where a mechanism is without re-tare-ing or re-zero-ing the robot. The advantage of the relative mode is the faster update rate. However, both values can be read/written at the same time. So, a combined strategy of seeding the relative position based on the absolute position can be used to benefit from the higher sampling rate of the relative mode and still have an absolute sensor position. Parameter Absolute Mode Relative Mode Update rate (period) 4ms 100 us Max RPM 7,500 RPM 15,000 RPM Accuracy 12 bits per rotation 12 bits per rotation (4096 steps per rotation) (4096 steps per rotation) Software API Use Pulse Width API Use Quadrature API 7.5.4.1. Selecting the Magnetic Encoder Selecting the Magnetic Encoder for closed-loop / soft-limit features is no different than selecting other sensor feedback devices. Depending on language, there are two new feedback types: CTRE Magnetic Encoder (absolute) and CTRE Magnetic Encoder (relative). Alternatively, the user can select Quadrature or PulseWidthEncodedPosition to select between relative and absolute. Cross The Road Electronics Page 47 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 Additionally, the position and velocity can be retrieved without selecting the Magnetic Encoder as the selected feedback device. One method is to utilize the self-test in the roboRIO webbased configuration. Note the purple entries are always available regardless of robot-code status. To programmatically read the absolute and relative position and velocities, the robot API provides get routines for pulse width decoding and quadrature, which can be read any time without sensor selection. 7.5.4.2. CTR Magnetic Encoder (absolute) – C++ /* get the decoded pulse width encoder position, 4096 units per rotation */ int pulseWidthPos = talon.GetSensorCollection().GetPulseWidthPosition(); /* get the pulse width in us, rise-to-fall in microseconds */ int pulseWidthUs = talon.GetSensorCollection().GetPulseWidthRiseToFallUs(); /* get the period in us, rise-to-rise in microseconds */ int periodUs = talon.GetSensorCollection().GetPulseWidthRiseToRiseUs(); /* get measured velocity in units per 100ms, 4096 units is one rotation */ int pulseWidthVel = talon.GetSensorCollection().GetPulseWidthVelocity(); /* is sensor plugged in to Talon */ bool sensorPluggedIn = false; if (periodUs != 0) { sensorPluggedIn = true; } 7.5.4.3. CTR Magnetic Encoder (absolute) – Java /* get the decoded pulse width encoder position, 4096 units per rotation */ int pulseWidthPos = _talon.getSensorCollection().getPulseWidthPosition(); /* get the pulse width in us, rise-to-fall in microseconds */ int pulseWidthUs = _talon.getSensorCollection().getPulseWidthRiseToFallUs(); /* get the period in us, rise-to-rise in microseconds */ int periodUs = _talon.getSensorCollection().getPulseWidthRiseToRiseUs(); /* get measured velocity in units per 100ms, 4096 units is one rotation */ int pulseWidthVel = _talon.getSensorCollection().getPulseWidthVelocity(); /* is sensor plugged in to Talon */ boolean sensorPluggedIn = false; if (periodUs != 0) { sensorPluggedIn = true; } Cross The Road Electronics Page 48 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 7.6. Multiple Talon SRXs and single sensor There are many uses where a mechanism requires multiple Talon SRXs but a single sensor. For example, a single-side of a tank-drive or a shooter-wheel powered by two motors. The recommended strategy for these mechanisms is to… Connect the sensor to one of the Talons. This Talon will be referred to the “master” Talon. Set the supplemental Talon(s) to follower mode and follow the device ID of the “master” Talon. See Section 9.1 for details. Select PercentOutput Mode on the “master” Talon. Write a test robot application to drive the “master” Talon manually and confirm proper direction. Use SetInverted() to correct direction if need be. Note: A talon’s LEDs will not change when inverted, but the motor output voltage will. Consult Talon User’s Guide to avoid damaging Talons by incorrectly wiring inputs/outputs. Next, connect motor to first follower Talon and disconnect master Talon from master motor. Consult Talon User’s Guide to avoid damaging Talons by incorrectly wiring inputs/outputs. Test follower direction. If follower direction is incorrect, use SetInverted() on follower Talon to correct it. Repeat for each follower motor controller. For example, when drive a shooter wheel, the motors may be oriented to require each motor to drive in opposite directions. If this is the case signal the slave Talon to invert its output (Section 9.1.4). Do not use excessive motor output. Otherwise you may stall your motors if the follower and master Talon are driving against each other. Instrument the Sensor Position or Velocity using the roboRIO Web-based Configuration Page Self-Test, or print/plot the values. Ensure that sensor moves in a positive direction when master Talon is given positive forward motor output (green LEDs). Now that the motor(s) and sensor orientation has been confirmed, select the desired control mode of the master Talon. Any of the closed-loop/motion-profile control modes can be used. When using Velocity Closed-Loop, Current Closed-Loop, or MotionProfile Control Mode, be sure to calculate the F gain when all slave Talon/motors are connected and used. 7.7. Pulse Width - Checking Sensor Health When using the PulseWidthEncoded sensor, the health of the sensor can be determined by polling the measured period. The period will read zero 120ms after the last received valid pulse. Cross The Road Electronics Page 49 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 7.8. Velocity Measurement The Talon SRX measures the velocity of all supported sensor types as well as the current position. In the case of quadrature and analog, every 1ms, a velocity sample is measured and inserted into a rolling average. The velocity sample is measured as the change in position at the time-of-sample versus the position sampled 100ms-prior-to-time-of-sample. The rolling average is sized for 64 samples. Though these settings can be modified, the (100ms, 64 samples) parameters are default. 7.8.1. Changing Velocity Measurement Parameters. The two characteristics for the Talon Velocity Measurement are… Sample Period (Default 100ms) Rolling Average Window Size (Default 64 samples). These settings are also persistent across power cycles. Each can be modified through programming API, and through HERO LifeBoat (non-FRC). NOTE – When the sample period is reduced, the units of the native velocity measurement is still change-in-position-per-100ms. In other words, the measurement is up-scaled to normalize the units. Additionally, a velocity sample is always inserted every 1ms regardless of setting selection. NOTE – The Velocity Measurement Sample Period is selected from a fixed list of pre-supported sampling periods [1, 5, 10, 20, 25, 50, 100(default)] milliseconds. NOTE – The Velocity Measurement Rolling Average Window is selected from a fixed list of presupported sample counts: [1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64(default)]. If an alternative value is passed into the API, the firmware will truncate to the nearest supported value. 7.8.1.1. Changing Parameters – HERO C# _talon.ConfigVelocityMeasurementPeriod(CTRE.TalonSrx.VelocityMeasurementPeriod.Period_10Ms, 0); _talon.ConfigVelocityMeasurementWindow(20, 0); Cross The Road Electronics Page 50 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 7.8.1.2. Changing Parameters – Hero LifeBoat When using the HERO Development Board, the Sample Period and Rolling Average can be modified through the graphical interface. 7.8.1.3. Changing Parameters – FRC Java talon.ConfigVelocityMeasurementPeriod(VelocityMeasPeriod.Period_100Ms, 0); talon.ConfigVelocityMeasurementWindow(64, 0); 7.8.1.4. Changing Parameters – FRC C++ _talon.ConfigVelocityMeasurementPeriod(VelocityMeasPeriod::Period_100Ms, 0); _talon.ConfigVelocityMeasurementWindow(64, 0); 7.8.1.5. Changing Parameters – FRC LabVIEW Cross The Road Electronics Page 51 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 7.8.2. Recommended Procedure The general recommended procedure is to first set these two parameters to the minimal value of ‘1’ (Measure change in position per 1ms, and no rolling average). Then plot the measured velocity while manually driving the Talon SRX(s) with a joystick/gamepad. Sweep the motor output to cover the expected range that the sensor will be expected to cover. Unless the sensor velocity is considerably fast (hundreds of sensor units per sampling period) the measurement will be very coarse (visual stair-stepping as the motor output is increased). Increase the sampling period until the measured velocity is sufficiently granular. At this point the sensor velocity will have minimal stair-stepping (good) but will be quite noisy. Increase the rolling average window until the velocity plot is sufficiently smooth, but still responsive enough to meet the timing requirements of the mechanism. Cross The Road Electronics Page 52 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 7.8.3. Self-Test Velocity Settings The current Velocity Measurement Settings can be confirmed by performing the Self-Test in the roboRIO Web-based configuration page. In this screenshot the Sampling Period is set to 100ms and the Rolling Average Window is set to 1 sample. 7.8.3.1. Self-Test reads 0 for Period and Window. If the firmware is too old to allow configuration of the velocity measurement settings, then the self-test will report ‘0’ for both. In this configuration, the firmware is hardcoded to use 100ms and 64 samples. Cross The Road Electronics Page 53 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 7.9. Tachometer Measurement Talon SRX also supports decoding a Tachometer for sensing velocity. Typically, this is used with velocity control mode. The Talon SRX was tested using a CTRE Talon Tach http://www.ctr-electronics.com/talon-tach-tachometer-new-limit-switch.html Select Tachometer as the sensor type and use Self-test to review the measured values. The base unit of a Tachometer measured velocity is in units per 100ms, such that… 1024 units per 100ms = 1 rotations per 100ms. OR 1024 units per 100ms = 600RPM For the sensor decoder to function correctly, users can... - Ensure Talon is aware how many edges per rotation there are. - Optionally select a rolling average to smooth measurement (typically not necessary). 7.9.1. Tachometer Measurement – LabVIEW Use the general SET PARAM VI to adjust the Tachometer decoding parameters. Set PulseWidthPeriod_EdgesPerRot (430) to a value within [1,6], (default value is 1). This should match the number of edges marked on the wheel being measured. If filtering is required, set the filter window size (431) to a value within [1,8], (default is 1). This represents the number of cells in a rolling average. 7.9.2. Tachometer Measurement – Java Use the general SET PARAM VI to adjust the Tachometer decoding parameters. /* ePulseWidthPeriod_EdgesPerRot : [1,6] */ int edgesPerRotation = 2; /* ePulseWidthPeriod_FilterWindowSz : [1,8] */ int filterWindowSize = 1; talon.configSetParameter(430, edgesPerRotation, 0x00, 0x00, 0); talon.configSetParameter(431, filterWindowSize, 0x00, 0x00, 0); Set PulseWidthPeriod_EdgesPerRot (430) to a value within [1,6], (default value is 1). This should match the number of edges marked on the wheel being measured. Cross The Road Electronics Page 54 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 If filtering is required, set the filter window size (431) to a value within [1,8], (default is 1). This represents the number of cells in a rolling average. 7.9.2. Tachometer Measurement – C++ Use the general SET PARAM VI to adjust the Tachometer decoding parameters. /* ePulseWidthPeriod_EdgesPerRot : [1,6] */ int edgesPerRotation = 2; /* ePulseWidthPeriod_FilterWindowSz : [1,8] */ int filterWindowSize = 1; talon.ConfigSetParameter(430, edgesPerRotation, 0x00, 0x00, 0); talon.ConfigSetParameter(431, filterWindowSize, 0x00, 0x00, 0); Set PulseWidthPeriod_EdgesPerRot (430) to a value within [1,6], (default value is 1). This should match the number of edges marked on the wheel being measured. If filtering is required, set the filter window size (431) to a value within [1,8], (default is 1). This represents the number of cells in a rolling average. Cross The Road Electronics Page 55 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 8. Soft Limits Soft limits can be used to disable motor drive when the “Sensor Position” is outside of a specified range. Forward motor output will be disabled if the “Sensor Position” is greater than the Forward Soft Limit. Reverse motor output will be disabled if the “Sensor Position” is less than the Reverse Soft Limit. The respective Soft Limit Enable must be enabled for this feature to take effect. The settings can be set and confirmed in the roboRIO Web-based Configuration. Cross The Road Electronics Page 56 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 8.1. LabVIEW The soft limits can also be set up programmatically. In LabVIEW, Soft Limit enables and thresholds can be set using the following VIs. 8.2. C++ The limit threshold and enabled states can be individually specified using: /* +14 rotations forward when using CTRE Mag encoder */ talon.ConfigForwardSoftLimitThreshold(+14*4096, 10); /* -15 rotations reverse when using CTRE Mag encoder */ talon.ConfigReverseSoftLimitThreshold(-15*4096, 10); talon.ConfigForwardSoftLimitEnable(true, 10); talon.ConfigReverseSoftLimitEnable(true, 10); /* pass false to FORCE OFF the feature. Otherwise the enable flags above are honored */ talon.OverrideLimitSwitchesEnable(true); 8.3. Java The limit threshold and enabled states can be individually specified using: /* +14 rotations forward when using CTRE Mag encoder */ talon.configForwardSoftLimitThreshold(+14*4096, 10); /* -15 rotations reverse when using CTRE Mag encoder */ talon.configReverseSoftLimitThreshold(-15*4096, 10); talon.configForwardSoftLimitEnable(true, 10); talon.configReverseSoftLimitEnable(true, 10); /* pass false to FORCE OFF the feature. Otherwise the enable flags above are honored */ talon.overrideLimitSwitchesEnable(true); Cross The Road Electronics Page 57 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 9. Special Features 9.1. Follower Mode Any given Talon SRX on CAN bus can be instructed to “follow” the drive output of another Talon SRX. This is done by putting a Talon SRX into “follower” mode and specifying the device ID of the “Master Talon” to follow. The “Slave Talon” will then mirror the output of the “Master Talon”. The “Master Talon” can be in any mode: closed-loop, percentOutput, motion profile control mode, or even following yet another Talon SRX. 9.1.1. LabVIEW The follow VI can be used to set up a CTRE/VEX CAN motor controller to follow another CTRE/VEX CAN motor controller. 9.1.2. C++ Followers can be set up by… using the follow routine. passing the device ID of the Master motor controller into Set()if the follower product model is the same as the master. The device ID should be between 0 and 62 (inclusive). /* recommended method: use Follow routine */ victor.Follow(talon); /* alternative method : victor will follow another Victor 7 - assume same model */ victor.Set(ControlMode::Follower, 7); /* alternative method : talon will follow another Talon 7 - assume same model */ talon.Set(ControlMode::Follower, 7); 9.1.3. Java Followers can be set up by… using the follow routine. passing the device ID of the Master motor controller into Set()if the follower product model is the same as the master. The device ID should be between 0 and 62 (inclusive). /* recommended method: use follow routine */ victor.follow(talon); /* alternative method : victor will follow another Victor 7 - assume same model */ victor.set(ControlMode.Follower, 7); /* alternative method : talon will follow another Talon 7 - assume same model */ talon.set(ControlMode.Follower, 7); Cross The Road Electronics Page 58 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 9.1.4. Correcting Follower Direction If a follower motor controller must drive in the opposite direction use the motor controller invert to correct this. 9.1.4.1. Correcting Follower Direction – C++ talon.SetInverted(true); 9.1.4.2. Correcting Follower Direction – Java talon.setInverted(true); 9.1.4.3. Correcting Follower Direction – LabVIEW Cross The Road Electronics Page 59 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 9.2. Voltage Compensation When voltage compensation is enabled, the output duty cycle is calculated to meet the desired output voltage. This is done by sampling the battery voltage and scaling the output duty cycle to match the desired output voltage. If the desired output voltage exceeds battery voltage, then Talon will drive full available voltage. This feature affects all control modes, including… Position Closed-Loop Control Mode Velocity Closed-Loop Control Mode Current Closed-Loop Control Mode Motion Profile Control Mode Motion Magic Control Mode As an example, if the Position Closed-Loop Control Mode calculates an output of 512 units (50% motor output), then instead of applying 50% of max voltage, the Talon will apply 50% of the specified Nominal Battery Voltage. This is accomplished by scaling the motor output against the measured battery voltage. If the measured battery voltage is below the necessary voltage to reach the calculated output of the compensated closed-loop control mode, 100% motor output is applied. This is done every 1ms synchronous with the closed-loop controller. The setting is persistent across power cycles and has a default value of 0.0. Enabling this feature requires setting the saturation voltage and the feature enable. If either is 0/false, the feature is disabled. Additionally, the voltage filter (rolling average) may be modified to tune out oscillations caused by the voltage compensation. The Rolling average window defaults to 32 samples (each sampled every millisecond). Valid values for the rolling average window are {1,2,4,8,16, and 32} 9.2.1. LabVIEW Cross The Road Electronics Page 60 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 9.2.2. C++ /* "full" output will scale to 11 volts */ talon.ConfigVoltageCompSaturation(11.0, 10); talon.EnableVoltageCompensation(true); /* turn on the feature */ /* tweak the voltage bus measurement filter, * default is 32 cells in rolling average (1ms per sample) */ talon.ConfigVoltageMeasurementFilter(32, 10); 9.2.3. Java /* "full" output will scale to 11 volts */ talon.configVoltageCompSaturation(11.0, 10); talon.enableVoltageCompensation(true); /* turn on the feature */ /* tweak the voltage bus measurement filter, * default is 32 cells in rolling average (1ms per sample) */ talon.configVoltageMeasurementFilter(32, 10); 9.2.4. Self-Test The feature enable can be checked via the Self-Test. Cross The Road Electronics Page 61 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 9.3. Current Limits Talon SRX can limit the output current to a specified maximum threshold. This functionality is available in all control modes. This feature is not available on Victor SPX. Regardless of language or mode, there are two parameters that must be set – the numeric current threshold (in amps) and the boolean flag to enable or disable the feature. Additionally, a peak current and time threshold may be specified to allow excessive current before enforcing the continuous current limit. 9.3.1. Current Limit – LabVIEW The Talon SRX palette in LabVIEW contains a ConfigCurrentLimit VI for setting the current limit parameters. 9.3.2. Current Limit – C++ /* Peak Current and Duration must be exceeded before current limit is activated. When activated, current will be limited to Continuous Current. Set Peak Current params to 0 if desired behavior is to immediately current-limit. */ talon.ConfigPeakCurrentLimit(35, 10); /* 35 A */ talon.ConfigPeakCurrentDuration(200, 10); /* 200ms */ talon.ConfigContinuousCurrentLimit(30, 10); /* 30A */ talon.EnableCurrentLimit(true); /* turn it on */ 9.3.3. Current Limit – Java /* Peak Current and Duration must be exceeded before current limit is activated. When activated, current will be limited to Continuous Current. Set Peak Current params to 0 if desired behavior is to immediately current-limit. */ talon.configPeakCurrentLimit(35, 10); /* 35 A */ talon.configPeakCurrentDuration(200, 10); /* 200ms */ talon.configContinuousCurrentLimit(30, 10); /* 30A */ talon.enableCurrentLimit(true); /* turn it on */ Cross The Road Electronics Page 62 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 10. Control Modes (Closed-Loop) Talon SRX supports position closed-loop, velocity closed-loop, current closed-loop, Motion Profiling, and Motion Magic. The actual implementation can be seen in Section 18. How is the closed-loop implemented? All closed-loop modes update every 1ms (1000Hz). TIP: While tuning the closed-loop, use the roboRIO web-based configuration to quickly change the gains “on the fly”. Once the PID is stable, set the gain values in code so that Talons can be swapped/replaced easily. Below is an example of tweaking the gains in the roboRIO Web-based configuration. TIP: Example code of the parameters in Java once initial tweaking is done. Parameters can also be tweaked “on the fly” using the roboRIO Web-based configuration or reading values from a file. /* set closed loop gains in slot0 - see documentation */ _talon.selectProfileSlot(kSlotIdx, 0); _talon.config_kF(kSlotIdx, 0.2, kTimeoutMs); _talon.config_kP(kSlotIdx, 0.2, kTimeoutMs); _talon.config_kI(kSlotIdx, 0, kTimeoutMs); _talon.config_kD(kSlotIdx, 0, kTimeoutMs); _talon.config_IntegralZone(0, 100, Constants.kTimeoutMs); Cross The Road Electronics Page 63 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 10.1. Position Closed-Loop Control Mode The Talon’s Closed-Loop logic can be used to maintain a target position. Target and sampled position is passed into the equation in Section 18 in native units. TIP: A simple strategy for setting up a closed loop is to zero out all Closed-Loop Control Parameters and start with the Proportional Gain. For example, if you want your mechanism to drive 50% motor output when the error is 4096, then the calculated Proportional Gain would be (0.50 X 1023) / 4096 = ~0.125. To check our math, take an error (native units) of 4096 X 0.125 => 512 (50% motor output). Tune this until the sensed value is close to the target under typical load. Many prefer to simply double the P-gain until oscillations occur, then reduce accordingly. If the mechanism accelerates too abruptly, Derivative Gain can be used to smooth the motion. Typically start with 10x to 100x of your current Proportional Gain. If the mechanism never quite reaches the target and increasing Integral Gain is viable, start with 1/100th of the Proportional Gain. See Section 12.5 for HERO C# complete example of Position Closed-Loop. The functions used are comparable to the WPILIB C++/Java API. 10.2. Current Closed-Loop Control Mode The Talon’s Closed-Loop logic can be used to approach a target current-draw. Target and sampled current is passed into the equation in Section 18 in milliamperes. However, the robot API expresses the target current in amperes. Note: Current Control Mode is separate from Current Limit. See Section 9.3 for Current Limit. TIP: A simple strategy for setting up a current-draw closed loop is to zero out all ClosedLoop Control Parameters and start with the Feed-Forward Gain. Tune this until the currentdraw is close to the target under typical load. Then start increasing P gain so that the closedloop will make up for the remaining error. If necessary, reduce Feed-Forward gain and increase P Gain so that the closed-loop will react more strongly to the ClosedLoopError. See Section 12.3 for a walk-through in LabVIEW. Though the example is written in LabVIEW, the procedure is the similar for all supported languages. Cross The Road Electronics Page 64 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 10.3. Velocity Closed-Loop Control Mode The Talon’s Closed-Loop logic can be used to maintain a target velocity. Target and sampled velocity is passed into the equation in Section 18 in native units per 100ms. See Section 17.1 for information regarding native units. TIP: A simple strategy for setting up a closed loop is to zero out all Closed-Loop Control Parameters and start with the Feed-Forward Gain. Tune this until the sensed value is close to the target under typical load. Then start increasing P gain so that the closed-loop will make up for the remaining error. If necessary, reduce Feed-Forward gain and increase P Gain so that the closed-loop will react more strongly to the ClosedLoopError. TIP: Velocity Closed-Loop tuning is similar to Current Closed-Loop tuning in their use of feed-forward. Begin by measuring the sensor velocity while driving the Talon at a large motor output. A complete Java example is available in Section 12.4. 10.4. Motion Profile Control Mode A recent addition to the Talon SRX is the motion profile mode. With this, a savvy developer can stream motion profile trajectory points into the Talon’s internal buffer (even while executing the profile). This allows fine control of position and speed throughout the entire movement. Since this is an advanced feature addition, a separate document will be provided shortly to cover this. Cross The Road Electronics Page 65 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 10.5. Peak/Nominal Output Since firmware 2.0, The Talon SRX supports bounding the output of the Closed-Loop modes. These settings are in effect during… Position Closed-Loop Control Mode Velocity Closed-Loop Control Mode Current Closed-Loop Control Mode Motion Profile Control Mode Motion Magic Control Mode To clearly communicate what these parameters accomplish, the following terms are introduced. Peak Output- The “maximal” or “strongest” motor output allowed during closed-loop. These settings are useful to reduce the maximum velocity of the mechanism, and can make tuning the closed-loop simpler. The “Positive Peak Output” or “Forward Peak Output” refers to the “strongest” motor output when the Closed-Loop motor output is positive. If the Closed-Loop Output exceeds this setting, the motor output is capped. This value is typically positive or zero. The default value is +1023 as read in the webbased configuration Self-Test. The “Negative Peak Output” or “Reverse Peak Output” refers to the “strongest” motor output when the Closed-Loop motor output is negative. If the Closed-Loop Output exceeds this setting, the motor output is capped. This value is typically negative or zero. The default value is -1023 as read in the webbased configuration Self-Test. Nominal Output- The “minimal” or “weakest” motor output allowed during closed-loop if the “Closed-Loop Error” is nonzero and outside of the “Allowable Closed-Loop Error”. This is expressed using two signals: “Positive Nominal Output” and “Negative Nominal Output”, to uniquely describe a limit for each direction. If the Closed-Loop is calculating a motor-output that is too “weak”, the robot application can use these signals to promote the motor-output to a minimum limit. With this the robot application, can ensure the motor-output is large enough to drive the mechanism. Typically, this is accomplished with Integral gain, however this method may be a simpler alternative as there is no risk of Integral wind-up. Cross The Road Electronics Page 66 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 10.5.1. Peak/Nominal Closed-Loop Output – LabVIEW These signals can be set using and . Peak and nominal values range from -1.0 (full reverse) to +1.0 (full forward). 10.5.2. Peak/Nominal Closed-Loop Output – C++ The parameters are expressed in voltage where +12V represents full forward, and -12V represents full reverse. /* set the peak and nominal outputs, 1.0 means full */ _talon.ConfigNominalOutputForward(0, kTimeoutMs); _talon.ConfigNominalOutputReverse(0, kTimeoutMs); _talon.ConfigPeakOutputForward(1, kTimeoutMs); _talon.ConfigPeakOutputReverse(-1, kTimeoutMs); /* 0.001 represents 0.1% - default value is 0.04 or 4% */ _talon.ConfigNeutralDeadband(0.001, kTimeoutMs); 10.5.3. Peak/Nominal Closed-Loop Output – Java The parameters are expressed in voltage where +12V represents full forward, and -12V represents full reverse. /* set the peak and nominal outputs, 1.0 means full */ _talon.configNominalOutputForward(0, kTimeoutMs); _talon.configNominalOutputReverse(0, kTimeoutMs); _talon.configPeakOutputForward(1, kTimeoutMs); _talon.configPeakOutputReverse(-1, kTimeoutMs); /* 0.001 represents 0.1% - default value is 0.04 or 4% */ _talon.configNeutralDeadband(0.001, kTimeoutMs); 10.5.4. Peak/Nominal Closed-Loop Output – Web based Configuration Self-Test The parameters are also available for review in the Self-Test. Cross The Road Electronics Page 67 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 10.6. Allowable Closed-Loop Error Since firmware 2.0, The Talon SRX supports specifying an Allowable Closed-Loop Error whereby the motor output is neutral regardless of the calculated result. This signal affects… Position Closed-Loop Control Mode Velocity Closed-Loop Control Mode Current Closed-Loop Control Mode Motion Profile Control Mode Motion Magic Control Mode When the Closed-Loop Error is within the Allowable Closed-Loop Error P, I, D terms are zeroed. In other words, the math that uses P, I, and D gains is disabled. However, F term is still in effect. Integral Accumulator is cleared. Allowable Closed-Loop Error defaults to zero, and is persistently saved. 10.6.1. Allowable Closed-Loop Error – LabVIEW Use the VI to set this signal. The Allowable Closed-Loop error is in the same units as Closed-Loop Error. See Section 17.1 for more information. Each Closed-Loop Motor Profile slot has a unique Allowable Closed-Loop Error. Select ‘0’ or ‘1’ for slot 0 or slot 1 respectively. Cross The Road Electronics Page 68 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 10.6.2. Allowable Closed-Loop Error – C++ The Allowable Closed-Loop error is in the same units as Closed-Loop Error. See Section 17.1 for more information. Each Closed-Loop Motor Profile slot has a unique Allowable Closed-Loop Error. This function affects the currently selected slot/profile. /* Slot 0 => allowable error = 409 units (10% or a rotation if using CTRE MagEncoder)*/ talon.ConfigAllowableClosedloopError(0, 409, 10); In this example, 409 corresponds to 9.985% of a rotation or 35.95 degrees (assuming 4096 units per rotation, such as 1024CPR encoder or CTRE Mag Encoder). 10.6.3. Allowable Closed-Loop Error – Java The Allowable Closed-Loop error is in the same units as Closed-Loop Error. See Section 17.1 for more information. Each Closed-Loop Motor Profile slot has a unique Allowable Closed-Loop Error. This function affects the currently selected slot/profile. /* Slot 0 => allowable error = 409 units (10% or a rotation if using CTRE MagEncoder)*/ talon.configAllowableClosedloopError(0, 409, 10); In this example, 409 corresponds to 9.985% of a rotation or 35.95 degrees (assuming 4096 units per rotation, such as 1024CPR encoder or CTRE Mag Encoder). 10.6.4. Allowable Closed-Loop Error – Web based Configuration Self-Test The Allowable Closed-Loop Error for both slots can be read using the roboRIO Web based configuration Self-Test. The values are in the same units as Closed-Loop Error. In this example 40 corresponds to 0.9767% of a rotation or 3.52 degrees (assuming 4096 units per rotation, such as 1024CPR encoder or CTRE Mag Encoder). Cross The Road Electronics Page 69 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 10.7. Motion Magic Control Mode Motion Magic is a control mode for Talon SRX that provides the benefits of Motion Profiling without needing to generate motion profile trajectory points. When using Motion Magic, Talon SRX will move to a set target position using a Trapezoidal Motion Profile, while honoring the user specified acceleration and maximum velocity (cruise velocity). The benefits of this control mode over “simple” PID position closed-looping are… Control of the mechanism throughout the entire motion (as opposed to racing to the end target position). Control of the mechanism’s inertia to ensure smooth transitions between set points. Improved repeatability despite changes in battery voltage. Improved repeatability despite changes in motor load. After gain/settings are determined, the robot-application only needs to periodically set the target position. There is no general requirement to “wait for the profile to finish”, however the robot application can poll the sensor position and determine when the motion is finished if need be. A Trapezoidal Motion Profile generally ramps the output velocity at a specified acceleration until cruise velocity is reached. This cruise velocity is then maintained until the system needs to deaccelerate to reach the target position and stop motion. Talon determines when these critical points occur on-the-fly. NOTE: If the remaining sensor distance to travel is small, the velocity may not reach cruise velocity as this would overshoot the target position. This is often refered to as a “triangle profile”. Example Trapezoidal Motion Profile Cruise Velocity Velocity ramps at the Velocity ramps at the specified acceleration specified acceleration Motion Magic utilizes the same PIDF parameters as Motion Profiling. Cross The Road Electronics Page 70 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 The F parameter should be tuned using the process outlined in Section 12.6.3. Note that while the F parameter is not normally used for Position Closed-Loop control, Motion Magic requires this parameter to be properly tuned. See Section 12.6 for complete FRC JAVA walkthrough on tuning. Two additional parameters need to be set in the Talon SRX– Acceleration and Cruise Velocity. The Acceleration parameter controls acceleration and deacceleration rates during the beginning and end of the trapezoidal motion. The Cruise Velocity parameter controls the cruising velocity of the motion. This feature is further enhanced when used with Closed-Loop Voltage Compensation (Section 10.8). The upper bound for trajectory velocity (RPM) is 278045700/sensor-units-per-rotation. Cross The Road Electronics Page 71 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 11. Motor Control Profile Parameters The Talon persistently saves four unique Motor Control Profiles. Each Motor Control Profile contains several configurable values, including… P Gain: Kp constant to use when control mode is a closed-loop mode. I Gain: KI constant to use when control mode is a closed-loop mode. D Gain: KD constant to use when control mode is a closed-loop mode. F Gain: KF constant to use when control mode is a closed-loop mode. I Zone: Integral Zone. When nonzero, Integral Accumulator is automatically cleared when the absolute value of Closed-Loop Error exceeds it. (Closed-Loop) Ramp Rate: Ramp rate to apply when control mode is a closed-loop mode. Allowable Closed-Loop Error: When Closed-Loop Error’s magnitude is less than this signal, Integral Accum and motor output are auto-zeroed during closed-loop. Peak Closed-Loop Output: Caps the maximal or peak motor-output during closed-loop. Nominal Closed-Loop Output: Promotes the minimal or weakest motor-output during closed-loop. One unique feature of the Talon SRX is that gain values specified in a Motor Control Profile are not dedicated to just one type of closed-loop. When selecting a closed-loop mode (for example position or velocity) the robot application can select either of the two Motor Control Profiles to select which set of values to use. This can be useful for gain scheduling (changing gain values on-the-fly) or for persistently saving two sets of gains for two entirely different closed loop modes. The settings for the first two slots can be set and read in the web control page. Note that the Ramp Rate is no longer supported, as it has been replaced by OpenLoop and Closed-Loop Ramp API. Cross The Road Electronics Page 72 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 11.1. Persistent storage and Reset/Startup behavior The Talon SRX was designed to reduce the “setup” necessary for a Talon SRX to be functional, particularly with closed-loop features. This is accomplished with efficient CAN framing and persistent storage. All settings in the Motor Control Profile (MCP) are saved persistently in flash. Additionally, there are two complete Motor Control Profiles. Teams that use a constant set of values can simply set them using the roboRIO Web-based Configuration, and they will “stick” until they are changed again. Additionally, Motor Control Profile (MCP) Parameters can be changed though programming API. When they are changed, the values are ultimately copied to persistent memory using a wear leveled strategy that ensures Flash longevity, but also meets the requirements for teams. -Changing MCP values programmatically always take effect immediately (necessary for gain tuning). -If the MCP Parameters have remained unchanged for fifteen seconds, and an MCP Parameter value is then changed using programming API, they are copied to persistent memory immediately. -If the persistent memory has been updated within the last fifteen seconds due to a previous value change, and an MCP Parameter value is changed again, it will be applied to persistent memory once fifteen seconds has passed since the last persistent memory update. However the closed-loop will react immediately to the latest values sent over CAN bus. -If power loss occurs during the period when MCP Parameters are being saved to persistent storage, the previous values for all MCP Parameters prior to last value-change is loaded. This is possible because the Talon SRX keeps a small history of all value changes. These features fit well with the two common strategies that FRC teams utilize when programmatically changing closed-loop parameters... (1) Teams use programming API at startup to apply previous tested constants. (2) Teams use programming API to periodically set/change the constants because they are “gain scheduled” or action specific. For use case (1), the constants are eventually saved in Talon SRX persistent memory (worst case fifteen seconds after robot startup). Once this is done the Talon SRX will have the values in persistent storage, so even after Talons are power cycled, they will load the constants that were previous set. This frees the robot controller from needing to re-set the values during a power cycle, reset, brownout, etc…. On subsequent robot startups, when the robot controller sends the same values again, and Talon SRX will still react by updating its variables, and comparing against what’s saved in persistent storage to see if it needs to be updated again. In the event the robot code changes to use new constants, the Talon will again update the persistent storage shortly after getting the new values. Cross The Road Electronics Page 73 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 For use case (2) teams, there are two “best” solutions depending on what’s being accomplished. If a team needs to switch between two sets of gains, they can leverage both MCP slots by setting one set of constants in slot 0, and another unique set of constants in slot 1. Then during the match, teams can switch between the two with a single API. This means that as far as the Talon is concerned, the values in each slot never changes so the contents of the Talon’s persistent storage never changes. Instead the robot controller just changes which slot to use. So this use case regresses to use case (1), and a freshly booted Talon already has all the MCP parameters it needs to function. For use case(2) teams that requires more than two gain sets likely are changing gain values so frequently (as a function of autonomous, or state machine driven logic) that they would prefer not to rely on the previous set of gains sent to the Talon (despite it being available at startup). In which case they likely will periodically set the MCP parameters continuously (every number of loops or fixed period of time). Talon SRX always honors whatever parameters are requested over CAN bus, overriding what was loaded at startup or mirrored in persistent storage. And since the persistent storage is wear-leveled and mirrored at fifteen second intervals, this has no harmful impact on Flash longevity. So this use case is also supported well. Beyond the Motor Control Profile Parameters, closed-loop modes require selecting -which control mode (position or velocity) -which feedback sensor to use -if the feedback sensor should be reversed -if the closed-loop output should be reversed -what is the latest target or set point - ramp rate (if needed) -which Motor Control Profile Slot to use. Cross The Road Electronics Page 74 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 11.2. Inspecting Signals When testing/calibrating closed-loops it is helpful to plot/check… -Closed-Loop Error -Applied motor percent output -Profile Slot Select (which profile slot the closed-loop math is using). -Position and Velocity depending control mode. The Self-Test can provide these values for quick sanity checking. These values are also available with programming API for custom plotting, smart dashboard, LabVIEW front panels, etc... Cross The Road Electronics Page 75 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 12. Closed-Loop Code Excerpts/Walkthroughs 12.1. Setting Motor Control Profile Parameters 12.1.1. LabVIEW Setting the Motor Controller Profile parameters can be done with the SET PID VI. This allows filling all parameters for a given Parameter Slot. Specifying the set point is also done with the Set VI. Cross The Road Electronics Page 76 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 12.1.2. C++ Closed-loop parameters for a given profile slot can be modified with several different functions. /* first param is the slot, second param is generally zero (for primary PID loop) */ talon.SelectProfileSlot(0, 0); talon.Config_kF(0, 0.2, Constants.kTimeoutMs); talon.Config_kP(0, 0.2, Constants.kTimeoutMs); talon.Config_kI(0, 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); talon.Config_kD(0, 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); Setting the target position or velocity is also done with Set(). /* servo position, plus/minus one CTRE Mag Enc rotation via gamepad */ talon.Set(ControlMode.Position, joy.getY() * 4096); 12.1.3. Java Closed-loop parameters for a given profile slot can be modified using setPID(). This also sets the “Profile Slot Select” to the slot being modified. There are also individual Set functions for each signal. /* first param is the slot, second param is generally zero (for primary PID loop) */ talon.selectProfileSlot(0, 0); talon.config_kF(0, 0.2, Constants.kTimeoutMs); talon.config_kP(0, 0.2, Constants.kTimeoutMs); talon.config_kI(0, 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); talon.config_kD(0, 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); Setting the target position or velocity is also done with set(). /* servo position, plus/minus one CTRE Mag Enc rotation via gamepad */ talon.set(ControlMode.Position, joy.getY() * 4096); 12.2. Setting/Clearing Integral Accumulator (I Accum) Clearing the integral accumulator (“I Accum”) may be necessary to prevent integral windup. When using “IIZone” this is done automatically when the Closed-Loop Error is outside the “IIZone”. However, there may be other situations when manually clearing the integral accumulator is necessary. For example, if the mechanism that’s being closed-looped is “close enough” and its desirable to reduce occasional spurts of movement caused by a slowly incrementing integral term, then the robot logic can periodically clear the “I Accum” to prevent this. 12.2.1. LabVIEW In this example a case structure is leveraged to conditionally clear the Integral Accumulator when the case structure conditional evaluates true (this example uses a system button on the front panel). Cross The Road Electronics Page 77 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 12.2.3. Java double iaccum = 0; talon.setIntegralAccumulator(iaccum, 0, 10); 12.2.4. C++ double iaccum = 0; talon.SetIntegralAccumulator(iaccum, 0, 10); 12.2.3. Is Integral Accum cleared any other time? In addition to the “IIZone” feature and manual clear, there are certain cases where the integral accumulator is automatically cleared for more predicable motor response… -Whenever the control mode of a Talon is changed. -When a Talon is in the disabled state. -When the motor control profile slot has changed. -When the Closed Loop Error’s magnitude is smaller than the “Allowable Closed Loop Error”. Cross The Road Electronics Page 78 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 12.3. Current Closed-Loop Walkthrough – LabVIEW This example can be found on the CTR GitHub account. https://github.com/CrossTheRoadElec/Phoenix-Examples-LabVIEW 12.3.1. Current Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Collect Sensor Data – LabVIEW The first step is to confirm that the sensor is functional and in-phase with the motor. Additionally, data can be collected to be used later to determine a decent Feed-forward gain. Create a Talon and instrument its current draw and motor output. Also, provide a method to directly control the Talon to servo (Percent Output). In this example Talon is in Percent Output mode when button is off, and in current closed-loop when button is on. Enable the Robot and drive the motor to a reasonable output. Take note of what the motor output in percent. This will give us a basic relationship between current and motor-output. Shown to the left is the LabVIEW front panel, however these values can also be retrieved in the roboRIO web-based configuration (works for all FRC languages). Print statements can also be used for C++, JAVA, and HERO C#. This example was taken by using a Talon SRX and CIM to back drive a secondary CIM motor with leads connected together. At full output this setup will exceed the 40A breaker rating so less-the-full output was used. However, in a typical mechanism, full output may be used to acquire a more accurate measurement. 12.3.2. Current Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Calculating Feed Forward– LabVIEW From this we can calculate our initial Feed-Forward gain. Since measured current is always positive, we ignore the negative sign of applied output. Cross The Road Electronics Page 79 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 The Talon SRX firmware operates on the desired current in milliamps and outputs a motor output value [-1023 to +1023]. Knowing this, we calculate a Feedforward that will gives us 75% output when the Target current-draw is 30125 mA. ( 0.7556 X 1023) / 30125 mA => ~0.02566 As a math check, when the set point is 30125mA, the feedforward term will be 30125 X 0.02566 gives us 773 motor output units (~75%). Next we will set the F gain to 0.02566, while zeroing the PID gains. This can be done in the web-based configuration or programmatically using the robot API. On the left we have an example in LabVIEW, setting the closed-loop parameters in Begin.vi. The values are entered below in the front panel, though they could also be constants if need be. Additionally, the other languages have comparable APIs for gainsetting, or the gains can be set using the roboRIO web-based configuration. Web-based configuration can also be used to double check that the settings are what you expect. Cross The Road Electronics Page 80 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 Now rerun the test setup, but now we will press and hold our button to conditionally enable Current-closed loop mode. Not surprisingly the desired and measured current draw are nearly identical. Of course, there is no guarantee this will be the case at all request current draws under differing battery conditions. Remember this is just Feed-forward, we’re not close-looping yet! For example, as we deviate away from our tuned point, we see error between our desired and measured current. Next we will tune P gain so that the closed-loop responds to error. Cross The Road Electronics Page 81 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 12.3.3. Current Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Dialing Proportional Gain – LabVIEW In this example the Closed-Loop Err was ~7000 (mA). Perhaps we want to start with adding another 10% motor output to help approach our target current. 10% output X 1023 = 102 output units Since we want 102 output units when the error is 7700, calculate P gain by dividing the two… 102.3 / 7700 = 0.01329 To check our math, let’s take our P-gain of 0.01329 and multiply by Closed Loop Err (7700mA) 0.01329 X 7700 = 102 (10% of 1023 full output). Now we can expect approximately 10% more motor output when our error is ~7 amps. Here we attempt to reproduce the same target point. We see our motor output has increased because of the stronger P-gain and our current draw is closer to our target. Keep increasing the P-gain until the desired response is achieved. To save time, many will double the P-gain until oscillation is observed (overshooting the target and then returning to target. This can also be observed by plotting, or watching the color change on the Talon SRX LEDs). After further increasing P-gain, we see our desired and measured current-draw to follow closely. Cross The Road Electronics Page 82 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 We can also observe how the closed-loop responds to a change in load. Disconnecting the back driven CIM motor’s connected leads and connecting them to a 0.2 ohm power resistor reveals how the Closed-Loop increases its motor output to target the desired 20 amps. Closed Loop driving 77.7% when backdriven CIM has power resistor in series with leads. Closed Loop driving 59.7% when backdriven CIM has leads connected. With additional tweaking and leveraging the remaining gains (I and D), the closed-loop can be further improved, though many will find that a simple FP loop will be sufficient for many applications. Cross The Road Electronics Page 83 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 12.4. Velocity Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Java This example is on the CTR GitHub account. https://github.com/CrossTheRoadElec/Phoenix-Examples-Languages 12.4.1. Velocity Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Collect Sensor Data – Java The first step is to drive the Talon SRX manually to check that the selected sensor is functioning and in phase with the motor. The following example below will accomplish this. Deploy and drive the Talon forward by pulling the gamepad’s y-axis. public class Robot extends IterativeRobot { TalonSRX _talon = new TalonSRX(3); Joystick _joy = new Joystick(0); StringBuilder _sb = new StringBuilder(); int _loops = 0; public void robotInit() { /* first choose the sensor */ _talon.configSelectedFeedbackSensor(FeedbackDevice.CTRE_MagEncoder_Relative, 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.setSensorPhase(true); /* set the peak, nominal outputs, and deadband */ _talon.configNominalOutputForward(0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.configNominalOutputReverse(0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.configPeakOutputForward(1, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.configPeakOutputReverse(-1, Constants.kTimeoutMs); /* set closed loop gains in slot0 */ _talon.config_kF(Constants.kPIDLoopIdx, _talon.config_kP(Constants.kPIDLoopIdx, _talon.config_kI(Constants.kPIDLoopIdx, _talon.config_kD(Constants.kPIDLoopIdx, 0.34, Constants.kTimeoutMs); 0.2, Constants.kTimeoutMs); 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); } /** This function is called periodically during operator control */ public void teleopPeriodic() { /* get gamepad axis */ double leftYstick = _joy.getY(); double motorOutput = _talon.getMotorOutputPercent(); /* prepare line to print */ _sb.append("\tout:"); _sb.append(motorOutput); _sb.append("\tspd:"); _sb.append(_talon.getSelectedSensorVelocity(Constants.kPIDLoopIdx)); if (_joy.getRawButton(1)) { /* Speed mode */ /* * 4096 Units/Rev * 500 RPM / 600 100ms/min in either direction: * velocity setpoint is in units/100ms */ double targetVelocity_UnitsPer100ms = leftYstick * 4096 * 500.0 / 600; /* 1500 RPM in either direction */ _talon.set(ControlMode.Velocity, targetVelocity_UnitsPer100ms); /* append more signals to print when in speed mode. */ _sb.append("\terr:"); _sb.append(_talon.getClosedLoopError(Constants.kPIDLoopIdx)); _sb.append("\ttrg:"); _sb.append(targetVelocity_UnitsPer100ms); } else { /* Percent output mode */ _talon.set(ControlMode.PercentOutput, leftYstick); } if (++_loops >= 10) { _loops = 0; System.out.println(_sb.toString()); } _sb.setLength(0); } } Cross The Road Electronics Page 84 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 While driving the Talon in the positive direction, make sure the sensor speed is also positive. Additionally, note the approximate sensor speed while the Talon is driven. getSelectedSensorVelocity () will return the speed in position units per 100ms. The same values can be read in the roboRIO web-based configuration under Self-Tests. 12.4.2. Velocity Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Calculating Feed Forward– Java Now that we’ve confirmed that the position/speed moves in the positive direction with forward (green LEDs on Talon), we can calculate our Feed-forward gain. Our measurement of 9326 native units per 100ms is used for this. This was captured in the Self-Test. Now let’s calculate a Feed-forward gain so that 100% motor output is calculated when the requested speed is 9328 native units per 100ms. F-gain = (100% X 1023) / 9326 F-gain = 0.1097 Let’s check our math, if the target speed is 9326 native units per 100ms, Closed-loop output will be (0.1097 X 9326) => 1023 (full forward). Next we will set the calculated gain. This can also be done in the roboRIO web-based configuration or programmatically. After applying the new gain, rerun the test but hold down button1 to put Talon into Speed Control Mode. Now review the target and measured speed to see how close we are. Cross The Road Electronics Page 85 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 A few DS console samples are shown below, which contain the print statements. Looking at “spd” and “trg” we see that we’re within ~600 units per 100ms for most of the captures. Since the sensor is 4096 units per rotation, ~600 units per 100ms scales to ~87 RPM for most of the speedsweep. Additionally, since we have no feedback, you will find changes in load will impact the error considerably. Remember “err” is in native units per 100ms. So an error of 900 units per 100ms equals an error of 131RPM since each rotation is 4096 units. Cross The Road Electronics Page 86 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 12.4.3. Velocity Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Dialing Proportional Gain – Java Next we will add in P-gain so that the closed-loop can react to error. Suppose given our worst error so far (900 native units per 100ms), we want to respond with another 10% of motor output. Then our starting p-gain would be…. (10% X 1023) / (900) = 0.113333 Now let’s check our math, if the Talon SRX sees an error of 900 the P-term will be 900 X 0.113333 = 102 (which is about 10% of 1023) P-gain = 0.113333 Apply the P -gain programmatically using your preferred method. Now retest to see how well the closed-loop responds to varying loads. Double the P -gain until the system oscillates (too much) or until the system responds adequately. /* set closed loop gains in slot0 */ _talon.config_kF(Constants.kPIDLoopIdx, _talon.config_kP(Constants.kPIDLoopIdx, _talon.config_kI(Constants.kPIDLoopIdx, _talon.config_kD(Constants.kPIDLoopIdx, 0.1097, Constants.kTimeoutMs); 0.113333, Constants.kTimeoutMs); 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); If the mechanism is moving to swiftly, you can add D-gain to smooth the motion. Start with 10x the p-gain. If the mechanism is not quite reaching the final target position (and P -gain cannot be increased further without hurting overall performance) begin adding I-gain. Start with 1/100th of the P-gain. Some mechanisms may require that the closed-loop can never spin in reverse of the desired direction (due to closed-loop wanting to slow down). This behavior can be achieved by reducing the peak output to zero. /* set the peak, nominal outputs */ _talon.configNominalOutputForward(0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.configNominalOutputReverse(0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.configPeakOutputForward(+1, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.configPeakOutputReverse(0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); /* only positive */ /* set closed loop gains in slot0 */ _talon.config_kF(Constants.kPIDLoopIdx, _talon.config_kP(Constants.kPIDLoopIdx, _talon.config_kI(Constants.kPIDLoopIdx, _talon.config_kD(Constants.kPIDLoopIdx, Cross The Road Electronics 0.1097, Constants.kTimeoutMs); 0.22, Constants.kTimeoutMs); 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); Page 87 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 12.5. Velocity Closed-Loop Example – LabVIEW This example can be found on the CTR GitHub account. https://github.com/CrossTheRoadElec/Phoenix-Examples-LabVIEW Look at the teleop VI to confirm how the Feed Forward gain is calculated. There will be a text label similar to the following… The calibration procedure is identical to the Java Velocity Walkthrough. Cross The Road Electronics Page 88 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 12.6. Motion Magic Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Java This latest example should be downloaded from the CTR GitHub account. https://github.com/CrossTheRoadElec/Phoenix-Examples-Languages The example will appear similar to the snippet below… public class Robot extends IterativeRobot { TalonSRX _talon = new TalonSRX(3); Joystick _joy = new Joystick(0); StringBuilder _sb = new StringBuilder(); public void robotInit() { /* first choose the sensor */ _talon.configSelectedFeedbackSensor(FeedbackDevice.CTRE_MagEncoder_Relative, Constants.kPIDLoopIdx, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.setSensorPhase(true); _talon.setInverted(false); /* Set relevant frame periods to be at least as fast as periodic rate*/ _talon.setStatusFramePeriod(StatusFrameEnhanced.Status_13_Base_PIDF0, 10, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.setStatusFramePeriod(StatusFrameEnhanced.Status_10_MotionMagic, 10, Constants.kTimeoutMs); /* set the peak and nominal outputs */ _talon.configNominalOutputForward(0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.configNominalOutputReverse(0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.configPeakOutputForward(1, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.configPeakOutputReverse(-1, Constants.kTimeoutMs); /* set closed loop gains in slot0 - see documentation */ _talon.selectProfileSlot(Constants.kSlotIdx, Constants.kPIDLoopIdx); _talon.config_kF(0, 0.2, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.config_kP(0, 0.2, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.config_kI(0, 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.config_kD(0, 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); /* set acceleration and vcruise velocity - see documentation */ _talon.configMotionCruiseVelocity(15000, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.configMotionAcceleration(6000, Constants.kTimeoutMs); /* zero the sensor */ _talon.setSelectedSensorPosition(0, Constants.kPIDLoopIdx, Constants.kTimeoutMs); } /** * This function is called periodically during operator control */ public void teleopPeriodic() { /* get gamepad axis - forward stick is positive */ double leftYstick = -1.0 * _joy.getY(); /* calculate the percent motor output */ double motorOutput = _talon.getMotorOutputPercent(); /* prepare line to print */ _sb.append("\tOut%:"); _sb.append(motorOutput); _sb.append("\tVel:"); _sb.append(_talon.getSelectedSensorVelocity(Constants.kPIDLoopIdx)); if (_joy.getRawButton(1)) { /* Motion Magic */ double targetPos = leftYstick * 4096 * 10.0; /* 4096 ticks/rev * 10 Rotations in either direction*/ _talon.set(ControlMode.MotionMagic, targetPos); /* append more signals to print when in speed mode. */ _sb.append("\terr:"); _sb.append(_talon.getClosedLoopError(Constants.kPIDLoopIdx)); _sb.append("\ttrg:"); _sb.append(targetPos); } else { /* Percent output mode */ _talon.set(ControlMode.PercentOutput, leftYstick); } /* instrumentation */ Instrum.Process(_talon, _sb); try { TimeUnit.MILLISECONDS.sleep(10); } catch(Exception e) {} } } Cross The Road Electronics Page 89 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 12.6.1. Motion Magic Closed-Loop Walkthrough – General Requirements Be sure to check that the firmware is up to date. See CRF release notes for when motion magic was added. Firmware should in the format 3.X. Additionally, a reliable signal plotter is helpful for tuning parameters. The signals of interest are the… Sensor Position Sensor Velocity Active Trajectory Position Active Trajectory Velocity Applied Motor Output ClosedLoopErr Cross The Road Electronics Page 90 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 12.6.2. Motion Magic Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Collect Sensor Data – Java The first step is to drive the Talon SRX manually to check that the selected sensor is functioning and in phase with the motor. Deploy the GitHub example (or similar drive code) and drive the Talon by pulling the gamepad’s y-axis. Checking the sensor means… Confirming the sensor direction matches Talon motor output. Confirm position and speed measurement is accurate throughout entire position/speed range. Confirming the velocity is approximately correct given the mechanical setup. Noting the measured speed at a given motor output for calculating f-gain Noting the measured max speed for initial selection of velocity cruise and acceleration. While throttling the Talon in the positive direction, make sure the sensor speed is also positive. Talon should be illuminating green when doing this. If this is not the cause, change the parameter in setSensorPhase() and retest. Additionally, note the approximate sensor velocity while the Talon is driven. The displayed value is in units per 100ms. The same values can be read in the roboRIO web-based configuration under SelfTests. It’s important to note the speed for calculating the f-gain and for picking cruise velocity and acceleration. Example screenshot while driving shown here. Capture several to sanity check sensor. The self-test capture used for testing showed 4123 native units per 100ms, so this is used in the next section. This is comparable to the 4151 show in the left screenshot. Cross The Road Electronics Page 91 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 12.6.2.1. Is velocity magnitude correct? In this example, we measure 4123 units per 100ms (captured from previous section). This scales to ~604 RPM at full motor output (averaged of peak in both directions), assuming 4096 units per rotation (CTRE Mag encoder resolution). This setup involves 1 X CIM Motor motor (free speed 5330 RPM). The selected gear ratio is ~9:1. The CTRE magnetic encoder is on the geared output. So, a measurement of ~604 RPM is reasonable since it is close to 1/9th of 5330 RPM. 12.6.2.2. Is direction correct? Looking at the screenshots above, positive motor output yielded a positive speed. 12.6.2.3. Sweep motor output and plots signals While sweeping position and velocity, look for any discontinuities or unexplained behavior. In the capture below, the sensor velocity and position appear to follow with no discontinuities or plateaus. 12.6.2.4. Measurements For the calculations done in the next section, the measurement 4123 units per 100ms at full motor output is observed. Cross The Road Electronics Page 92 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 12.6.3. Motion Magic Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Calculate F-Gain – Java The Motion-Magic Closed-Loop mode operates by closed-loop servoing to a calculated position with a fed-forward calculated velocity. The calculations are based on the set-point, cruise velocity, acceleration parameter, and time. This requires knowing the sensor units per rotation. For this example, the CTRE Magnetic Encoder (quadrature) was used, which has 4096 native units per rotation. That is how we can deduce that the 4123 native units per 100ms measurement scales to ~604 RPM. Velocity is measured in change in native units per TvelMeas= 100ms. Now let’s calculate a Feed-forward gain so that 100% motor output is calculated when the requested speed is 4123 native units per 100ms. F-gain = (100% X 1023) / 4123 F-gain = 0.2481 Let’s check our math, if the target speed is 4123 native units per 100ms, Closed-loop output will be (0.2481 X 4123 ) => 1023 (full forward). Next we will set the calculated gain. This can also be done in the roboRIO web-based configuration or programmatically. /* set closed loop gains in slot0 - see documentation */ _talon.selectProfileSlot(Constants.kSlotIdx, Constants.kPIDLoopIdx); _talon.config_kF(0, 0.2481, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.config_kP(0, 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.config_kI(0, 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.config_kD(0, 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); /* set acceleration and vcruise velocity - see documentation */ _talon.configMotionCruiseVelocity(0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.configMotionAcceleration(0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); Cross The Road Electronics Page 93 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 12.6.4. Motion Magic Closed-Loop Walkthrough – Initial CruiseVelocity/Acceleration – Java Since our peak measured velocity was 4123 units per 100ms, the initial cruise velocity should be set to a smaller value to ensure the speed can be reached. In this example, we will arbitrarily take 75% of the top speed. Depending on the mechanism type, how safe the mechanism is, and what is trying to be accomplished, a lower or higher cruise velocity could be specified. Also remember that this setting can be changed easily and at any time. 75% X 4123 units per 100ms = ~3092 units per 100ms For the initial acceleration value, we will arbitrarily choose a value so that it takes an entire second to reach our cruise velocity. This will ensure the acceleration is slow enough to be observable. If this is too fast/slow, adjust accordingly. Since the acceleration is in terms of change in velocity per second, an acceleration of 3092 units per 100ms per sec will achieve our 1 second accel time. /* set closed loop gains in slot0 - see documentation */ _talon.selectProfileSlot(Constants.kSlotIdx, Constants.kPIDLoopIdx); _talon.config_kF(0, 0.2481, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.config_kP(0, 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.config_kI(0, 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.config_kD(0, 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); /* set acceleration and vcruise velocity - see documentation */ _talon.configMotionCruiseVelocity(3092, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.configMotionAcceleration(3092, Constants.kTimeoutMs); With the F gain and initial cruise velocity/acceleration configured, potentially you may start the servo by holding down button 1 and manipulating the gamepad stick. Before doing this be aware of the following… The servo range is programmed for ±10 rotations (see code snippet below). if (_joy.getRawButton(1)) { /* Motion Magic */ double targetPos = leftYstick * 4096 * 10.0; /* 4096 ticks/rev * 10 Rotations in either direction */ _talon.set(ControlMode.MotionMagic, targetPos); If that is beyond the mechanism’s range, reduce this and/or setup soft-limits/limit-switches so that there is no risk in reaching the mechanism’s hard limits (potentially damaging mechanism). Consider that the current sensor position may be far from ‘0’ because of manual-driving the motor when collecting sensor values in the previous sections. If needed, reset the sensor by calling setSelectedSensorPosition(). Since PID gains are zero, the movement may coast past the target position, particularly if the Talon’s neutral mode is in coast. But the motor output will reach neutral near the final target position passed into set(). Cross The Road Electronics Page 94 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 In this example the mechanism is the left-side of a robot’s drivetrain. The robot is elevated such that the wheels spin free. In the capture below we see the sensor position/velocity (blue) and the Active Trajectory position/velocity (brown/orange). At the end of the movement the closedloop error (which is in raw units) is sitting at ~1400.units. Given the resolution of the sensor this is approximately 0.34 rotations (4096 units per rotation). Another note is that when the movement is finished, you can freely back-drive the mechanism without motor-response (because PID gains are zero). Cross The Road Electronics Page 95 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 12.6.5. Motion Magic Closed-Loop Walkthrough – P-Gain – Java Next we will add in P-gain so that the closed-loop can react to error. In the previous section, after running the mechanism with just F-gain, the servo appears to settle with an error or ~1400. Given an error of (~1400.), suppose we want to respond with another 10% of motor output. Then our starting p-gain would be…. (10% X 1023) / (1400) = 0.0731 Now let’s check our math, if the Talon SRX sees an error of 1400 the P-term will be 1400 X 0.0731= 102 (which is about 10% of 1023) P-gain = 0.0731 Apply the P -gain programmatically using your preferred method. Now retest to see how well the closed-loop responds to varying loads. /* set closed loop gains in slot0 - see documentation */ _talon.selectProfileSlot(Constants.kSlotIdx, Constants.kPIDLoopIdx); _talon.config_kF(0, 0.2481, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.config_kP(0, 0.0731, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.config_kI(0, 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.config_kD(0, 0, Constants.kTimeoutMs); /* set acceleration and vcruise velocity - see documentation */ _talon.configMotionCruiseVelocity(3092, Constants.kTimeoutMs); _talon.configMotionAcceleration(3092, Constants.kTimeoutMs); Cross The Road Electronics Page 96 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 Retest the maneuver by holding button 1 and sweeping the gamepad stick. At the end of this capture, the wheels were hand-spun to demonstrate how aggressive the position servo responds. Because the wheel still backdrives considerably before motor holds position, the P-gain still needs to be increased. Cross The Road Electronics Page 97 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 Double the P-gain until the system oscillates (by a small amount) or until the system responds adequately. After a few rounds the P gain is at 0.6. Scope captures below show the sensor position and target position follows visually, but backdriving the motor still shows a minimal motor response. After several rounds, we’ve landed on a P gain value of 3. The mechanism overshoots a bit at the end of the maneuver. Additionally, backdriving the wheel is very difficult as the motorresponse is immediate (good). Cross The Road Electronics Page 98 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 Once settles, the motor is back-driven to assess how firm the motor holds position. The wheel is held by the motor firmly. Cross The Road Electronics Page 99 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 12.6.6. Motion Magic Closed-Loop Walkthrough – D-Gain – Java To resolve the overshoot at the end of the maneuver, D-gain is added. D-gain can start typically at 10 X P-gain. With this change the visual overshoot of the wheel is gone. The plots also reveal reduced overshoot at the end of the maneuver. Cross The Road Electronics Page 100 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 12.6.7. Motion Magic Closed-Loop Walkthrough – I-Gain – Java Typically, the final step is to confirm the sensor settles very close to the target position. If the final closed-loop error is not quite close enough to zero, consider adding I-gain and I-zone to ensure the Closed-Loop Error ultimately lands at zero (or close enough). In testing the closed-loop error settles around 20 units, so we’ll set the Izone to 50 units (large enough to cover the typical error), and start the Igain at something small (0.001). Keep doubling I-gain until the error reliably settles to zero. With some tweaking, we find an I-gain that ensures maneuver settles with an error of 0. At this point the acceleration and cruise-velocity can be modified to hasten/dampen the maneuver as the application requires. Cross The Road Electronics Page 101 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 13. Setting Sensor Position Depending on the sensor selected, the user can modify the “Sensor Position”. This is particularly useful when using a Quadrature Encoder (or any relative sensor) which needs to be “zeroed” or “home-ed” when the robot is in a known position. 13.1. Setting Sensor Position – LabVIEW To modify the “Sensor Position”, user will likely have to leverage the SET SENSOR POS VI. In this example “0” is selected to re-zero the sensor. 13.2. Setting Sensor Position – C++ SetSelectedPosition() can be used to change the current sensor position, if a relative sensor is used. int sensorPos = 0; // sensor units talon.SetSelectedSensorPosition(sensorPos, 0, 10); 13.3. Setting Sensor Position – Java setSelectedPosition() can be used to change the current sensor position, if a relative sensor is used. int sensorPos = 0; // sensor units talon.setSelectedSensorPosition(sensorPos, 0, 10); 13.4. Auto Clear Position using Index Pin In addition to manually changing the sensor position, the Talon SRX supports automatically resetting the Selected Sensor Position to zero whenever a digital edge is detected on the Quadrature Index Pin. This feature can be enabled regardless of which sensor is selected. This allows a means of resetting the position using a digital sensor, switch, or any external event that can drive a 3.3V digital signal. Since the Quadrature Index Pin has an internal pullup, the signal source can be an open-drain signal that provides ground when asserted, and high-impedance when not asserted (or vice versa). This feature is useful for minimizing the latency of resetting the Sensor Position after the external event since the robot controller is not involved. The maximum delay is <1ms. Additionally, this feature functions even if the Talon is disabled. Cross The Road Electronics Page 102 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 The feature can use the Quadrature Index Pin, (and/or Forward Limit/Reverse Limit), which is convenient if the selected sensor is a Quadrature encoder and the application requires syncing the position to the sensor’s index signal. When using Index Pin, a rising edge will clear the position register. When using Forward/Reverse Limit Pin, position register is cleared when signal is “closed”. 13.4.1. Setting Sensor Position – LabVIEW 13.4.2. Setting Sensor Position – Java double value = 1; // 1-on, 0-off talon.configSetParameter(ParamEnum.eClearPositionOnQuadIdx, value, 0x00, 0x00, 10); talon.configSetParameter(ParamEnum.eClearPositionOnLimitF, value, 0x00, 0x00, 10); talon.configSetParameter(ParamEnum.eClearPositionOnLimitR, value, 0x00, 0x00, 10); 13.4.3. Setting Sensor Position – C++ double value = 1; // 1-on, 0-off talon.ConfigSetParameter(ParamEnum::eClearPositionOnQuadIdx, value, 0x00, 0x00, 10); talon.ConfigSetParameter(ParamEnum::eClearPositionOnLimitF, value, 0x00, 0x00, 10); talon.ConfigSetParameter(ParamEnum::eClearPositionOnLimitR, value, 0x00, 0x00, 10); Cross The Road Electronics Page 103 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 14. Fault Flags The GET STATUS VI can be used to retrieve sticky flags, and clear them. 14.1. Fault Flags - LabVIEW Clearing sticky faults can be done in the roborio web-based configuration page, or this VI. Cross The Road Electronics Page 104 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 14.2. Fault Flags - C++ Create an empty Faults object, and pass into the GetFaults routine to update. Now inspect the member variables to poll fault behavior. Sticky faults operate similarly. Clearing the faults can be done via the clear routine. talon.ClearStickyFaults(0); Cross The Road Electronics Page 105 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 14.3. Fault Flags - Java Create an empty Faults object, and pass into the GetFaults routine to update. Now inspect the member variables to poll fault behavior. Sticky faults operate similarly. Clearing the faults can be done via the clear routine. talon.clearStickyFaults(0); 14.4. Fault Flags – Clearing The above examples include routines to programmatically clear sticky faults. They can also be cleared via the web-based config as documented in section 2.2.1. Sticky Faults do not impact any motor controller behavior. They are purely a type of logging and do not need to be cleared to restore any base functionality. Cross The Road Electronics Page 106 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 15. CAN bus Utilization/Error metrics The driver station provides various CAN bus metrics under the “lightning bolt” tab. Utilization is the percent of bus time that is in use relative to the total bandwidth available of the 1Mbps Dual Wire CAN bus. So, at 100% there is no idle bus time (no time between frames on the CAN bus). Demonstrated here is 70% bus use when controlling 16 Talon SRXs, along with 1 Pneumatics Control Module (PCM) and the Power Distribution Panel (PDP). The “Bus Off” counter increments every time the CAN Controller in the roboRIO enters “bus-off”, a state where the controller “backs off” transmitting until the CAN bus is deemed “healthy” again. A good method for watching it increment is to short/release the CAN bus High and Low lines together to watch it enter and leave “Bus Off” (counter increments per short). The “TX Full” counter tracks how often the buffer holding outgoing CAN frames (RIO to CAN device) drops a transmit request. This is another common symptom when the roboRIO no longer is connected to the CAN bus. The “Receive” and “Transmit” signal is shorthand for “Receive Error Counter” and “Transmit Error Counter”. These signals are straight from the CAN bus spec, and track the error instances occurred “on the wire” during reception and transmission respectively. These counts should always be zero. Attempt to short the CAN bus and you can confirm that the error counts rise sharply, then decrement back down to zero when the bus is restored (remove short, reconnect daisy chain). When starting out with the FRC control system and Talon SRXs, it is recommended to watch how these CAN metrics change when CAN bus is disconnected from the roboRIO and other CAN devices to learn what to expect when there is a harness or a termination resistor issue. Determining hardware related vs software related issues is key to being successful when using many CAN devices. Cross The Road Electronics Page 107 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 15.1. How many Talons can we use? Generally speaking, a maximum of 16 Motor controllers can be powered at once using a single PDP (sixteen breaker slots). However, FRC game rules should always be checked as it determines what it considered legal. This is typically the bottleneck for how many Talon SRXs can be used despite having CAN device ID space for 63 device IDs. Release software is always tested to support 16 Talon SRXs, 1 PCM, and 1 PDP with guaranteed control of each Talon at a rate of 10ms. However, this is not the limit. There is still additional bandwidth for more nodes. Additionally, if faster response time is desired, control frame periods can be decreased from the default 10ms, but keep a watchful eye of the CAN bus utilization to ensure reliable communication. Cross The Road Electronics Page 108 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 16. Troubleshooting Tips and Common Questions Just because a firmware issue has been resolved does not mean your out-of-the-box hardware doesn’t have old firmware. Immediately update your CAN devices to ensure your development time is not wasted chasing down an issue that has already been solved. 16.1. When I press the B/C CAL button, the brake LED does not change, neutral behavior does not change. This is the expected behavior if the robot application is overriding the brake mode. The B/C CAL button press does toggle the brake mode in persistent memory, however the LED and selected neutral behavior will honor the override sent over CAN bus. Check if the override API is being used in the robot application logic. 16.2. The robot is TeleOperated/Autonomous enabled, but the Talon SRX continues to blink orange (disabled). Most likely the device ID of that Talon is not being used. In other words, there is no Open Motor (LabVIEW) or constructed TalonSRX (C++/Java) with that device ID. This can be confirmed by doing a Self-Test in the roboRIO Web-based Configuration, and confirm the “DEVICE IS NOT ENABLED!” message at the top. 16.3. When I attach/power a particular Talon SRX to CAN bus, The LEDs on every Talon SRX occasionally blink red. Motor drive seems normal. If there is a single CAN error frame, you can expect all Talon SRXs on the bus to synchronously blink red. This is a great feature for detecting intermittent issues that normally would go unnoticed. If attaching a particular Talon brings this behavior out, most likely its device ID is common with another Talon already on the bus. This means two or more “common ID” Talon SRXs are periodically attempting to transmit using the same CAN arbitration ID, and are stepping on each other’s frame. This causes an intermittent error frame which then reveals itself when all Talon SRXs blink red. Check the roboRIO Web-based Configuration for the “There are X devices with this Device ID” explained in Section 2.2. Common ID Talons. 16.4. If I have a slave Talon SRX following a master Talon SRX, and the master Talon SRX is disconnected/unpowered, what will the slave Talon SRX do? The follower Talon SRX monitors for motor output updates from the master. If the slave Talon doesn’t see an update after 100ms, it will disable its drive. The LEDs will reflect robot-enable but with zero motor output (solid orange LEDs). Cross The Road Electronics Page 109 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 16.5. Is there any harm in creating a software Talon SRX for a device ID that’s not on the CAN bus? Will removing a Talon SRX from the CAN bus adversely affect other CAN devices? No! Attempting to communicate with a Talon SRX that is not present will not harm the communication with other CAN nodes. The communication strategy is very different than previously support CAN devices, and this use case was in mind when it was designed. Creating more Talon software objects (LabVIEW Motor Open, or C++/Java class instances) will increase the bus utilization since it means sending more frames, however this should not adversely affect robot behavior so long as the bus utilization is reasonable. However the resulted error messages in the DS may be a distraction so when permanently removing a Talon SRX from the CAN bus, it is helpful to synchronously remove it from the robot software. 16.6. Driver Station log says “Firm Vers could not be retrieved”. This is to be expected when constructing a TalonSRX with a device ID that is not present on CAN bus in C++/Java. This can also happen if the firmware predates to 2018 season. 16.7. Driver Station log says “Firmware too old” Follow the update procedure in section 2.3. 16.8. Why are there multiple ways to get the same sensor data? GetSensorCollection().GetEncoder() versus GetSelectedSensor()? The API that fetches latest values for Encoder (Quadrature) and Analog-In (potentiometer or a continuous analog sensor) reflect the pure decoded values sent over CAN bus (every 100ms). They are available all the time, regardless of which control mode is applied or whether the Cross The Road Electronics Page 110 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 sensor type has been selected for soft limits and closed-loop mode. These signals are ideal for instrumenting/logging/plotting sensor values to confirm the sensors are wired and functional. Additionally, they can be read at the same time (you can wire a potentiometer AND a quadrature encoder and get both position and velocities programmatically). Furthermore, the robot application could use this method to process sensor information directly. If the 100ms update rate is not sufficient, it can be overridden to a faster rate. For using soft limits and/or closed-loop modes, the robot application must select which sensor to use for position/velocity. Selecting a sensor will cause the Talon SRX to mux the appropriate sensor to the closed-loop logic, the soft limit logic, to the “Sensor Position” and “Sensor Velocity” signals (update 20ms). These signals can be signed using setSensorPhase()in order to keep the sensor in phase with the motor. Since “Sensor Position” and “Sensory Velocity” are updated faster (20ms) they can also be used for processing sensor information instead of overriding the frame rates. 16.9. All CAN devices have red LEDs. Recommended Preliminary checks for CAN bus. Some basic checks for the CAN harness are… Turn off robot, measure resistance between CANH and CANL. ~60 ohm is typical (120ohm at each end of the cable). ~120 ohm suggests that one end is missing termination resistor. Terminate the end using PDP jumper or explicit 120 ohm resistor. ~0 ohm suggests a short between CANH and CANL. INF or large resistances, missing termination resistor at each side. More information can be found in Talon SRX User’s Guide. Check the roboRIO’s Web-based Configuration to see if any devices appear, and ensure there are no Talon SRX’s sharing the same device ID. Cross The Road Electronics Page 111 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 16.10. Driver Station reports “MotorSafetyHelper.cpp: A timeout…”, motor drive no longer works. roboRIO Web-based Configuration says “No Drive” mode? Driver Station reports error -44075? This can happen after enabling Motor Safety Enable and not calling Set()/set() often enough to meet the expiration timeout. Another symptom of this is seeing “No Drive” has the control mode in the Self-Test. When the safety timeout expires in LabVIEW, the error message will be different… See section 19 for more information. 16.11. Motor drive stutters, misbehaves? Intermittent enable/disable? Check the CAN Utilization to ensure it’s not near 100%. An abnormally high percent may be a symptom of “common ID” Talons. This also can occur when selecting custom frame rates that are too fast. Ensure robot application calls Set() on each Talon at least once per loop. Avoid strategies that attempt to write the Talon set-output “only when it changes”. There is no cost to updating the set-output of the Talon SRX using the robot API, and often such strategies trip the motor-safety features (section 19). If using LabVIEW avoid using tunnels/shift-registers to only call when the input parameter has changed. Check the roboRIO’s Web-based Configuration to confirm all expected Talons are populated and are enabled per the Self-Test. Check the “Under Vbat” sticky flag in the Self-Test. This will rule out power/voltage related issues. Cross The Road Electronics Page 112 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 Check the “Reset During Enable” sticky flag in the Self-Test. This will rule out power/voltage/ESD-or-reset related issues. If the issues occur only during rapid changes in direction and magnitude, the power cables/crimps may not be efficient enough to deliver power during the stall-period when a loaded motor changes direction. This can be confirmed if increasing the voltage ramp rate removes/fixes this symptom. Be sure to check the Driver Station Logs for packet loss since that can cause intermittent robot disables. If the Driver Station has 3rd party software that uses network communication, or if the Driver Station When using the DAP-1522 (or similar radio) be sure to use latest stable firmware. For example, rev-A DAP1522s (with production ship firmware) will not reliably enable the robot. Additionally, consult FRC rules and documentation for which hardware rev is legal for competition and how to properly setup the radio. 16.12. What to expect when devices are disconnected in roboRIO’s Webbased Configuration. Failed Self-Test? Depending what version of software is released, a discovered Talon will display loss of connection one of two ways. The Firmware Version may report (Device is not responding). Alternatively, the tree element will gray out to indicate loss of communication…. Cross The Road Electronics Page 113 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 The roboRIO internals rechecks the CAN bus once every five seconds so when connecting/disconnecting Talons to/from the bus, be sure to wait at least five seconds and refresh the webpage to detect changes in connection state. Doing a Self-Test when the Talon SRX is not present on the CAN bus will report a red ‘X’ in the top left portion of the Self-Test report. Depending on what robot controller image is release you may see the stale values of all signals when the red “X” is present. 16.13. How do I get the raw ADC value (or voltage) on the Analog Input pin? The bottom ten bits of Analog-In Position is equal to the converted ADC value. The range of [0, 1023] scales to [0V, 3.3V]. Additionally, if “Analog Potentiometer” is selected as the Feedback Device, the signal “Sensor Position” will exactly equal the bottom ten bits of Analog-In Position. 16.14. Recommendation for using relative sensors. When using relative sensors for closed-loop control, it’s always good practice to design in a way to re-zero your robot. Regardless of how/where relative sensors are connected (robot controller IO, Talon SRX, etc…), there is always the potential for sensors to “walk” or “drift” due to… -Mechanical slip issues -Skipped gear teeth in chain -Intermittent electrical connections (harness gets damaged in middle of a match) -Power cycle robot when armatures are not in their “home” position. -Remote resets of robot controller when armatures are not in their “home” position. A common solution to this is to design a way in the gamepad logic to force your robot into a “manual mode” where the driver/arm operator can manually servo motors to a home position and press a button (or button combination) to re-zero (or set to the “home” position values) all involved sensors. Cross The Road Electronics Page 114 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 Teams that do this already can continue to use this method with Talon SRX since there is are set functions to modify “Sensor Position”. 16.15. Does anything get reset or lost after firmware updates? The transition from v4_legacy Tool suite to Phoenix will default the configuration parameters. This occurs when firmware is updated to 3.X firmware from 2.X firmware. The device ID is not affected in this circumstance. Notwithstanding the above, the device ID, limit switch startup settings, brake startup settings, Motor Control Profile Parameters, and sticky flags are generally unaffected by the act of fieldupgrading. If a particular firmware release has a “back-breaking” change, it will be explicitly documented (see paragraph above). 16.16. Analog Position seems to be stuck around ~100 units? When the analog input is left unconnected, it will hover around 100 units. If an analog sensor has been wired, most likely it’s connected to the wrong pin. Recheck wiring against the Talon SRX User’s Guide. Cross The Road Electronics Page 115 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 16.17. Limit switch behavior doesn’t match expected settings. First check the Startup Settings in the roboRIO Web-based Configuration to determine that the “Normally Open”/ “Normally Closed” settings are correct. They can be changed programmatically and in the web page so it’s worth confirming. Here we see both directions use NO limit switches... Then press the “Self-Test” button to check… -The open/closed state of the limit switch input pin on the Talon SRX. -If enable/disable state of the limit-switch logic is overridden programmatically. -Check the fault and sticky faults to see if limit fault conditions are detected. In this example the Fwd. Limit Switch fault is not set despite the Fwd. Limit Switch being closed. This is because the Limit Switch logic forced OFF, because the feature is disable programmatically. As a result closing the forward limit switch will not disable motor drive. Cross The Road Electronics Page 116 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 16.18. How fast can I control just ONE Talon SRX? The fastest control frame rate that can be specified is 1ms. That means that the average period at which the output/set point can be updates is 1ms. This will increase bus utilization by approximately 15%, which is acceptable if the number of Talon SRXs is few. Always check the CAN bus performance metrics in the Driver Station when doing this. 16.19. Expected symptoms when there is excessive signal reflection. If the CAN bus harness has excessive signal reflection due to improper wiring or missing termination resistors, the following symptoms may be seen… -Driver Station will show Rx and Tx CAN errors intermittently (see Section 15), particularly with higher bus utilization. -CAN bus utilization will be higher than normal. This is because CAN devices transmit error frames in response to detecting improper frames. This is helpful if you are in the habit of checking your bus utilization every once in a while and knowing what is typical for your robot. See Section 15 for more details. -The LED of every CAN device on the bus will blink red intermittently during normal use (the same symptom as Section 16.4). Both common-ID Talons and excessive signal reflection can cause error frames to appear, which trigger every CTRE CAN device to intermittently blink red during normal use. One reliable way to observe this LED behavior is to deliberately leave a couple common-ID Talon SRXs on your CAN Bus. Then, power up your robot and leave it disabled. All Talon SRXs will rail-road orange (healthy CAN bus and disabled). Now watch any particular Talon SRX for a minute or so. It will blink red intermittently as the two (or more) common-ID Talon SRXs inevitably disrupt each other’s frame transmission. -Measured DC resistance between CANH and CANL (when robot is unpowered) should be approximately 60 Ω. If this is not the case then recheck the CAN wiring and termination resistors (see Talon SRX User’s Guide). 16.20. LabVIEW application reads incorrect Sensor Position. Sensor Position jumps to zero or is missing counts. This is a common symptom if the LabVIEW application is calling the Motor Enable VI periodically. This VI has the side-effect of modifying the Sensor Position every time it’s invoked. Additionally, wiring the current Sensor Position to this signal also will prevent proper signal decoding since the RIO will send stale positions to the Talon SRX, overwriting valid signal changes in the Talon. See Section 13.1.1 for more information. Additionally, check that the correct Feedback Device is selected (Section 7). Remember that the Feedback Device Select is sent only when the robot is enabled. Since there is only one control frame that contains all control signals, this ensures Talon has the correct sensor selected when Talon is enabled (Section 20.6). Cross The Road Electronics Page 117 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 16.21. CAN devices do not appear in the roboRIO Web-based config. Normally devices appear under the “CAN Interface” tree node… …however if the roboRIO is not correctly wired to the CAN Bus, then the tree node will have no elements listed underneath… …in which case double-check the CAN bus wiring and termination strategy. See the Talon SRX User’s Guide for more information on wiring Talon SRXs. Also see the “FRC Screen steps” online documentation for more information on wiring the other CAN devices in the control system. Additionally, check the status LEDs of the CAN devices. Generally, red LED states reflect an unhealthy CAN connection, which will help diagnose wiring issues. 16.22. When I make a change to a setting in the roboRIO Web-based configuration and immediately flash firmware into the Talon, the setting does not stick? When any of the Motor Control Profile (MCP) settings are changed, a certain amount of time must pass before the settings are committed to persistent storage (if a previous change hadn’t been made recently). See section 11.1 for an explanation of how the wear-leveling works. This only occurs when re-flashing the firmware immediately after two subsequent setting changes where the two changes are also done immediately after each other. Cross The Road Electronics Page 118 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 16.23. My mechanism has multiple Talon SRXs and one sensor. Can I still use the closed-loop/motion-profile modes? See Section 7.6 for recommended procedure. 16.24. My Closed-Loop is not working? Now what? The common observations when setting up a closed-loop initially is The motor output saturates immediately when enabled. The motor output is neutral despite sensor not being near target position/velocity. Oscillation or over-shooting the target. Motor output is not enough to reach target. When debugging a closed-loop mechanism, follow the procedure in order. 16.24.1. Make sure Talon has latest firmware. See Section 2.3 for instructions. See Section 22 for firmware release notes. 16.24.2. Confirm sensor is in phase with motor. See Section 7.4 for instructions on how to check if sensor and motor are in phase. This is often the culprit if the closed-loop “runs away” or reaches maximum motor output immediately. 16.24.3. Confirm Slave/Follower Talons are driving If there are slave Talon SRXs, ensure their LED output matches the master Talon. If a slave Talon is not driving due to improper software setup or incorrect wiring, a master Talon may back-drive the slave Talon(s), causing excessive current-draw and/or breaker trips. To test that the Slave Talons are functioning, unplug all motors and manually drive each motor one at a time. If the follower is driving in the wrong direction, it may need to be inverted using the API in Section 7.4. See Section 7.6 for complete instructions on testing Slave/Follower Talons setup. 16.24.4. Drive (Master) Talon manually Drive the Talon (or if using slave Talons, drive the master Talon) using PercentOutput mode. Cover the full range of speed to ensure mechanical system is functioning as expected. Measure the sensor positions at the critical points to ensure sensor is functioning. This also aids in confirming what the target sensor positions should be if the goal is to use Position Closed-Loop. See Section 17 to lookup sensor resolution of each sensor type. 16.24.5. Re-enable Closed-Loop Zero all four gains (F, P, I, D) and place Talon SRX into Closed-Loop mode. Use the SelfTest to ensure Talon is enabled and in the appropriate mode (Section 2.4). Cross The Road Electronics Page 119 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 If Mode is “No Drive”, see Section 16.12. If Mode is the wrong one, inspect robot-code to see why the wrong mode is selected. Applied motor output will be 0% since the gains are all zeroed. Ensure the Closed-Loop Peak Outputs are correct. “-100%, 100%” represent the full range (no restriction) of motor-output (default). Ensure the Closed-Loop Nominal Outputs are correct. “0, 0” represent no restriction on the “smallest” nonzero motor-output of the Closed-Loop (default). Ensure that Allowable Closed Loop Error is correct. A value of zero represent motor output is allowed anytime Closed Loop Error is nonzero (default). 16.24.6. Start with a simple gain set The next step depends on whether you are using Position or Velocity Closed-Loop. 16.24.6.1. Start with a simple gain set – Position Closed-Loop If using Position Closed-Loop, look at the Closed-Loop Error. This is the error between the target and currently-sampled position. It will be measured in native sensor units. This value is multiplied by the P gain and sent to the motor output. For example, if the Closed Loop error is 4096 and the P gain is 0.10, then… 4096 X 0.10 409 or 39.98% (409/1023) motor output. An error of 4096 represent an error of one-full rotation when using the CTRE Magnetic Encoder). So with a P gain of 0.10, the Closed-Loop output will be 39.98% when sensor is off by one rotation. Choose a P gain so that the worst case error yields a small motor-output. Set the P gain and re-enable the Closed-Loop. The motor-output will be “soft” meaning the movement will likely fail to reach the final target (or come up “short”). Double the P gain accordingly until the response is sharp without major overshoot. If the P gain is too large, the mechanism will oscillate about the target position. At this point, the Closed-Loop will have the basic ability to servo to a target position. Additionally, tune the remaining Closed Loop Parameters (ramping, I, D, Peak/Nominal Output, etc.) to dial in the acceleration and near-target response of the closed-loop. Cross The Road Electronics Page 120 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 16.24.6.2. Start with a simple gain set – Velocity Closed-Loop The first gain to set is the F gain. See Section 12.6 for LabVIEW instruction/examples on how this is done. See Section 12.4 for Java instruction/examples (C++ users should also review this section as the procedure is identical). With just F gain, the motor’s output should follow the requested target velocity reasonably. At this point you can begin dialing in P gain so that the closed-loop performs error correction. 16.24.7. Confirm gains are set If the motion output is still neutral, use the roboRIO Web based configuration page to confirm that gains are actually nonzero, and that the correct slot is selected. Here P gain of ‘2’ is in Slot 0. Now perform the Self-Test to confirm which Profile Slot is selected. In this example we would like to use slot ‘0’. 16.25. Where can I find application examples? Example projects for Talon SRX can also be found in the CTR GitHub account. https://github.com/CrossTheRoadElec/Phoenix-Examples-LabVIEW https://github.com/CrossTheRoadElec/Phoenix-Examples-Languages Cross The Road Electronics Page 121 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 16.26. Can RobotDrive be used with Talon SRXs? What if there are six Talons? The default RobotDrive object in LabVIEW/C++/Java already supports two-Talon and four-Talon drivetrains. Simply create the WPI_TalonSRX objects and pass them into the RobotDrive example. For six drive Talons, the four-motor examples for Robot Drive can be used with four WPI_TalonSRX objects, then create the final two Talons and set them to slave/follower mode. The JAVA_Six_CANTalon_ArcadeDrive example can be downloaded at… https://github.com/CrossTheRoadElec/Phoenix-Examples-Languages The screenshot below can be used as a reference. Although the example is in Java, the strategy can be used in all three FRC languages. Although the example uses arcadeDrive, the robot application could use tankDrive as well. public class Robot extends IterativeRobot { /* talons for arcade drive */ WPI_TalonSRX _frontLeftMotor = new WPI_TalonSRX(11); /* device IDs here (1 of 2) */ WPI_TalonSRX _frontRightMotor = new WPI_TalonSRX(14); /* extra talons for six motor drives */ WPI_VictorSPX _leftSlave1 = new WPI_VictorSPX(13); WPI_VictorSPX _rightSlave1 = new WPI_VictorSPX(15); WPI_VictorSPX _leftSlave2 = new WPI_VictorSPX(16); WPI_VictorSPX _rightSlave2 = new WPI_VictorSPX(17); final int kTimeoutMs = 10; DifferentialDrive _drive = new DifferentialDrive(_frontLeftMotor, _frontRightMotor); Joystick _joy = new Joystick(0); /** * This function is run when the robot is first started up and should be * used for any initialization code. */ public void robotInit() { /* take our extra talons and just have them follow the Talons updated in arcadeDrive */ _leftSlave1.follow(_frontLeftMotor); _leftSlave2.follow(_frontLeftMotor); _rightSlave1.follow(_frontRightMotor); _rightSlave2.follow(_frontRightMotor); _frontLeftMotor.configSelectedFeedbackSensor(FeedbackDevice.QuadEncoder, 0, kTimeoutMs); _frontRightMotor.configSelectedFeedbackSensor(FeedbackDevice.QuadEncoder, 0, kTimeoutMs); /* do this first */ /*flip values until sensor is positive with positive motor output (green LEDs) */ _frontLeftMotor.setSensorPhase(false); _frontRightMotor.setSensorPhase(true); /* do this second */ boolean invertLeft = false; boolean invertRight = false; _frontLeftMotor.setInverted(invertLeft); _frontLeftMotor.setInverted(invertLeft); _frontLeftMotor.setInverted(invertLeft); _frontRightMotor.setInverted(invertRight); _frontRightMotor.setInverted(invertRight); _frontRightMotor.setInverted(invertRight); Cross The Road Electronics Page 122 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 } /** * This function is called periodically during operator control */ public void teleopPeriodic() { double forward = _joy.getY(); // logitech gampad left X, positive is forward double turn = _joy.getZ(); //logitech gampad right X, positive means turn right _drive.arcadeDrive(forward, turn); } } 16.27. How fast does the closed-loop run? Talon SRX updates the motor output every 1ms by recalculating the PIDF output. Additionally, when using the motion magic control mode, the target position and target velocity is recalculated every 10ms to honor the user’s specified acceleration and cruise-velocity. 16.28. Driver Station log reports: The transmission queue is full. Wait until frames in the queue have been sent and try again. This error means the roboRIO is sending more CAN bus frames than can be physically sent. Usually because of a cable disconnect. Check your wiring for opportunities for CAN bus to disconnect. Check for changes in the CAN error counts (Section 15) to confirm cable integrity. Section 16.24 has additional cable troubleshooting tips. Cross The Road Electronics Page 123 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 17. Units and Term Definitions Listed below are the native units and term definitions for the signals inside the motor controller. 17.1. Signal Definitions and Sensor Units 17.1.1. (Quadrature) Encoder Position When measuring the position of a Quadrature Encoder, the position is measured in 4X encoder edges. For example, if a US Digital Encoder with a 360 cycles per revolution (CPR) will count 1440 units per rotation when read using “Encoder Position” or “Sensor Position”. The velocity units of a Quadrature Encoder is the change in Encoder Position per TvelMea (TvelMeas=0.1sec). For example, if a US Digital Encoder (CPR=360) spins at 20 rotations per second, this will result in a velocity of 2880 (28800 position units per second). 17.1.2. Analog (Encoder/Potentiometer) When measuring the position of a 3.3V Analog Potentiometer, the position is measured as a 10 bit ADC value. A value of 1023 corresponds to 3.3V. A value of 0 corresponds to 0.0V. The velocity units of a 3.3V Analog Potentiometer is the change in Analog Position per TvelMea (TvelMeas=0.1sec). For example if an Analog Potentiometer transitions from 0V to 3.3V (1023 units) in one second, the Analog Velocity will be 102. Like 3.3V Analog Potentiometers, the 10 bit ADC is used to scale [0 V, 3.3 V] => [0, 1023]. However when the Analog Encoder “wraps around” from 1023 to 0, the Analog Position will continue to 1024. In other words, the sensor is treated as “continuous”. The velocity units of a 3.3V Analog Encoder is the change in Analog Position per 100ms (TvelMeas=0.1sec). For example if an Analog Encoder transitions from 0V to 3.3V (1023 units) in one second, the Analog Velocity will be 102. 17.1.3. Motor output The Talon SRX uses 10bit resolution for the output duty cycle. This means a -1023 represents full reverse, +1023 represents full forward, and 0 represents neutral. The programming API made available in LabVIEW and C++/Java performs the scaling into percent, so the duty cycle resolution is not necessary for programming purposes. However when evaluating PIDF gain values, it is helpful to understand how the calculated output of the closed-loop is interpreted. Cross The Road Electronics Page 124 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 17.1.4. (Open-Loop) Ramp The Talon SRX natively represents Open-Loop Ramp as the change in output per TRampRate (TRampRate=10ms). Motor output is represented as a 10bit signed value (1023 is full forward, 1023 is full reverse). For example, if the robot application requires motor drive ramping from 0% to 100% to take one second of ramping, the result Ramp Rate would be ( [1023 – 0] / 1000ms X TRampRate) or 10 units. The programming API made available in LabVIEW and C++/Java performs the scaling into appropriate units (percent-output and time). 17.1.5. (Closed-Loop) Ramp The Talon SRX natively represents Closed-Loop Ramp as the change in output per TRampRate (TRampRate=10ms). Motor output is represented as a 10bit signed value (1023 is full forward, 1023 is full reverse). For example, if the robot application requires motor drive ramping from 0% to 100% to take one second of ramping, the result Ramp Rate would be ( [1023 – 0] / 1000ms X TRampRate) or 10 units. The programming API made available in LabVIEW and C++/Java performs the scaling into appropriate units (percent-output and time). 17.1.6. Integral Zone (I Zone) The motor control profile contains Integral Zone (I Zone), which (when nonzero), is the maximum error where Integral Accumulation will occur during a closed-loop Mode. If the Closed-loop error is outside of the I Zone, “I Accum” is automatically cleared. This can prevent total instability due to integral windup, particularly when tweaking gains. The units are in the same units as the selected feedback device (Quadrature Encoder, Analog Potentiometer, Analog Encoder, and EncRise). 17.1.7. Integral Accumulator (I Accum) The accumulated sum of Closed-Loop Error. It is accumulated in line with Closed-Loop math every 1ms. 17.1.8. Motor Invert Boolean signal for reversing the h-bridge output. This signal does not impact Talon LEDs in order to ensure LEDs are in phase with limit switch wiring and soft-limit configuration. Changing the motor invert does not impact Sensor Phase. This is because the firmware will compensate for the motor inversion internally. 17.1.9. Sensor Phase Boolean signal for reversing the sensor phase. Generally, this will multiply the sensor value by 1 when set to true. 17.1.10. Closed-Loop Error Calculated as the difference between target set point and the actual Sensor Position/Velocity. Cross The Road Electronics Page 125 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 The units are matched to Analog-In or Encoder depending on which “Feedback Device” and control mode (position vs. speed) is selected. 17.1.11. Closed-Loop gains P gain is specified in motor output unit per error unit. For example, a value of 102 is ~9.97% (which is 102/1023) motor output per 1 unit of Closed-Loop Error. I gain is specified in motor output unit per integrated error. For example, a value of 10 equates to ~0.97% for each accumulated error (Integral Accumulator). Integral accumulation is done every 1ms. D gain is specified in motor output unit per derivative error. For example, a value of 102 equates to ~9.97% (which is 102/1023) per change of Sensor Position/Velocity unit per 1ms. F gain is multiplied directly by the set point passed into the programming API made available in LabVIEW and C++/Java. This allows the robot to feed-forward using the target set-point. 17.2. Sensor Resolutions Position units are in the natural units of the sensor. This ensures the best resolution possible when performing closed-loops in firmware. Velocity is measured in sensor units per 100ms. This ensures sufficient resolution regardless of the sensing strategy. For example, when using the CTRE Magnetic Encoder, 1u velocity represents 1/4096 of a rotation every 100ms. Generally, you can multiply the velocity units by 600/UnitsPerRotation to obtain RPM. Tachometer velocity measurement is unique in that it measures time directly. Thus, the reported velocity is calculated where 1024 represents a full "rotation". This means that a velocity measurement of 1 represents 1/1024 of a rotation every 100ms. Cross The Road Electronics Page 126 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 18. How is the closed-loop implemented? The closed-loop logic is the same regardless of which feedback sensor or closed-loop mode is selected. The verbatim implementation in the Talon firmware is displayed below. This includes… - The logic for PIDF style closed-loop. - Inverting the output of the closed-loop if enabled in API. - Capping the output to positive values only IF using a single direction feedback sensor. Note: The PID_Mux_Unsigned and PID_Mux_Sign routines are merely multiply functions. /** * 1ms process for PIDF closed-loop. * @param pid ptr to pid object * @param pos signed integral position (or velocity when in velocity mode). * The target pos/velocity is ramped into the target member from caller's 'in'. * If the CloseLoopRamp in the selected Motor Controller Profile is zero then * there is no ramping applied. (throttle units per ms) * PIDF is traditional, unsigned coefficients for P,i,D, signed for F. * Target pos/velocity is feed forward. * * Izone gives the abilty to autoclear the integral sum if error is wound up. * @param revMotDuringCloseLoopEn nonzero to reverse PID output direction. * @param oneDirOnly when using positive only sensor, keep the closed-loop from outputing negative throttle. */ void PID_Calc1Ms(pid_t * pid, int32_t pos,uint8_t revMotDuringCloseLoopEn, uint8_t oneDirOnly) { /* grab selected slot */ MotorControlProfile_t * slot = MotControlProf_GetSlot(); /* calc error : err = target - pos*/ int32_t err = pid->target - pos; pid->err = err; /*abs error */ int32_t absErr = err; if(err < 0) absErr = -absErr; /* integrate error */ if(0 == pid->notFirst){ /* first pass since reset/init */ pid->iAccum = 0; /* also tare the before ramp throt */ pid->out = BDC_GetThrot(); /* the save the current ramp */ }else if((!slot->IZone) || (absErr < slot->IZone) ){ /* izone is not used OR absErr is within iZone */ pid->iAccum += err; }else{ pid->iAccum = 0; } /* dErr/dt */ if(pid->notFirst){ /* calc dErr */ pid->dErr = (err - pid->prevErr); }else{ /* clear dErr */ pid->dErr = 0; } /* P gain X the distance away from where we want */ pid->outBeforRmp = PID_Mux_Unsigned(err, slot->P); if(pid->iAccum && slot->I){ /* our accumulated error times I gain. If you want the robot to creep up then pass a nonzero Igain */ pid->outBeforRmp += PID_Mux_Unsigned(pid->iAccum, slot->I); } /* derivative gain, if you want to react to sharp changes in error (smooth things out). */ pid->outBeforRmp += PID_Mux_Unsigned(pid->dErr, slot->D); /* feedforward on the set point */ pid->outBeforRmp += PID_Mux_Signed(pid->target, slot->F); /* arm for next pass */ { pid->prevErr = err; /* save the prev error for D */ pid->notFirst = 1; /* already serviced first pass */ } /* if we are using one-direction sensor, only allow throttle in one dir. If it's the wrong direction, use revMotDuringCloseLoopEn to flip it */ if(oneDirOnly){ Cross The Road Electronics Page 127 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 if(pid->outBeforRmp < 0) pid->outBeforRmp = 0; } /* honor the direction flip from control */ if(revMotDuringCloseLoopEn) pid->outBeforRmp = -pid->outBeforRmp; /* honor closelooprampratem, ramp out towards outBeforRmp */ if(0 != slot->CloseLoopRampRate){ if(pid->outBeforRmp >= pid->out){ /* we want to increase our throt */ int32_t deltaUp = pid->outBeforRmp - pid->out; if(deltaUp > slot->CloseLoopRampRate) deltaUp = slot->CloseLoopRampRate; pid->out += deltaUp; }else{ /* we want to decrease our throt */ int32_t deltaDn = pid->out - pid->outBeforRmp; if(deltaDn > slot->CloseLoopRampRate) deltaDn = slot->CloseLoopRampRate; pid->out -= deltaDn; } }else{ pid->out = pid->outBeforRmp; } } Cross The Road Electronics Page 128 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 19. Motor Safety Helper The Motor Safety feature works in a similar manner as the other motor controllers. The goal is to set an expiration time to a given motor controller, such that, if the Set()/set() routine is not called within the expiration time, the motor controller will disable. Additionally, the DS will report the error and the roboRIO Web-based Configuration Self-Test will report Disabled as the mode. Thus, the set routine must be called periodically for sustained motor drive when motor safety is enabled. Be sure to use WPI_TalonSRX and WPI_VictorSPX classes to leverage motor-safety. One example where this feature is useful is when laying breakpoints with the debugger while the robot is enabled and moving. Ideally when a breakpoint lands, its safest to disable motor drive while the developer performs source-level debugging. 19.1. Best practices Be sure to test that the time between enabling Motor Safety features, and the first Set()/set() call is small enough to not risk accidently timing out. Calling Set()/set() immediately after enabling the feature can be used to ensure transitioning into the enabled modes doesn’t intermittently cause a timeout. Even if tripping the motor-safety expiration time is not an expected condition, it’s best to reenable the motors somewhere in the source so that the timeouts can be reset easily, for example in AutonInit()/TeleopInit(). That way normal robot functionality can be safely resumed after a motor controller expires (usually during source-level debugging). Additionally, if source-level debugging is not required (for example during a competition or if logging-style debugging is preferred) the motor-safety enable can be turned off. Cross The Road Electronics Page 129 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 19.2. C++ example SetSafetyEnabled() can be used to turn on this feature. SetExpiration() can be used to set the expiration time. The default expiration time is typically 100ms. 19.3. Java example setSafetyEnabled() can be used to turn on this feature. setExpiration() can be used to set the expiration time. The default expiration time is typically 100ms. 19.4. LabVIEW Example The Motor SAFETY CONFIG VI can be used to turn on this feature. Select “Enable” for the mode and specify the timeout in seconds. 19.5. RobotDrive The examples in this section refer to the WPI_TalonSRX objects directly. However higher level class types such as RobotDrive can have their own motor safety objects as well. Although WPI_TalonSRX safety features default off, the higher-level drive objects tend to default safety enable to on. If you are still witnessing disabled motor drive behavior and Motor Safety Driver Station Log Messages (see Section 16.14) then you may need to call setSafetyEnabled(false) (or similar routines/VI) on RobotDrive objects as well. Keep in mind that disabling safety enable means that motor drive can continue if a source-level breakpoint halts program flow. Take the necessary precautions to debug the robot safely or alternatively only enable motor safety features when performing source level debugging. Cross The Road Electronics Page 130 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 20. Going deeper - How does the framing work? The Talon periodically transmits four status frames with sensor data at the given periods. This ensures that certain signals are always available with a deterministic update rate. This also keeps bus utilization stable. Similarly, the control frame sent to the Talon SRX is periodic and contains almost all the information necessary for all control modes. The rest of the necessary parameters are are persistent and modified via configuration function/VIs, which are typically configured during robot boot up. Although the frame rates are default to ensure stable CAN bandwidth, there is API to override the frame rates for performance reasons. If this is done, be sure to check the CAN performance metrics to ensure custom settings don’t exceed the available CAN bandwidth, see “CAN bus Utilization and Performance metrics”. Changing the frame periods are not persistent. This is deliberate to ensure you can power cycle a CTRE CAN Device and restore normal communication. Developers can use the “has reset” API to check if a device has been rebooted, and therefore restore custom frame periods. 20.1. General Status 1 The General Status frame has a default period of 10ms, and provides… -Motor Output: The current 10bit motor output duty cycle (-1023 full reverse to +1023 full forward). -Forward Limit Switch Pin State -Reverse Limit Switch Pin State -Fault bits -Applied Control Mode -Soft limit and limit switch overrides -Invert/Brake selections … These signals are accessible in the various get functions in the programming API. 20.2. Feedback0 Status 2 The Feedback0 Status 2 frame has a default period of 20ms, and provides… -Sensor Position: Position of the selected sensor for PID Loop 0 -Sensor Velocity: Velocity of the selected sensor for PID Loop 0 -Motor Current -Sticky Faults -Motor Control Profile Select … These signals are accessible in the various get functions in the programming API. 20.3. Quadrature Encoder Status 3 The Quadrature Encoder Status frame has a default period of 160ms. -Encoder Position: Position of the quadrature sensor -Encoder Velocity: Velocity of the selected sensor Cross The Road Electronics Page 131 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 -Number of rising edges counted on the Index Pin. -Quad A pin state. -Quad B pin state. -Quad Index pin state. … These signals are accessible in the various get functions in the programming API. The quadrature decoder is always engaged, whether the feedback device is selected or not, and whether a quadrature encoder is actually wired or not. This means that the Quadrature Encoder signals are always available in programming API regardless of how the Talon is used. The default update rate is sufficient for logging, instrumentation and debugging. If a faster update rate is required the robot application can select the appropriate sensor and leverage the Sensor Position and Sensor Velocity. 20.4. Analog Input / Temperature / Battery Voltage Status 4 The Analog/Temp/BattV status frame has a default period of 160ms. -Analog Position: Position of the selected sensor -Analog Velocity: Velocity of the selected sensor -Temperature -Battery Voltage -Selected feedback sensor for PIDLoop 0. … These signals are accessible in the various get functions in the programming API. The Analog to Digital Convertor is always engaged, whether the feedback device is selected or not, and whether an analog sensor is wired or not. This means that the Analog In signals are always available in programming API regardless of how the Talon is used. The default update rate is sufficient for logging, instrumentation and debugging. If a faster update rate is required, the robot application can select the appropriate sensor and leverage the Sensor Position and Sensor Velocity. 20.5. Pulse Width Status 8 The status frame has a default period of 160ms. -Period and pulse width capture on the Talon Idx pin. -Velocity (of a PulseWidthEncoded sensor such as CTRE Mag Encoder). -Position (of a PulseWidthEncoded sensor such as CTRE Mag Encoder). … These signals are accessible in the various get functions in the programming API. 20.6. Targets Status 10 (Motion Profile and Motion Magic) The status frame has a default period of 160ms. -Target Position, velocity, and heading for the active trajectory point. 20.7. PIDF0 Status 13 The status frame has a default period of 160ms. -Closed-loop error of PIDLoop 0. -Integral Accumulator of PIDLoop 0. -Derivative term of PIDLoop 0. Cross The Road Electronics Page 132 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 20.8. Modifying Status Frame Period The frame rates of these signals may be modifiable through programming API. 20.8.1. C++ The SetStatusFramePeriod() function can be used to modify the frame rate period of a particular Status Frame. /* change frame period to 7 ms */ talon.SetStatusFramePeriod(StatusFrameEnhanced::Status_10_MotionMagic, 7, 0); Use StatusFrameEnhanced for products that have a Feedback Gadgeteer Port (such as Talon SRX). VictorSPX objects must use StatusFrame. 20.8.2. Java The setStatusFramePeriod() function can be used to modify the frame rate period of a particular Status Frame. /* change frame period to 7 ms */ talon.setStatusFramePeriod(StatusFrameEnhanced.Status_10_MotionMagic, 7, 0); Use StatusFrameEnhanced for products that have a Feedback Gadgeteer Port (such as Talon SRX). VictorSPX objects must use StatusFrame. 20.8.3. LabVIEW The VI can be used to adjust the period of a status frame. Cross The Road Electronics Page 133 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 20.9. Control Frame (Control 3) The Talon is primarily controlled by one periodic control frame. The default period of this frame is 10ms. The control frame provides the Talon… -which Motor Control Profile Slot to use. -which control mode (position, velocity, duty cycle, slave mode) -if the feedback sensor should be reversed -if the closed-loop output should be reversed -the target/set point or duty cycle or which Talon to follow -the (voltage) ramp rate -brake neutral mode override if specified -limit switch overrides if specified … These signals are accessible in the various set functions in the programming API. 20.10. Modifying the Control Frame Period Advanced users can modify the Control Frame Rate to increase the update rate of the control parameters, or decrease to reduce total bus bandwidth. 20.10.1. Modifying the Control Frame Rate – C++ Note there is no timeoutMs, as this setting is applied to the roboRIO. /* change period to 7 ms */ talon.SetControlFramePeriod(ControlFrame::Control_3_General, 7); 20.10.2. Modifying the Control Frame Rate – Java Note there is no timeoutMs, as this setting is applied to the roboRIO. /* change period to 7 ms */ talon.setControlFramePeriod(ControlFrame.Control_3_General, 7); 20.10.3. Modifying the Control Frame Rate – LabVIEW Cross The Road Electronics Page 134 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 21. Functional Limitations Functional Limitations describe behavior that deviates than what is documented. Feature additions and improvements are always possible thanks to the field-upgrade features of the Talon SRX. Just because a firmware issue has been resolved does not mean your out-of-the-box hardware doesn’t have old firmware. Immediately update your CAN devices to ensure your development time is not wasted chasing down an issue that has already been solved. 21.1. roboRIO power up: User should manually refresh the web-based configuration after rebooting roboRIO. It is recommended to manually refresh the web browser if the roboRIO has been reset or power cycled. This ensures that the web browser and roboRIO are synchronized well. Otherwise device icons may not match the device type in the web-based config. 21.2. Phoenix 5.1.3.1: Motion profile disabled in 2018 kickoff firmware. Talon SRX/ Victor SPX motion-profile mode is not available in the kickoff release. This is due to the modifications done to support Pigeon IMU integration. This will be remedied in a future release. [Resolved in Phoenix 5.2.1.1] 21.3. Two sets of Param declarations for auto-clear position parameters. The paramEnum list includes two sets of enumerated values… eClearPositionOnLimitF = 320, eClearPositionOnLimitR = 321, eClearPositionOnQuadIdx = 322, eClearPositionOnIdx = 100, eClearPosOnLimitF = 144, eClearPosOnLimitR = 145, …both sets are supported in Talon SRX firmware. 21.4. getClosedLoopTarget() return milliamperes. getClosedLoopTarget reports in units of milliamperes when in current closed-loop mode. Divide the returned value by 1000 to obtain amperes. Cross The Road Electronics Page 135 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 21.5. Auto-clear position feature on Quadrature Idx only works for rising edges. eQuadIdxPolarity signal is not supported in current firmware. If falling edge is necessary, use the Limit Forward or Limit Reverse auto-clear features. Cross The Road Electronics Page 136 1/13/2018 217-8080 TALON SRX / Victor SPX Software Reference Manual 1/13/2018 22. CRF Firmware Version Information CRF Version Date Description 3.3 (FRC) Jan 2018 Motion profile feature re-enabled for Talon SRX. 3.1 (FRC) Jan 2018 Initial release for Victor SPX and Talon SRX for 2018. 23. Document Revision Information Rev Date Description 2.0 18-Jan-2018 -Initial release that is Phoenix compliant. Cross The Road Electronics Page 137 1/13/2018
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